Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 301: Home of Antifa Leadership

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https://twitter.com/TheRock/status/1268396403711082496?s=19

Rock 2020.

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Hes running
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_FE78X-qdY

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who's going to become president first, rock or kanye

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My respect for Hasan just keeps going up.

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Mr Lasastryke posted...

who's going to become president first, rock or kanye

it would have to be rock. I think the percentage of people who have any faith in Kanyes mental state is very low.
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UshiromiyaEva posted...

I don't know who that is.

NFL QB for the New Orleans Saints. ONe of the best/most known/popular players in the league.

He was asked about the possibility of players kneeling during the anthem again this season given everything that has happened and he said he would never agree with anyone "disrespecting the American flag or our country" and went into a speech about how his grandfathers served in the military.

He got absolutely ripped apart by other players in the NFL, including his own teammates in some cases. He issued an apology on Instagram about an hour ago.

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MoogleKupo141 posted...

it would have to be rock. I think the percentage of people who have any faith in Kanyes mental state is very low.

You would have thought that about Trump too though
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1268494718394085376

yeah, what we REALLY need to be talking about right now is roger stone

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https://twitter.com/acyn/status/1268389771820204034?s=21

Interesting change in tone
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xp1337 posted...

NFL QB for the New Orleans Saints. ONe of the best/most known/popular players in the league.

He was asked about the possibility of players kneeling during the anthem again this season given everything that has happened and he said he would never agree with anyone "disrespecting the American flag or our country" and went into a speech about how his grandfathers served in the military.

He got absolutely ripped apart by other players in the NFL, including his own teammates in some cases. He issued an apology on Instagram about an hour ago.

Shame because his response was a good one. Obviously it is what he believes though, and he is just saying what people want to hear for financial reasons.

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Actually it was an atrocious response because that was never what the protest was about and he was rightfully called out for it from Michael Thomas, Malcolm Jenkins, Richard Sherman, and Aaron Rodgers among many others.

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imagine complaining about fucking kneeling in these times

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Mr Lasastryke posted...

imagine complaining about fucking kneeling in these times

He was asked directly about it.

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xp1337 posted...

Actually it was an atrocious response because that was never what the protest was about and he was rightfully called out for it from Michael Thomas, Malcolm Jenkins, Richard Sherman, and Aaron Rodgers among many others.

Your protest can be about something else and still by how it is done do something else as well.

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New FSU head football coach lied about having one on one talks with his team about the protests and has already lost the loyalty of the players. Theyre refusing his workouts
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

who's going to become president first, rock or kanye

T-Swift.

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Oh god if only
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Corrik7 posted...

He was asked directly about it.

so he's obligated to answer?

he could have just said "i think there's more important things going on right now than a discussion of the kneeling crap that took place two years ago." would have been a much better response.

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Mr Lasastryke posted...

so he's obligated to answer?

he could have just said "i think there's more important things going on right now than a discussion of the kneeling crap that took place two years ago." would have been a much better response.

People aren't obligated to give responses you wish to hear, Lasa. He was asked a question, and he answered it how he felt.

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Mr Lasastryke posted...

that took place two years ago

four

that was four years ago

though i understand that time has no meaning anymore because y'all remember that we almost went to war with iran this year?

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Supposedly a man with a wolverine type glove attacked people in New York recently. O.o

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Corrik7 posted...

People aren't obligated to give responses you wish to hear, Lasa. He was asked a question, and he answered it how he felt.

Maybe if there's enough outrage that he has to change his response and apologize for "financial reasons", he should reconsider why he "feels" the way he does.

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Corrik7 posted...

People aren't obligated to give responses you wish to hear, Lasa. He was asked a question, and he answered it how he felt.

...when did i say that?

i didn't say "he's forced to give the response i want to hear." he's allowed to answer however he wants to, and then i'm allowed to say that i think his reponse sucked.

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Inviso posted...

Maybe if there's enough outrage that he has to change his response and apologize for "financial reasons", he should reconsider why he "feels" the way he does.

He doesn't have to reconsider anything. He is allowed to have his opinion as much as the next person. You are arguing for censorship during a time where people are protesting to have their feelings heard. Stop being hypocritical to the cause.


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xp1337 posted...

four

that was four years ago

though i understand that time has no meaning anymore because y'all remember that we almost went to war with iran this year?

...huh.

we were definitely still arguing about it two years ago, though. i guess i was confusing it with that!

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Corrik7 posted...

You are arguing for censorship

Mr Lasastryke posted...

...huh.

we were definitely still arguing about it two years ago, though. i guess i was confusing it with that!

Yeah, the origin was back in the cursed year of 2016. The story would come up occasionally after that as Kaepernick's saga with the NFL and how he was essentially run out of the league played out via legal challenges alleging collusion, etc. would have updates and we'd talk about it.

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You are allowed to hold opinions, yes. But if those opinions are abhorrent, people are allowed to call you out for them, and perhaps if that happens, you should reconsider the validity of your opinion. You don't have to...but you CAN and perhaps SHOULD. None of that is censorship.

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My absolute favorite thing about stupid centrists is their belief that consequences for their words and actions are the REAL censorship

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Odd how the people who don't like 'disrespecting the flag' are upset when people tear down statues of traitors who fought against the American People and its government.

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Peace___Frog posted...

My absolute favorite thing about stupid centrists is their belief that consequences for their words and actions are the REAL censorship

Yup. It's absolutely not censorship if you listen to what somebody has to say, decide they're an asshole, and tell them to fuck off.

Unrelatedly, people heard what Drew Brees had to say, decided he was an asshole, and told him to fuck off.

I mean yeah these people think appending speech on a tweet is censorship

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Inviso posted...

You are allowed to hold opinions, yes. But if those opinions are abhorrent, people are allowed to call you out for them, and perhaps if that happens, you should reconsider the validity of your opinion. You don't have to...but you CAN and perhaps SHOULD. None of that is censorship.

It's abhorrent to not want people to disrespect the flag in a way he thinks disrespects it???

Seriously?

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It is abhorrent that he thinks those actions disrespect the flag, yes.

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Its abhorrent to still not understand the protest at this point
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Peace___Frog posted...

It is abhorrent that he thinks those actions disrespect the flag, yes.

I think you might disagree with his view regarding it but that his view is hardly abhorrent. That's a bit much.

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Jakyl25 posted...

Its abhorrent to still not understand the protest at this point

He never said he didn't understand the protest. He said he disagreed with disrespecting the flag. He can understand your protest and its aims while still thinking it is disrespecting the flag.

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Corrik7 posted...

It's abhorrent to not want people to disrespect the flag in a way he thinks disrespects it???

Seriously?

MAYBE, if he THINKS that kneeling to protest police brutality against black people is disrespectful to the flag, and he then gets called out for this BELIEF, PERHAPS he should MAYBE just MAYBE take a moment and CONSIDER the POSSIBILITY that his OPINION is WRONG.

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Inviso posted...

MAYBE, if he THINKS that kneeling to protest police brutality against black people is disrespectful to the flag, and he then gets called out for this BELIEF, PERHAPS he should MAYBE just MAYBE take a moment and CONSIDER the POSSIBILITY that his OPINION is WRONG.

Or maybe yours is wrong. Maybe it is disrespectful to the flag to stage a protest during the national anthem.

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I actually just read his apology

I recognize that I am part of the solution and can be a leader for the black community in this movement.

...what
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No it absolutely is abhorrent to see the suffering of your fellow man and go "the flag part is the most important part of this whole discussion."

It's like going to a soup kitchen and complaining about the bowls being kinda old.

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Also, I love the fact that you jumped to the "YOU'RE ARGUING FOR CENSORSHIP!" argument to defend a statement in which the speaker is claiming it's disrespectful for Colin Kaepernick to use his freedom of speech to express HIS opinion.

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Peace___Frog posted...

My absolute favorite thing about stupid centrists is their belief that consequences for their words and actions are the REAL censorship

They say Freedom of Speech but what they mean is Freedom from Consequences.

And because it seemingly bears repeating every time. Kaepernick started his protest by simply sitting on the bench during the anthem. He was then approached by Nate Boyer a retired Green Beret and former player who said he should kneel instead because it was a more respectful gesture and Kaepernick listened and started kneeling instead.

Trying to distort the narrative into it being "disrespect" was always a politically motivated hijack from the right (and Trump especially since this was the 2016 campaign remember) to discredit and shut down any conversation on the actual substance that was there because that's not a conversation they are comfortable having and cynically felt they could use it to inflame racial tensions and drive votes in the election.

Anyone with a shred of objectivity knew that wasn't what it was about.

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Corrik7 posted...

Maybe it is disrespectful to the flag to stage a protest during the national anthem.

You know what's disrespectful?

Being murdered by police.

You know what isn't disrespectful?

Kneeling.

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Corrik7 posted...

Or maybe yours is wrong. Maybe it is disrespectful to the flag to stage a protest during the national anthem.

Maybe. But again, this whole argument started with you whining about how he backed down from his original statement, after receiving considerable backlash. Under those circumstances, your argument is "FUCK EVERYONE ELSE. DON'T ABSORB ANY NEW INFORMATION TO POTENTIALLY ALTER YOUR OPINION. JUST DOUBLE DOWN."

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