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The_Freecs 06/02/20 12:14:19 AM #1: |
Its only been 4 days since I jerked it, but Im getting brain fog and irritability already. I didnt realise I was reliant on fapping. Anyone else go through this?
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darkphoenix181 06/02/20 12:16:16 AM #2: |
Yea if you start nofap you will notice that your brain acts weird.
You will have days of depression that won't make sense. Day where your brain feels kinda like it sorta burning. But other days you will feel really energetic and outgoing more than usual. Keep with it. I did 60 days before relapse. After a few more I started noticing these weird feelings and the before and after. I also have medically induced psoriasis and notice that when I relapse it gets bad but after a few days of nofap it gets alot better. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeperMessiahXX 06/02/20 12:24:29 AM #3: |
I went through something like 6-8 weeks of no jacking it. My dad died and it just felt weird to masturbate after that, so I didn't. After that my balls started to ache so I did the deed and they felt better and I've been doing it ever since.
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Vyrulisse 06/02/20 12:25:13 AM #4: |
Nofap is a meme, just squeeze the hog
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darkphoenix181 06/02/20 12:25:52 AM #5: |
Ye the urge becomes intense.
But actually stuff starts coming out when you pee so it won't actually harm you. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 06/02/20 12:27:17 AM #6: |
Vyrulisse posted...
Nofap is a meme, just squeeze the hog It really isn't. Some guys become really docile and awkward if they keep fapping. Not all guys, so those who don't think it is a myth. Like for serious I have noticed I have a hard time talking loud and get extra anxious in groups after relapse. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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smoke_break 06/02/20 12:36:26 AM #7: |
Nah, when I did nofap I didn't really get horny because I didn't look at porn either. It was only irritating when I'd get random boners after two weeks just from the nut buildup.
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Smashingpmkns 06/02/20 12:37:09 AM #8: |
You either fap or you riot. I don't make the rules.
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darkphoenix181 06/02/20 12:38:16 AM #9: |
smoke_break posted...
Nah, when I did nofap I didn't really get horny because I didn't look at porn either. It was only irritating when I'd get random boners after two weeks just from the nut buildup. Gotta be careful. I watched breaking bad and for some reason they have a scene with bare lady in the first ep and it made me relapse. Rest of show no nudity. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kaiganeer 06/02/20 12:39:26 AM #10: |
use it or lose it
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The_Freecs 06/02/20 12:41:16 AM #11: |
If I had a gf this would be so much easier
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squarion 06/02/20 12:42:16 AM #12: |
The myth has been busted
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smoke_break 06/02/20 12:45:10 AM #13: |
darkphoenix181 posted...
It really isn't. Some guys become really docile and awkward if they keep fapping.Yeah, I had to be careful with what I watched on TV. A lot of shows had more sex appeal than one would think. After not looking at porn for awhile even just a miniskirt and a tight top can do it tbh. Edit: I meant to quote your other post, too hard to correct it on mobile. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 06/02/20 12:45:51 AM #14: |
squarion posted...
The myth has been busted Nope. Some myths have, because there are a bunch of myths. I read that fapping releases spinal fluids. That is a myth that could be busted. But a person who is anxious and faps to feel better instead of leaving the house and confronting that anxiety? That is no myth. That is what fat people do with food. It might not be that fapping is in itself the problem, but the problem is fapping is a placeholder comfort addiction for many men. I even see some men say dating is too hard, easier just to fap. And surprise, they are lonely. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 06/02/20 12:46:51 AM #15: |
smoke_break posted...
Yeah, I had to be careful with what I watched on TV. A lot of shows had more sex appeal than one would think. After not looking at porn for awhile even just a miniskirt and a tight top can do it tbh. Which is part of the benefit that is not a myth. Girls you normally would blow off actually give you a boner and you want to earn their attention. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pepper2012 06/02/20 12:47:55 AM #16: |
Guys it's a natural thing you are supposed to do it
Do you also try and go 6-8 weeks without eating then wonder why you feel like shit ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheoryzC 06/02/20 12:48:58 AM #17: |
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smoke_break 06/02/20 12:49:34 AM #18: |
darkphoenix181 posted...
Which is part of the benefit that is not a myth.This is true. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Perascamin 06/02/20 12:50:17 AM #19: |
Male masturbation causes testosterone loss
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darkphoenix181 06/02/20 12:51:34 AM #20: |
pepper2012 posted...
Guys it's a natural thing you are supposed to do it What makes it natural? The ability to see naked women on demand is only about 20 years old fyi. Sure, before the internet you could buy a mag or a video, but guess what? Fapping to the same image eventually stops working. Ever wonder why that is? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pepper2012 06/02/20 12:54:48 AM #21: |
darkphoenix181 posted...
What makes it natural? Pretty sure theyve had brothels like forever ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 06/02/20 12:56:30 AM #22: |
pepper2012 posted...
Pretty sure theyve had brothels like forever You gonna bust it out and fap in front of everyone like that? Even so, unless you rich, you won't be doing that everyday or multiple times a day. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pepper2012 06/02/20 12:58:21 AM #23: |
darkphoenix181 posted...
You gonna bust it out and fap in front of everyone like that? Ok so what you're telling me is the caveman didnt fap Nobody whacked it until 20 years ago when bam we had the internet ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 06/02/20 1:10:40 AM #24: |
pepper2012 posted...
Ok so what you're telling me is the caveman didnt fap I don't believe they did to something other than their imagination or partners. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pancake 06/02/20 1:13:00 AM #25: |
nofap is a stupid alt-right thing.
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/coomer-meme-no-nut-november-nofap-908676/ also masturbation is linked to decreased risk of prostate cancer: https://www.europeanurology.com/article/S0302-2838(16)00377-8/abstract/ejaculation-frequency-and-risk-of-prostate-cancer-updated-results-with-an-additional-decade-of-follow-up with the caveat that 'frequent' masturbation through ages 20-30 is linked to higher incidence. but as far as i can tell that refers to greater than daily ejaculation. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 06/02/20 1:17:11 AM #26: |
Pancake posted...
nofap is a stupid alt-right thing. Literally vanilla workout vids on youtube suggest nofap. Also people with ED try it. Weird to try to assign it politics. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 06/02/20 1:19:52 AM #27: |
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/mar/11/young-men-porn-induced-erectile-dysfunction
I wonder if porn paid to have some sites try to tie politics to nofap. Porn makes big $$$ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pancake 06/02/20 1:19:52 AM #28: |
weird to ignore all the signs that it was propagated by people with an agenda. weird to ignore actual science on the subject while you yourself propagate it further.
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darkphoenix181 06/02/20 1:20:39 AM #29: |
Pancake posted...
weird to ignore all the signs that it was propagated by people with an agenda. weird to ignore actual science on the subject while you yourself propagate it further. Read above article. Note science. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The_Freecs 06/02/20 1:22:39 AM #30: |
Bro idc if its bullshit. All I know is that when I managed to do 6 weeks before I was starting to get morning wood again which I hadnt before I started.
gotta work for something at least. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pancake 06/02/20 1:22:55 AM #31: |
i'm looking for science, not finding any. just anecdotes. link a study like i did.
proponents believe clinical and anecdotal evidence is mounting that links compulsive pornography use and ED. Studies of this are not yet extensive and results are mixed with some finding no connection. this is the best your article has. beliefs, not data. don't invoke science when you're not using any. Bro idc if its bullshit. daily ejaculation seems to be good for prostate health, and you should care, unless you're into developing cancer. https://www.survivornet.com/articles/how-daily-masturbation-could-decrease-mens-risk-of-prostate-cancer/ --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 06/02/20 1:25:45 AM #32: |
The_Freecs posted...
Bro idc if its bullshit. All I know is that when I managed to do 6 weeks before I was starting to get morning wood again which I hadnt before I started. He wants to label you as alt right though. So, what is the reason you started nofap? Maybe you can bust his myth ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pancake 06/02/20 1:26:24 AM #33: |
i'm not labeling anyone as alt-right, just as unscientific and ignorant and willing to buy into alt-right ideologies because research and data are beyond them.
stop believing everything you read on 4chan. you aren't redpilled, you're just gullible. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The_Freecs 06/02/20 1:29:21 AM #34: |
Pancake posted...
i'm looking for science, not finding any. just anecdotes. link a study like i did. thats great but if you are having sex regularly that wouldnt be an issue. I hope I get there one day lol. darkphoenix181 posted... He wants to label you as alt right though. kinda embarrassing but was having some issues with Ed. Like the desire was there Im as horny as always but my body wasnt functioning properly. 4 days in Im seeing an improvement but I know Im gonna flatline pretty soon. also I noticed any time I was upset about something I would just jump straight to fapping and hold in my emotions. Ive definitely been getting a lot more emotional today so maybe its a result of nofap lol. in the end I just dont want to be reliant on fapping As a comfort food for my real issues. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The_Freecs 06/02/20 1:30:39 AM #35: |
Pancake posted...
i'm not labeling anyone as alt-right, just as unscientific and ignorant and willing to buy into alt-right ideologies because research and data are beyond them. call me gullible or call it placebo. But I was definitely seeing improvements when I managed it for 6 weeks. I just wish I had enough willpower to not break the streak back then. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 06/02/20 1:36:23 AM #36: |
Pancake posted...
i'm not labeling anyone as alt-right, just as unscientific and ignorant and willing to buy into alt-right ideologies because research and data are beyond them. Redpilled? I don't even know what that means. Only did nofap to have more energy to workout and impress ladies. Even if it don't work, it might give a placebo effect. But you want to turn it into politics. And saying science is on your side is a bad take when a person legit feels better by abstaining vs. Fapping the night before. Fyi, medicine and nutrition effect different people in different ways. That is why doctors prescribe 1 medicine then another till one works. What I am saying is anecdotal evidence might not work as something to recommend to everyone, but if you try it and it works for you, well, it worked. Which is ironically why the trend is growing. That is why you want to label it alt right. You don't want to have to admit that people anecdotally feel it working. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pancake 06/02/20 1:39:32 AM #37: |
And saying science is on your side is a bad take when a person legit feels better by abstaining vs. Fapping the night before.
that's what we call an anecdote. saying science is on my side is the right take when i can actually link studies that prove what i'm saying. that's how that one works. if we want to get into anecdotes, i could cite all the people who don't participate and yet lead perfectly normal lives and don't suffer ED and how that shoots down your argument entirely. a few stories do not a case make. however, i'm not into that type of bullshitting, and i wish people like you weren't, while they spread information that is potentially harmful, per that actual study i gave you showing a link between masturbation and a reduction in prostate cancer. According to the study, published in the journal European Urology, men who ejaculate more frequently than a typical man can reduce their risk of prostate cancer by up to 33 percent. The optimal frequency of ejaculation is 21 times per month. don't ignore your bodily functions. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pseudomenon 06/02/20 1:50:20 AM #38: |
Every single time I've had any extended time interacting with a nofapper, they inevitably revealed themselves to have very unsavory right-wing views at least partially motivating their reverence of abstinence. It's usually, but not limited to, misogyny and racism.
That said, porn addiction is very real and dealing with it doesn't necessarily have to be motivated by all of that stuff. It's also not something that IMO can be properly dealt with through nofap. I know not everyone has access to therapy and the like but it's really something much better worked through with a professional. --- That's a great idea. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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21WIVES_CHILL 06/02/20 1:52:08 AM #39: |
You release tons of zinc and other vital nutrients in your body.
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darkphoenix181 06/02/20 1:58:52 AM #40: |
So what studies are on your side?
You think guys with ED or who are depressed and lonely wanting to see if this helps them talk to women better are worried about prostate cancer? All I see is not really sciency articles saying nofap is bs, yet they don't really tackle these things. They attack stuff like sperm count going up etc. Like here: https://www.fatherly.com/health-science/no-nut-november-is-bad-for-men/ We got sentences like "there is consensus it is all hogwash". Where the actual studies where people tried nofap and found it did nada? I find porn and ed link has conflicting results. Some say there is a link, others claim there is none. So when the science isn't clear or an adequate study has not been done and you think "lemme try it and see if it works" that makes you a bad person according to you? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pancake 06/02/20 1:59:38 AM #41: |
That said, porn addiction is very real and dealing with it doesn't necessarily have to be motivated by all of that stuff. It's also not something that IMO can be properly dealt with through nofap. I know not everyone has access to therapy and the like but it's really something much better worked through with a professional.
absolutely. all of that. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 06/02/20 2:00:48 AM #42: |
Pseudomenon posted...
and racism. How does that even work? Not sure what benefit not fapping does for being racist. Being more irriatable? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 06/02/20 2:10:14 AM #43: |
Pancake posted...
So what studies are on your side? You said can you be more dishonest to me and then claimed you answered this question of mine: darkphoenix181 posted... You think guys with ED or who are depressed and lonely wanting to see if this helps them talk to women better are worried about prostate cancer? darkphoenix181 posted... Where the actual studies where people tried nofap and found it did nada? That study wasn't to see abstinence effect on mood, attitude or ED. It just shows a higher frequency and development of cancer. And as I said, don't believe anyone does nofap to try to fight cancer. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pseudomenon 06/02/20 2:11:39 AM #44: |
darkphoenix181 posted...
How does that even work? Not sure what benefit not fapping does for being racist. They do it because of racist views, not to alleviate them. I've seen porn and masturbation being scapegoated for low white birthing rates, emasculating white men who can't compete with (and I'm putting this in a far more respectable way than has ever been presented to me) hyper virile men of other races, and other lunacy like that. --- That's a great idea. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 06/02/20 2:13:22 AM #45: |
Pseudomenon posted...
They do it because of racist views, not to alleviate them. I've seen porn and masturbation being scapegoated for low white birthing rates, emasculating white men who can't compete with (and I'm putting this in a far more respectable way than has ever been presented to me) hyper virile men of other races, and other lunacy like that. Lol they think only white dudes have access to porn apparently ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pancake 06/02/20 2:15:43 AM #46: |
i didn't claim to answer any of those questions. you asked what studies were on my side. are you incapable of honesty?
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Pseudomenon 06/02/20 2:17:06 AM #47: |
darkphoenix181 posted...
Lol they think only white dudes have access to porn apparentlyNobody ever said they were a bright bunch. --- That's a great idea. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 06/02/20 2:22:06 AM #48: |
Pancake posted...
i didn't claim to answer any of those questions. you asked what studies were on my side. are you incapable of honesty? We were never arguing about cancer. I never said fapping didn't decrease cancer. So, wondering where the study showing a large group attempting nofap and seeing if it has any effect or not. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pancake 06/02/20 2:23:44 AM #49: |
We were never arguing about cancer.
you weren't arguing about cancer or health or anything measurable because your beliefs don't depend on anything like that. don't lump me in with you. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 06/02/20 2:27:14 AM #50: |
Pancake posted...
We were never arguing about cancer. What was discussed was measurable. So I guess this is the part where you realize there is no actual study on the subject done and yet when people anecdotally say it helped them people like you claim they did it bad faith (alt right) and are unscientific cause studies (you cannot cite) refute their anecdote that had nothing to do with cancer or other postive health effects of fap. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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