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Josiah_Is_Back
06/03/20 12:41:04 PM
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In Revenge of the Sith, after Anakin tells Mace Windu that Palpatine is the Sith Lord they've been searching for, Mace tells Anakin that he has earned Mace's trust, and instructs him to wait in the Council Chamber until Mace returns.

If Anakin had just listened and stayed put, Mace would've killed Sidious and then they would've finally granted Anakin the rank of Jedi Master.

Why else would he have Anakin wait in the Council Chamber?

Makes it that much sadder. :(
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AzurexNightmare
06/03/20 12:42:30 PM
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He was meant to bring balance to the force :p

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Veggeta X
06/03/20 12:43:55 PM
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Josiah_Is_Back posted...
Why else would he have Anakin wait in the Council Chamber?
I'm thinking Mace knew Anakin was conflicted so the thought the best thing to do was for Anakin to wait

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InfinityMonster
06/03/20 12:44:17 PM
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obeseexplosive
06/03/20 12:45:06 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
I'm thinking Mace knew Anakin was conflicted so the thought the best thing to do was for Anakin to wait
At least give the fucker a puzzle book or something then.

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Kajagogo
06/03/20 12:48:32 PM
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InfinityMonster posted...

The kid in the back is just chillin', like he doesn't care he's about to be murdered.

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InfinityMonster
06/03/20 12:49:27 PM
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Kajagogo posted...
The kid in the back is just chillin', like he doesn't care he's about to be murdered.
Badass af



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Tyranthraxus
06/03/20 1:04:21 PM
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Anakin probably cared more about this stupid ass mythical power to "save lives" than a silly title at this point. It's unlikely him being an official master would mean anything.

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DoctorVader
06/03/20 1:05:59 PM
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I had a shower thought today.

Was when he said "I need him" when he truly fell to the dark side?

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EmbraceOfDeath
06/03/20 1:06:03 PM
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InfinityMonster posted...
Yep, that's me. You're probably wondering how I got here...

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Kajagogo
06/03/20 1:16:29 PM
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EmbraceOfDeath posted...
Yep, that's me. You're probably wondering how I got here...

lol

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monkmith
06/03/20 1:18:32 PM
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AzurexNightmare posted...
He was meant to bring balance to the force :p
that he did, way fewer jedi after that movie...

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MC_BatCommander
06/03/20 1:18:50 PM
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idk why the fuck Anakin basically gets tricked into being evil and just rolls with it

dude kills Mace and betrays the Jedi, finds out he can't actually stop people from dying and is just all "whateves"

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monkmith
06/03/20 1:20:02 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
idk why the fuck Anakin basically gets tricked into being evil and just rolls with it

dude massacres everyone, finds out he can't actually stop people from dying and is just all "whateves"
EU went into it. he pretty much realized that he had nothing left but getting strong enough to kill the emperor.

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AzurexNightmare
06/03/20 3:18:24 PM
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monkmith posted...
EU went into it. he pretty much realized that he had nothing left but getting strong enough to kill the emperor.
I wonder if Vader was too weak (compared to Anakins full potential) to bring people back from the dead like Plagueis and Sidious or if Sidious was just too much of a dick to teach Vader.

Anakin with full potential is supposed to be the most Supreme being ever, right? Or is prime Yoda above that?

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monkmith
06/03/20 3:35:23 PM
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AzurexNightmare posted...
I wonder if Vader was too weak (compared to Anakins full potential) to bring people back from the dead like Plagueis and Sidious or if Sidious was just too much of a dick to teach Vader.

Anakin with full potential is supposed to be the most Supreme being ever, right? Or is prime Yoda above that?
they never really had the ability to bring random people back from the dead, they were looking for a way to make themselves immortal. the "plot" from ep9 where sidious comes back was lifted from old EU comics about sidious using dark side fuckery to make his spirit immortal.

sidious was too much of a dick to teach anakin. i'm not sure if this is considered spoilers so i'll just spoiler text it all.

In the EU, sidious never really wanted anakin to get stronger then him. he had abandoned the rule of two, where you're supposed to teach your apprentice and make them strong enough to kill you and take your place. he saw himself at the end of that cycle, and saw a stronger anakin as someone that could kill him which ran counter to his plans for immortality. so he gimped him, he put him in a crap suit with bad prosthetics and limited how much vader could learn under him.

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GeneralKenobi85
06/03/20 3:38:27 PM
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If everything with Palpatine had gone differently and he was defeated, I think Anakin would have left the Order anyway. Either he'd have been forced out once his relationship with Padme was revealed or he would have left on his own accord.

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monkmith
06/03/20 3:41:34 PM
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GeneralKenobi85 posted...
If everything with Palpatine had gone differently and he was defeated, I think Anakin would have left the Order anyway. Either he'd have been forced out once his relationship with Padme was revealed or he would have left on his own accord.
there were sitting council members with children, and anakin was so popular that they wouldn't have been able to remove him. he'd have likely been sidelined once his wife and kid came out though.

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Tyranthraxus
06/03/20 4:09:08 PM
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GeneralKenobi85 posted...
If everything with Palpatine had gone differently and he was defeated, I think Anakin would have left the Order anyway. Either he'd have been forced out once his relationship with Padme was revealed or he would have left on his own accord.
Not sure how the Jedi feel about apostasy. I don't think they would have let him leave.

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monkmith
06/03/20 4:22:59 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Not sure how the Jedi feel about apostasy. I don't think they would have let him leave.
dooku was a jedi master who left.

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Tyranthraxus
06/03/20 4:23:30 PM
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monkmith posted...
dooku was a jedi master who left.
That's why they don't let you leave.

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monkmith
06/03/20 4:28:17 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
That's why they don't let you leave.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UsDLGdVQIo

and that only counted masters, knights and padawans were more common.

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Veggeta X
06/03/20 4:45:22 PM
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Yes Vader was planning to betray the Emporer from the get go as all apprentices do to their master in Sith history.

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monkmith
06/03/20 4:54:51 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
Yes Vader was planning to betray the Emporer from the get go as all apprentices do to their master in Sith history.
then he got turned into a limbless cyborg and put into a suit that blocked him from learning sith lightning.

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GeneralKenobi85
06/03/20 4:58:05 PM
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monkmith posted...
there were sitting council members with children, and anakin was so popular that they wouldn't have been able to remove him. he'd have likely been sidelined once his wife and kid came out though.
I think it was just Ki-Adi-Mundi who falls under that category because of his species' low birth rate. But I'm not even sure if that's canon anymore.

I do think Anakin leaving the Jedi would more likely be his own choice though. I think a lot of Jedi would recognize how important his service in the Clone Wars was. I can't imagine banning him would be a popular decision at all. And he'd have both Yoda and Obi-Wan in his corner in all likelihood.

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