Current Events > Nation of Islam Million Man March 1995: Lessons we can Learn

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Million Man March. Pledge to Do Good
https://youtu.be/ol3BIfAKqPI

Farrakhan called for 1 Million and 2 Million came.

It was a Tranquil and Peaceful event.

I think we all can learn from the The Nation of Islam. They've been wrongfully vilified

Nation Of Islam 2020 Anthem - Fight For Your Nation. Fruit of Islam Assembly

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=share&v=8_upWyM6N7E

The Nation strives of structure off discipline and righteous living. Something we all could use in theater uncertain times. A solution to the police brutality problem would be allowing the F.O.I soldiers to care for and Patrol Black neighborhoods.

The F.O.I (Fruit Of Islam) police with love and respect and they don't carry guns or knives.

When you give respect you get respect and that is what creates peace. The Million Man March in 1995 had 2 Million Black people primarily Black Men of all walks of life and religious faith's. And there was no need for police brutality. Learning from the Nation of Islam and allowing FOI peace officers to protect neighborhoods would greatly improve relations in this country. If the government is willing to accept

Thoughts?

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Well I suppose given that Farrakhan and the NOI hate me because of my family's ethnic background I won't be a welcome ally

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Farrakhan doesn't hate anyone over their ethnic backgrounds. That's a misconception

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"the satanic Jews that control everything, and mostly everybody, if they are your enemy, you must, must be somebody."

"So when they talk about Farrakhan, call me a hater, you know what they do, call me an anti-Semite. Stop it, Im anti-Termite."

"The same year they set up the IRS, they set up the FBI. And the same year they set up the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith...It could be a coincidence...[I want] to see Black intellectuals free...I want to see them not controlled by members of the Jewish community."

"I called them Jews bloodsuckers. I'm not going to change that. Our lessons talk about the bloodsuckers of the poor in the Supreme Wisdom of the Nation of Islam. It's that old no-good Jew, that old imposter Jew, that old hooked-nose, bagel-eating, lox-eating, Johnny-come-lately perpetrating a fraud, just crawled out of the caves and hills of Europe, so-called damn Jew. . . and I feel everything I'm saying up here is kosher."

"German Jews financed Hitler right here in America...International bankers financed Hitler and poor Jews died while big Jews were at the root of what you call the Holocaust...Little Jews died while big Jews made money. Little Jews [were] being turned into soap while big Jews washed themselves with it. Jews [were] playing violin, Jews [were] playing music, while other Jews [were] marching into the gas chambers"

"You see, everybody always talk about Hitler exterminating 6 million Jews...but don't nobody ever asked what did they do to Hitler? What did they do to them folks? They went in there, in Germany, the way they do everywhere they go, and they supplanted, they usurped, they turned around, and a German, in his own country, would almost have to go to a Jew to get money. They had undermined the very fabric of the society."

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NPS got trashed over their crowd estimate being lower than a million so they don't count people anymore. There was also a major push for men to be fathers in their families. That's all I know

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He's a pretty darn hateful guy

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noi and bpp both had great ideas about how to go about establishing and maintaining peace and harmony in communities

on a tangent, with respect to the bpp in particular, reports of hispanic gangs attacking random black passerbyers in their neighborhoods recently is especially heartbreaking knowing fred hampton worked to create cooperative peace between the different marginalized peoples of chicago, only to get assassinated by feds for it

but yeah, on topic, community self-policing has a lot of potential granted accountability can be properly maintained

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You have to watch his speeches in full context. He's not talking about all Jews when he made those statements. Any person who does evil is a devil. There are people who claim to be religious but use their religion to hide their dirty day to day behavior. Those are who are described as satanic or described as practicing gutter religion as hes stated. Whether they practice Judaism, Christianity or even Islam. He's called it all out no chaser

I can take snippets of quotes from him and make him look like an Anti Black racist. He even says Black criminals devils.

Any man that submits their will to do evil is a devil. Any man who submits their will to do good is a reflection of God.

In this soundbite and cancel happy society though, we've silenced the very people who have real solutions to the centuries old problems that we've been facing.


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2Pacavelli posted...

You have to watch his speeches in full context

I'm struggling to think of context that would make the examples I've shown here sound not shitty

Particularly the last one

"What did the Jews do to Hitler?"

fuck that shit

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A peaceful march with millions is what we need

Trump will melt down

Doom_Art posted...

I'm struggling to think of context that would make the examples I've shown here sound not shitty

Particularly the last one

"What did the Jews do to Hitler?"

fuck that shit

If you take any man's words out of context you can make them look evil. In the same speech the media tried to vilify him with, it was the same speech that he called Hitler a wicked ruler

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2Pacavelli posted...

If you take any man's words out of context you can make them look evil

I mean there's not really much in the way of context to make that statement not shitty

2Pacavelli posted...

it was the same speech that he called Hitler a wicked ruler

So it's "Hitler was a wicked ruler but also let's talk about what the Jews did to deserve the Holocaust?"

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Doom_Art posted...

So it's "Hitler was a wicked ruler but also let's talk about what the Jews did to deserve the Holocaust?"

He's not saying Jews deserved the Holocaust. He's speaking about the historical context and what conditions caused the rise of fascism in Nazi Germany. In College classes these things are discussed as well. Many of his speeches are history lessons

Here are Jewish people who've met him and know him personally that attest to his character.

http://researchminister.com/farrakhan-is-not-an-anti-semite-the-testimony-of-jews-and-whites/

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Doom_Art posted...

"I called them Jews bloodsuckers. I'm not going to change that. Our lessons talk about the bloodsuckers of the poor in the Supreme Wisdom of the Nation of Islam. It's that old no-good Jew, that old imposter Jew, that old hooked-nose, bagel-eating, lox-eating, Johnny-come-lately perpetrating a fraud, just crawled out of the caves and hills of Europe, so-called damn Jew. . . and I feel everything I'm saying up here is kosher."

@Doom_Art

This Quote isn't even from Louis Farrakhan. It's from Khalid Abdul Muhammad who was actually removed from the Nation Of Islam for not following orders and making statements like this. This statement is actually a statement on why he was removed.

The problem with the world today is that we go with hearsay and rush to judgment while spreading false information. Khalid Abdul Muhammad wasn't even in the Nation Of Islam when he said this, he was 4 years removed.

Also it is highly unfair to say all members of the Nation Of Islam are haters based on the statement of the few.

I can go in the Talmud and pull highly a huge list of incendiary quotes about lots of people, however does that mean all Jews are racists against Blacks just because of what's written in the Talmud? Or are all people of the Jewish faith racist because there may be a few that are racist?

I have a 24/7 Farrakhan radio in my sig. If you want to hear what the man speaks listen for yourself

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Canaans children shall be ugly and black

...your grandchildren's hair shall be twisted into kinks..because your lips rested at my misfortune theirs shall swell..
They shall go naked and their male members shall be shamefully elongated

Men of this race are called negroes their forefather canaan commanded them to lovd theft and fornication to be banded together in hatred of their master's and never tell the truth - Solomon Ben Isaac

Quotes like these from the Talmud were used as justification for the Transarlantic slave trade, slavery in America etc.

Solomon Ben Isaac, Rabbi Rashi, is still revered by Jewish intellectuals today. Would it be right for me to claim them all as racist because of this?

Let us be reason together. It's only through honest dialogue about our grievances that people can ever come to an understanding

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They believe in a false Imam Mahdi, so nah
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Nation of Islam is a hate group

Like real talk imagine 2 million peaceful protesters being roughed up by DC police

how do you justify that to the average person?

how does the average person see that as ok?

teepan95 posted...

They believe in a false Imam Mahdi, so nah

I believe Master Fard Muhammad is the Mahdi. Also everything the NOI has been saying all of these years is coming to pass as we speak.


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Does he and the NOI still think us white people are inherently evil and were created by an ancient mad scientist?

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2Pacavelli posted...

teepan95 posted...

They believe in a false Imam Mahdi, so nah

I believe Master Fard Muhammad is the Mahdi. Also everything the NOI has been saying all of these years is coming to pass as we speak.

Fair enough, but I don't. I believe in a different Imam Mahdi (Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian), and in that sense in sympathetic to the persecution y'all must face from other Muslims, but I wouldn't change my beliefs for yours
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teepan95 posted...

Fair enough, but I don't. I believe in a different Imam Mahdi (Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian), and in that sense in sympathetic to the persecution y'all must face from other Muslims, but I wouldn't change my beliefs for yours

No problem. You don't have change your beliefs for ours. In the end Allah knows best He settles all differences. Hes the Most Merciful, The Beneficent and Most Understanding. So I'll believe when that day comes, He'll understand why we all have the beliefs we do

Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Last day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord, and there is no fear for them, nor shall they grieve. - Quran 2:62

The NOI works with people of all Faith's. Their goal is to work to bring a better world. Even Christian's and Jews work with them. They dung discriminate and are not haters like people claim them to be

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2Pacavelli posted...

The NOI works with people of all Faith's. Their goal is to work to bring a better world.

So do we Ahmadis, dude. In the end, all Muslims strive towards the same goal: serve Allah and serve Mankind
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The Nation of Islam assassinated Malcom X and also fuck everything about them in general.

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2Pacavelli posted...

I think we all can learn from the The Nation of Islam. They've been wrongfully vilified

Tell that to Malcolm X

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Say what you want about the Nation. They never rioted or destroyed any city. They never attacked any police officers and they do not even carry guns or knives.

Something liberals, conservatives, abusive police and angry rioters can all learn from. And this is why I made this topic. Discipline is what's needed today. Righteous indignation is good, but without discipline it results in chaos. That's why I suggest we can learn from the NOI.


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Southernfatman posted...

Does he and the NOI still think us white people are inherently evil and were created by an ancient mad scientist?

I see my question being ignored...again.

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AvantgardeAClue posted...

Tell that to Malcolm X

Malcolm X wasn't assassinated killed by the NOI his assassination was done by t
J Edgar Hoovers FBI.

If the NOI was responsible certainly Elijah Muhammad would have been arrested and surely all of the Nations assets, Land Banks, Farms, etc. Would be seized in the 1960s

Tyranthraxus posted...

The Nation of Islam assassinated Malcom X and also fuck everything about them in general.

This is not true and I'll show proof in a second

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Malcolm X literally notified the police several times that the Nation of Islam was trying to kill him and they did fucking nothing.

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Nothing related to Islam should ever be allowed near a position of power.

Southernfatman posted...

I see my question being ignored...again.

The Nation of Islam believes that both the spirit of God and Devil lives in ALL of humanity. That voice in your head that tells you to do good is the voice of God speaking to you. The voice that tells you to do bad is the energy or spirit of devil speaking to you.

Man manifests both God and Devil in their actions. If a man does good they become a reflection of God. If a man does evil they become a devil. That goes for Black and White and everyone else. If a white man does good they are a reflection of God just like anyone else.

When Malcolm X, Farrakhan and Elijah Muhammad and even Muhammad Ali made statements saying "the white man is the devil" because they were speaking on the system and idea of white supremacy that runs the world and the way in which white nations have behaved historically, and behave today in dominating, destroying and pillaging the darker people of the world. Wanton destruction of life and the idea that you have the right to take resources and kill others just because you can and it all should belong to you. The idea that you have the right to conquer. Its not a statement on all white people but a statement on the mindset of white supremacy many people suffer from.

The idea that if any other group of people is doing better than you, or is ruling you that you must overthrow them. Even if the ruler is a just

The idea of racial superiority makes one a devil. The devil in the Bible and Qur'an was God's most faithful servant. However he just could not and would not bow down to Adam.

Why did he not bow down to Adam? Because Adam was made of mud, and the devil was made of fire and he felt he was superior. This arrogance, this belief that one will not submit or one is inherently better because of physical traits is what makes one a devil. That arrogance manifested in ones actions is what makes one a devil. So all those that participate willingly in the system of white supremacy are devils. All those crooked cops killing people are devils.

And many officers believe they are better than the people because they are cops, that's the behavior and thinking of a devil. If they think and behave like that they are devils.

If a Black man behaves in this way he is a devil. And Farrakhan stated this himself. Numerous times. He's even stated

No one talks aboutthat though because the government and media wants to continue separating the NOI from Black people because they rather us be dependent on welfare and handouts than work on an actual proven plan that will help us do for self.

It's also why they continue to spread these false rumors about Malcolm Xs murder when they know FBI, NYPD and others were behind it and J Edgar Hoovers own statements and files back that up. As well as statements from Malcolm Xs own family and associates. Betty Shabazz and Ilyasah Shabazz would never have reconciled with Farrakhan if they all believed he was responsible. They all say that it was the government that was responsible. So those who claim they love Malcolm, do you not believe his children and wife? Are you saying that they are liars and that you know it all. Just because the media told you to believe that?


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2Pacavelli posted...

If you take any man's words out of context you can make them look evil.

That's a large pill to swallow. It's not entirely untrue but good judgment can usually discern when someone's excerpt was designed to say something they wasn't being said and when you don't need any more to infer the point that was being made.

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2Pacavelli posted...

That' sounds nice and all, but it seems many take the more literal view and believe in the whole Yakub thing including Farrakhan. He also said us white people deserve to die.

Statements being misinterpreted and taken out of context and such only go so far when there's multiple bigoted beliefs and statements being said by the NOI.

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Southernfatman posted...

That' sounds nice and all, but it seems many take the more literal view and believe in the whole Yakub thing including Farrakhan. He also said us white people deserve to die.

Statements being misinterpreted and taken out of context and such only go so far when there's multiple bigoted beliefs and statements being said by the NOI.

Now as far as Yakub goes. The story is that he brought into creation the caucasian race via a public policy and system of selective breeding where lighter skinned people were favored over darker skinned people. Child sacrifice was used to kill darker skin babies and save lighter skinned babies until finally after 600 years the caucasian race was brought into creation. This is stated to have happened 6000+ years ago on the Island of Pelan. His followers allowed this to take place because they were lied to about the fate of their children and told their their children were born in heaven. In reality he would have his administrators kill them.

The story of Jacob in the Bible where he wrestled with an angel and where he used Magic to create white sheep from black sheep is a parable and metaphor for this event taking place. The magic represents the tricks and lies he used to get the people to follow him. Yakubs 60000 followers were the blind sheep that were led to this civilization of tricks lies and death.

The purpose of this was to manifest the recessive genes of the Original man. The first humans on the planet were Black people and they inhabited all continents.

Yakub felt that he could advance humanity to the next stage by bringing out the recessive genes of the original people and having the new people on the planet conquer the originals. The goal is for the originals to go through that trial over 6000 years and perfect themselves as better human beings fit for the new Kingdom of God. A select group of people from all races will be accepted based on their thoughts deeds and actions and submission to the Most High. The purpose of it is to push humanity forward through this 6000 year trial. That's the true story of Yakub. Whites have to fight against and defeat the idea of racial superiority and belief in world dominance that has that they were taught to do when they were created by Yakub. Blacks have to defeat the slave mentality, inferiority complex, and the dependence on others and become more productive members of society as a collective. Both these groups as a collective have to do these things, and unlearn what was taught to them for the world to become a better place.

Christian theology and Jewish theology has stories in that many would consider being racist.

Black people being cursed sons of Canaan who are inherently liars thieves and fornicators is in Jewish and Christian theology. Blacks are said to be inherently decreed by God to be slaves forever and are shamefully elongated due to Canaan looking at Noah in the Talmud. Europeans attempted to enslave Blacks for all of eternity in America due to these writings.

I don't believe all Christian's or Jews are racists due to this theology.

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2Pacavelli posted...

They all say that it was the government that was responsible. So those who claim they love Malcolm, do you not believe his children and wife? Are you saying that they are liars and that you know it all. Just because the media told you to believe that?

Malcom X's assassin is still alive, has confessed, has named accomplices.

He has since quit the Nation of Islam over his regret for being their assassin.

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Tyranthraxus posted...

Malcom X's assassin is still alive, has confessed, has named accomplices.

He has since quit the Nation of Islam over his regret for being their assassin.

Show your evidence

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2Pacavelli posted...

Show your evidence

What kind of fucking dumbass question is this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Hagan

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Tyranthraxus posted...

What kind of fucking dumbass question is this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Hagan

I think TC is a lil indoctrinated

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Tyranthraxus posted...

What kind of fucking dumbass question is this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Hagan

His affidavit states that he was never given the order to kill from Elijah Muhammad and he himself states that it was agents that roped him into the plot. The other two people that were arrested with him weren't even at the scene of the crime when it happened.

https://imgur.com/a/aP1EhvR

Get this book and you'll get closer to the truth. Or do more research on the internet. Read the FBI files of J Edgar Hoover plotting against Malcolm X. Listen to interviews from people who were their at that time or from Malcolm's family

https://youtu.be/EWd8p1Fv8G8

Malcolm Xs own assistant in the Organization of African Unity stating Malcolm X was assassinated by agents.

Who poisoned Malcolm X in Egypt? Was that the Nation too?

France prevented him from getting off the plane when he tried to visit because they didnt want him assassinated on their soil. It is impossible for the NOI to be behind all of that. It's clear that there were much bigger forces with International reach attempting to assassinate him

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2Pacavelli posted...

His affidavit states that he was never given the order to kill from Elijah Muhammad and he himself states that it was agents that roped him into the plot. The other two people that were arrested with him weren't even at the scene of the crime when it happened.

https://imgur.com/a/aP1EhvR

Get this book and you'll get closer to the truth. Or do more research on the internet. Read the FBI files of J Edgar Hoover plotting against Malcolm X. Listen to interviews from people who were their at that time or from Malcolm's family

Elijah Muhammad didn't order him to do it and I never said he did. He did it on his own (+ accomplices, all of them in the NOI). The only role the FBI had in his death is that Malcom warned them the NOI was trying to kill him and they did nothing.

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Tyranthraxus posted...

Elijah Muhammad didn't order him to do it and I never said he did. He did it on his own (+ accomplices, all of them in the NOI). The only role the FBI had in his death is that Malcom warned them the NOI was trying to kill him and they did nothing.

The accomplices were government assets. Gene Robert's Malcolm Xs own assistant appointed by the NYPD hastened his death by giving him mouth to mouth pushing air through his body while he had bullet wounds. He was there to ensure Malcolm would die.

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2Pacavelli posted...

Farrakhan doesn't hate anyone over their ethnic backgrounds. That's a misconception

Hahahahahahaha

It makes literally zero fucking sense whatsoever that a man as careful and calculating as J Edgar Hoover would rope in an untrained, unpredictable, black Muslim into a ridiculous plot to kill Malcolm X.

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Tyranthraxus posted...

Elijah Muhammad didn't order him to do it and I never said he did. He did it on his own

The NOI has a military structure. Everyone is to follow orders. You cant blame the entire Nation and everyone in it off of the actions of a man who disobeyed. It's like saying a suicide bomber represents Islam even though the Quran itself states that suicide is haram.

The Nation is filled with honest men women and children. They teach not to carry weapons not to fight, unless one tries to fight with you. They have schools all across the country with honest families working to live a better life. I just believe it's wrong to put these labels on them because of the actions of a few who were actually in violation of what the Nation of Islam is about

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Tyranthraxus posted...

It makes literally zero fucking sense whatsoever that a man as careful and calculating as J Edgar Hoover would rope in an untrained, unpredictable, black Muslim into a ridiculous plot to kill Malcolm X.

Actually it makes perfect sense because then it would be easy to blame the whole Nation of Islam. Two birds one stone

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MARKINGRAM22 posted...

Hahahahahahaha

He's not a hater

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I can find pictures of Trump smiling with a black man. Doesn't mean he isnt a racist piece of shit

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2Pacavelli posted...

So, basically, yes.

And people should also have issues with black people supposedly being the cursed children of Ham as well.

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Blue_Inigo posted...

I can find pictures of Trump smiling with a black man. Doesn't mean he isnt a racist piece of shit

Trump. Friendliest president to Muslims ever!



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Southernfatman posted...

So, basically, yes.

And people should also have issues with black people supposedly being the cursed children of Ham as well.

Do those people denounce the entire religion of Christianity and Judaism and call all Christians and Jews racist like they like people do with the NOI?

Or do they recognize and look for the good in people despite their beliefs?

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