Current Events > #AllLivesMatter in response to #BlackLivesMatter is racist

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They know what they are doing. No one is this stupid. It is 100% a racial attack. No excuses. It isn't anyone's job to try to explain this to anyone unless they are a child under 10 years of age. Don't humor them.

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SquantoZ posted...

No one is this stupid.

That's where you're wrong.

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I dont know if its racist as much as a copout to disregard racism and its societal impact.

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Some people seriously think #BlackLivesMatter means "only Black lives matter" which is 100% wrong. Even worst when you educate someone about this and they still deny it.

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Vermander posted...

I dont know if its racist as much as a copout to disregard racism and its societal impact.

Disregarding racism is racism.

Jabodie posted...

That's where you're wrong.

No, that's making excuses for them. Don't give them excuses.

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Veggeta X posted...

Some people seriously think #BlackLivesMatter means "only Black lives matter" which is 100% wrong. Even worst when you educate someone about this and they still deny it.

"you need to educate yourself about our movement " is such a bad approach
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Lets say there are 10 people, and one is one fire. Everyone is screaming and trying to help the one on fire, except one person who is upset that no one is saying that they matter just as much as the one on fire. That's all lives matter. No shit all lives matter, but shut up and try and help or go away.

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SquantoZ posted...

Disregarding racism is racism.

No, that's making excuses for them. Don't give them excuses.

To me this sounds like saying being skeptical of existence of unicorns means I hold a prejudice against unicorns. This is a bit of a logical leap.

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Vermander posted...

To me this sounds like saying being skeptical of existence of unicorns means I hold a prejudice against unicorns. This is a bit of a logical leap.

Nope, not even close. Stop being dense.

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Everyone who says "all lives matter" knows this

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SquantoZ posted...

Nope, not even close. Stop being dense.

Its not like you were ever going to agree with me anyways; you made up your mind when you made this statement and that was the end of it.

I would say that All lives matter is most accurately unhelpful and unneeded, but I dont believe it comes from a place of ones own internal perspective of racial differences around them.

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UnfairRepresent posted...

"you need to educate yourself about our movement " is such a bad approach

No one is telling people to educate themselves. People are telling the ignorants what it means plainly.

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UnfairRepresent posted...

"you need to educate yourself about our movement " is such a bad approach

No education should be needed. If someone doesn't think black lives matter then they're a racist. Black lives matter is not a controversial statement.

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Master_Bass posted...

No education should be needed. If someone doesn't think black lives matter then they're a racist. Black lives matter is not a controversial statement.

neither is the all lives matter phrase.

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Vermander posted...

Its not like you were ever going to agree with me anyways; you made up your mind when you made this statement and that was the end of it.

Yes, because it's a fact. There's literally billions of responses from people having to explain this. There's no way these people haven't been exposed to this. They are doing it to piss people off because they are racist. There's enough out there for them to get accidentally educated about things. They are choosing to disregard it because they are racist. Don't waste your breath trying to educate these degenerates.

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White people: I know you're over there with both your legs cut off, but what about MY stubbed toe?

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#BlackLivesMatter has been explained simply and eloquently so many times. Anyone who responds with #AllLivesMatter is purposely missing the point to continue their own shitty behavior and beliefs.

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It's a cynical response to disregard the grievances of Black people. These people don't actually care about all lives.

HotLap posted...

#BlackLivesMatter has been explained simply and eloquently so many times. Anyone who responds with #AllLivesMatter is purposely missing the point to continue their own shitty behavior and beliefs.

This. Exactly!

No excuses for these people. They are racist. Plain and simple.

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Is #AllLivesMatter still racist if you say it in response to someone posting #BlueLivesMatter?

myzz7 posted...

neither is the all lives matter phrase.

It is if you refuse to admit black lives matter and that black people are disproportionately killed by the police. At face value its not, of course, though.

No one at this stage says all lives matter unless they want to rile people up, or don't care about the issues facing black people.

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Diogeknees posted...

Everyone who says "all lives matter" knows this

At this point yes

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googs19 posted...

Is #AllLivesMatter still racist if you say it in response to someone posting #BlueLivesMatter?

No. Because #Bluelivesmatter is an even more overtly racist comeback

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googs19 posted...

Is #AllLivesMatter still racist if you say it in response to someone posting #BlueLivesMatter?

Nope because blue lives matter isn't an actual thing. No one is born a cop. They choose to become cops. It is something directly in their control.

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AntiNoob posted...

To be fair, some BLM activists seemed to ignore the racial assaults during this riot. This is what triggered the #AllLivesMatter

Stop being dense

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SquantoZ posted...

Yes, because it's a fact. There's literally billions of responses from people having to explain this. There's no way these people haven't been exposed to this. They are doing it to piss people off because they are racist. There's enough out there for them to get accidentally educated about things. They are choosing to disregard it because they are racist. Don't waste your breath trying to educate these degenerates.

Not that I am a person who is stating all lives matter, but my perspective has always been in their head they are trying to say all people are equal. I assume that is the intent behind it, but they are not aware that this is not productive towards improving the situation for African Americans.


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AntiNoob posted...

To be fair, some BLM activists seemed to ignore the racial assaults during this riot. This is what triggered the #AllLivesMatter

What are you talking about

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Honestly I feel that BLM is a very misleading name that confuses people of other races.

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Blue_Target posted...

Honestly I feel that BLM is a very misleading name that confuses people of other races.

No, it doesn't.

Don't "feel". Know and understand by doing your own research. Stop being blatantly ignorant and stupid.

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LeperMessiahXX posted...

Lets say there are 10 people, and one is one fire. Everyone is screaming and trying to help the one on fire, except one person who is upset that no one is saying that they matter just as much as the one on fire. That's all lives matter. No shit all lives matter, but shut up and try and help or go away.

I don't like this logic because it implies other races don't have issues with the police.

Remember that white kid who was shot in the back by police after "refusing to comply" when he was wearing noise-cancelling headphones and walking down the street?

Or when a white guy called the police and said his schizophrenia was acting up and he needed help, only to be killed by the police while they laughed and cracked jokes about him.

I'm sure you at least remember the white guy who was killed in the hallway while police were barking contradicting orders at him on how to move down the hallway.

There is an issue with discrimination in the police department, but don't act like abuses of police are some issue that only are a problem that only black people have to deal with.

I'm not saying Black Lives Matter is a bad slogan, I just think that thing you posted is bad.

SquantoZ posted...

No, it doesn't.

Don't "feel". Know and understand by doing your own research. Stop being blatantly ignorant and stupid.

Again "You need to do research and educate yourself on our movement, we say X but we actually mean Y" is such a bad approach.

It's one of the reasons why the movement never goes anywhere or accomplishes much
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The_Ivory_Man posted...

I don't like this logic because it implies other races don't have issues with the police.

Remember that white kid who was shot in the back by police after "refusing to comply" when he was wearing noise-cancelling headphones and walking down the street?

Or when a white guy called the police and said his schizophrenia was acting up and he needed help, only to be killed by the police while they laughed and cracked jokes about him.

I'm sure you at least remember the white guy who was killed in the hallway while police were barking contradicting orders at him on how to move down the hallway.

There is an issue with discrimination in the police department, but don't act like abuses of police are some issue that only are a problem that only black people have to deal with.

I'm not saying Black Lives Matter is a bad slogan, I just think that thing you posted is bad.

Police brutality is part of the issues, yes. But black people are disproportionately killed by the police over any other group of people.

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UnfairRepresent posted...

Again "You need to do research and educate yourself on our movement, we say X but we actually mean Y" is such a bad approach.

It's one of the reasons why the movement never goes anywhere or accomplishes much

No, just no. It does not fall on people of color to educate white people on the issue. Don't put that shit on us. It is your responsibility. We can do so if we like but it is not our duty.

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The_Ivory_Man posted...

I don't like this logic because it implies other races don't have issues with the police.

Remember that white kid who was shot in the back by police after "refusing to comply" when he was wearing noise-cancelling headphones and walking down the street?

Or when a white guy called the police and said his schizophrenia was acting up and he needed help, only to be killed by the police while they laughed and cracked jokes about him.

I'm sure you at least remember the white guy who was killed in the hallway while police were barking contradicting orders at him on how to move down the hallway.

There is an issue with discrimination in the police department, but don't act like abuses of police are some issue that only are a problem that only black people have to deal with.

I'm not saying Black Lives Matter is a bad slogan, I just think that thing you posted is bad.

Guess which movement had members speaking up about and pointing out those injustices

spoiler: it wasn't the alllivesmatter brigade.

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SquantoZ posted...

No, just no. It does not fall on people of color to educate white people on the issue. Don't put that shit on us. It is your responsibility. We can do so if we like but it is not our duty.

I never mentioned anyone's race so thanks for revealing your cards on how you think about people.

But you are the one saying people need to edcuate themselves on why your slogan isn't poorly thought out.

Which is bad logic. Just have a better slogan that isn't divisive and doesn't require "Edcuation"

The Civil Rights movement didn't have to spend half their time explaining why they are called the Civil Rights Movement.
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#AllLivesMatter people don't even care about all lives. The bow and arrow guy shouted it just before trying to murder someone.

UnfairRepresent posted...

I never mentioned anyone's race so thanks for revealing your cards on how you think about people.

But you are the one saying people need to edcuate themselves on why your slogan isn't poorly thought out.

Which is bad logic. Just have a better slogan that isn't divisive and doesn't require "Edcuation"

The Civil Rights movement didn't have to spend half their time explaining why they are called the Civil Rights Movement.

Call it whatever the fuck you want. I want nothing to do with racists. Fuck them. And fuck you too for thinking we should waste our breath on these people. I'm done with white people trying to dictate how we should and shouldn't send our message. Enough is enough. Go fuck yourself.


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The response to ALM is disturbingly extreme though...

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SapphireClassic posted...

The response to ALM is disturbingly extreme though...

For good reason.

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#NoLivesMatter

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SquantoZ posted...

I want nothing to do with racists.

SquantoZ posted...

. I'm done with white people

Hmmmm
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Hmmmm

It's disgusting that youd troll like this

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The #alllifematters movement is indeed racist.

It is a response that is designed to deligtimize the need for police reform especially as it pertains to the lives of black people.

If you make it an "all lives matter" issue, the focus on police brutality carried out on black civilians by white policemen is quickly shifted, and the problem of white Americans and racism would never be addressed.

Blacks did not create racism but we're treated that way by many whites in America. Then when we try to have a conversation about it, you, the perpetrators of this racist treatment, are too uncomfortable to hear your victims out. How high-strung, arrogant and racist.

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SapphireClassic posted...

The response to ALM is disturbingly extreme though...

Yes dismissing murder obviously warrants a subtle response

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Were_Wyrm posted...

#NoLivesMatter

^That.
Anywho, saying ALM is not racist in and of itself, but given the kurrent circumstances, it's pretty tone-deaf to be throwing around.

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Diogeknees posted...

It's disgusting that youd troll like this

wut?

How am I trolling?

That's such a silly ad hominem. KINDERFELD posted...

The #alllifematters movement is indeed racist.

It is a response that is designed to deligtimize the need for police reform especially as it pertains to the lives of black people.

If you make it an "all lives matter" issue, the focus on police brutality carried out on black civilians by white policemen is quickly shifted, and the problem of white Americans and racism would never be addressed.

Blacks did not create racism but we're treated that way by many whites in America. Then when we try to have a conversation about it,

I agree entirely but the name is divisive. You're going "You don't get it, our cause is correct therefore the slogan doesn't matter!" and that's flawed reasoning.

You've put bullets into the guns of the people you're arguing with. It's basic psychology and sociology.

Why do you think whether you're for or against abortion is called Pro-Life and Pro-Choice? Why do you think invasive government overreach is called The Patriot Act?

How you name things matters. Giving something a name that will confuse your message, then going "No educate yourself we say this but we actually mean something else." is going to dilute the movement. As it did years ago when it began.

you, the perpetrators of this racist treatment, are too uncomfortable to hear your victims out. How high-strung, arrogant and racist.

Random dudes on facebook and Twitter are not the prepetrators of racist treatment. You're being hyperbolic.
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ZMythos posted...

Yes dismissing murder obviously warrants a subtle response

Meh, BLM is bad reasoning because it only applies when a white personal kills a black person, which doesnt happen NEARLY as much as a black person killing another black person.

Thats why its so fucking hypocritical and why ALM is needed.

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Don't you just wish you could leave this shit show? No other country in the world deals with this kinda stuff except western countries. What's going to be the solution? The endgame? Reintroducing segregation so that white cops are not in the black side of town ever again?

Disarming cops so they die en mass now to criminals? Dude, in the end nobody's life matters cause we are all worthy of death.

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Im_an_AssHunter posted...

Meh, BLM is bad reasoning because it only applies when a white personal kills a black person, which doesnt happen NEARLY as much as a black person killing another black person.

The point is that cops and authority figures are harsher to black and Asian people than white people.

They get arrested, roughed up, shot and murdered more often per capita for the same or less reasons.

It's a systemic problem in courts, prisons, politics and police
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