Poll of the Day > Why are people talking about protesters and rioters getting ahot like...

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They're being shot and killed like it's a genocide?

They're being shot by rubber bullets, and while there are occasions while live ammunition are being use against protesters and rioters, those are just isolated incidents that have no correlation with the overall operation done by the National Guard.

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People are being blinded by police violence, but it's okay because they're not dead?

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papercup posted...

People are being blinded by police violence, but it's okay because they're not dead?

Blinded?

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thedeerzord posted...

Blinded?

Well yeah, the police are pepper spraying them

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thedeerzord posted...

Blinded?

People are being shot in the eyes in some cases.

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Ogurisama posted...

Well yeah, the police are pepper spraying them

Pepper spray doesn't permanent blind you, so yes it would be okay as long as they use it in self defense.

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Rubber bullets (also called rubber baton rounds) are rubber or rubber-coated projectiles that can be fired from either standard firearms or dedicated riot guns. They are intended to be a less lethal alternative to metal projectiles. Rubber projectiles have largely been replaced by other materials as rubber tends to bounce uncontrollably.

Such "kinetic impact munitions" are meant to cause pain but not serious injury. They are expected to produce contusions, abrasions, and hematomas. However, they may cause bone fractures, injuries to internal organs, or death. In a study of injuries in 90 patients injured by rubber bullets, 1 died, 17 suffered permanent disabilities or deformities and 41 required hospital treatment after being fired upon with rubber bullets.

The British developed rubber roundsthe "Round, Anti-Riot, 1.5in Baton"in 1970 for use against people in Northern Ireland. A low power propelling charge gave them a muzzle velocity of about 60 m/s (200 ft/s) and maximum range of about 100 m (110 yd). The intended use is to fire at the ground so that the round bounces up and hits the target on the legs, causing pain but not injury. From 1970 to 1975, about 55,000 rubber bullets were fired by the British Army in Northern Ireland. Often they were fired directly at people from close range, which resulted in three people being killed and many more being badly injured. Among these injuries, a notable victim was Emma Groves who was blinded in one incident. In 1975, they were replaced by plastic bullets. In Northern Ireland over 35 years (19702005), about 125,000 rubber and plastic bullets were firedan average of ten per daycausing 17 deaths.

The baton round was made available to British police forces outside Northern Ireland from 2001. In 2013 however, Ministry of Defence papers declassified from 1977 revealed it was aware rubber bullets were more dangerous than was publicly disclosed. The documents contained legal advice for the MoD to seek a settlement over a child who had been blinded in 1972, rather than go to court which would expose problems with the bullets and make it harder to fight future related cases. The papers stated that further tests would reveal serious problems with the bullets, including that they were tested "in a shorter time than was ideal", that they "could be lethal" and that they "could and did cause serious injuries".

Israeli rubber bullets are produced in two main types. The older type, the standard rubber bullet, is a steel sphere coated in a thin layer of rubber, weighing 14 grams, while the newly improved rubber bullet, introduced in 1989, is a rubber-coated metal cylinder 1.7 cm in diameter, weighing 15.4 grams. Of the lethal injuries from this projectile, most are suffered to the head.

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https://www.thecut.com/2020/05/what-does-a-rubber-bullet-feel-like.html

On Friday, a journalist said it felt like her face exploded with a rush of blood after being hit by a rubber bullet in Minneapolis. She is now likely permanently blind in her left eye. Actor Kendrick Sampson said an LAPD officer pointed a gun directly at him before pelting him with rubber bullets and posted a video of another man who was rushed to the hospital after being shot in the face.

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captpackrat posted...

https://www.thecut.com/2020/05/what-does-a-rubber-bullet-feel-like.html

On Friday, a journalist said it felt like her face exploded with a rush of blood after being hit by a rubber bullet in Minneapolis. She is now likely permanently blind in her left eye. Actor Kendrick Sampson said an LAPD officer pointed a gun directly at him before pelting him with rubber bullets and posted a video of another man who was rushed to the hospital after being shot in the face.

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aimed at certain points it can result in serious damage for certain people

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thedeerzord posted...

Blinded?

That one dude got a tear can gas to the eye and then lost it.

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They are aiming at people's heads with the rubber bullets, and blinded this photographer who went to the protests to do work for news outlets:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/30/us/minneapolis-protests-press.html
https://twitter.com/killermartinis/status/1266786161143537669

And:
https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/local/la-mesa-protest-grandmother-shot-in-the-head-with-rubber-bullet/509-fc24d616-5de8-439d-acf0-7ef2d09c84e8

And:
https://www.democracynow.org/2020/6/1/headlines/black_sacramento_teen_recovering_after_being_shot_in_face_with_rubber_bullet

https://www.texasmonthly.com/news/volunteers-austin-injured-protesters/
"multiple SMA volunteers agreed that the most troubling thing they witnessed was a pregnant black woman being shot with rubber bullets multiple times by police. They shot her in the stomach and when she hit the ground they shot her twice in her spine and in her back, Drake recalled, crouching as she spoke at the sound of another loud bang. She kept screaming, They killed my baby! They killed my baby!"

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Gaawa_chan posted...

They are aiming at people's heads with the rubber bullets, and blinded this photographer who went to the protests to do work for news outlets:
https://twitter.com/killermartinis/status/1266786161143537669

dude that freaking sucks

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It should be noted, if it hasn't been already, that police have been deliberately aiming at members of the press and people recording what is happening in general (like shooting shit at people on their own private property who are recording police walking by).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LozQg0oX-Gw

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Its mostly nonlethal police brutality! Why are people not happy with it???

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Would you be happier dead?

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That's why it's called "less than lethal", not "nonlethal".

Also why firesuits are fire retardant, not fireproof.

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They have to use less than lethal weapons, if they unload live ammo on unarmed citizens they will lose. The odds are NOT in the police/military's favor if they decide to go lethal.

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Nightwish posted...

They have to use less than lethal weapons, if they unload live ammo on unarmed citizens they will lose. The odds are NOT in the police/military's favor if they decide to go lethal.

Jesus fucking christ

Im not sure you could have done a better job missing the entire point if you tried

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shadowsword87 posted...

That's why it's called "less than lethal", not "nonlethal".

Guess it's better than getting shot in the eye with a 45 slug.

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People are indeed being permanently injured, blinded, and killed. It's not a genocide, but it doesn't need to be for it to be absolutely unnecessary and heinous.

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Apparently tear gas can cause a reaction with certain contact lenses that can permanently blind you.

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How can you be so uninformed, tc?

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