Current Events > UCLA professor harrassed and suspended for not giving exam leniency.

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Null_Mime
06/09/20 10:05:26 PM
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A professor at UCLA has been suspended and is currently under police protection after having his life threatened by the students. He asked by those in his class for leniency in marking the exams, due to the George Floyd protest; particularly for black students. But they were refused, the professor feeling it was fair for all students to be graded equally. He is now under investigation by the UCLA for discrimination.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8404307/Professor-suspended-refusing-request-lenient-marking-black-students-assessments.html

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Billy__Beane
06/09/20 10:06:46 PM
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I side with the professor
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Odoylerules
06/09/20 10:07:13 PM
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death threats are ridiculous but he could have been kind and just delayed the exam until everyone could take it, if he didnt want to seem unfair.

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lightwarrior78
06/09/20 10:10:15 PM
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Follow the demands. Somehow it always comes down to don't make me work hard if I don't wanna, don't make me follow rules I don't wanna, and don't make me live up to anything resembling responsibilities I don't wanna.

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Blue_Inigo
06/09/20 10:11:15 PM
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Fuck him

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Masamune_DS
06/09/20 10:12:26 PM
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Billy__Beane posted...
I side with the professor

I would as well.

Blue_Inigo posted...
Fuck him

For a grade? Or figuratively?

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APM
06/09/20 10:12:35 PM
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Wow this is the world we live in huh? People are actually being asked to be graded better because of their skin color.

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Vyrulisse
06/09/20 10:13:11 PM
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CruelBuffalo
06/09/20 10:13:19 PM
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Odoylerules posted...
death threats are ridiculous but he could have been kind and just delayed the exam until everyone could take it, if he didnt want to seem unfair.
Dont think you can delay the exam. Grades are due by a certain date. I would have said if a student feels they cannot take the test I would decide on a case by case basis and they would need to speak with me 1 on 1. I also would never teach a class where the finale is the whole grade like this professor
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REMercsChamp
06/09/20 10:14:10 PM
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Fire him and put him in prison!!!!!

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GoodOlJr
06/09/20 10:14:39 PM
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Its not legally a religious holiday

Is he gunna have to work extra days so they can take selfies at a protest?
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Zikten
06/09/20 10:15:50 PM
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Billy__Beane posted...
I side with the professor

yea well I side with the student. fuck that teacher. he's probably a trump lover
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Irony
06/09/20 10:16:05 PM
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Hopefully he sues the university and the protestors

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Middle hope
06/09/20 10:16:16 PM
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Zikten
06/09/20 10:16:34 PM
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APM posted...
Wow this is the world we live in huh? People are actually being asked to be graded better because of their skin color.

we might be living in the most historic moment in black american history. they should be cut some slack.
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s0nicfan
06/09/20 10:17:31 PM
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APM posted...
Wow this is the world we live in huh? People are actually being asked to be graded better because of their skin color.

Any time there's any sort of national protesting you always get a couple of stories of students requesting things like this, or they want class credit for attending a rally, or they want to use their protesting as an independent study. It's always just people gaming the system and never a genuine request made out of a sincere need.

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Pseudomenon
06/09/20 10:18:36 PM
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Declining their request isn't the problem imo. His dickhead letter is. He can eat shit.

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CruelBuffalo
06/09/20 10:20:08 PM
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It's always just people gaming the system and never a genuine request made out of a sincere need.

Always huh? Why speak in absolutes
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ZMythos
06/09/20 10:20:24 PM
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'I am thinking that a white student from there might be possibly even more devastated by this, especially because some might think that they're racist even if they are not.

Wow lol. That professor is a dick.

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WizardPowers
06/09/20 10:20:36 PM
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You don't need to be at a protest 24/7

You can study and take an exam and still take part


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thebatz
06/09/20 10:22:13 PM
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Billy__Beane posted...
I side with the professor


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thebatz
06/09/20 10:23:45 PM
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this would be even more pathetic if the class was something like liberal arts

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DarthAragorn
06/09/20 10:25:29 PM
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WizardPowers posted...
You don't need to be at a protest 24/7

You can study and take an exam and still take part


Yeah this

It's just people reaching for a way to put off studying
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ZMythos
06/09/20 10:26:11 PM
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thebatz posted...
this would be even more pathetic if the class was something like liberal arts
Do you know how broad "Liberal Arts" is as a category?

Did you know that many universities classify mathematics, physics, biology, and chemistry as a liberal art?

You just sound anti-intellectual with this rhetoric.

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s0nicfan
06/09/20 10:30:02 PM
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It's worth pointing out for those who aren't going to actually read the article that this wasn't a black student requesting leniency from the professor due to hardships. This was a bunch of white students asking that the professor to grade black students differently in light of everything going on.
The story began when a group of students, who described themselves as 'non-black allies' of their black peers, wrote to Klein asking for him to effectively cancel the final exams for black students.

It's also worth pointing out that this was an online-only class and the professor had no idea what race anybody was.

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REMercsChamp
06/09/20 10:30:52 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
It's worth pointing out for those who aren't going to actually read the article that this wasn't a black student requesting leniency from the professor due to hardships. This was a bunch of white students asking that the professor to grade black students differently in light of everything going on.

It's also worth pointing out that this was an online-only class and the professor had no idea what race anybody was.
So what exactly are you trying to say dude

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EnragedSlith
06/09/20 10:32:26 PM
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The UCLA professor is actually suspended because he mocked the cause of some zealous student activists at a time when making comments like that are dangerous. That's the only significant thing in this whole news story. The request and him saying no are irrelevant.

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thebatz
06/09/20 10:32:29 PM
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ZMythos posted...
Do you know how broad "Liberal Arts" is as a category?

Did you know that many universities classify mathematics, physics, biology, and chemistry as a liberal art?

You just sound anti-intellectual with this rhetoric.

if you couldn't tell i was ridiculing the bs degrees and went straight into technicalities, that just shows how dense you are.

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Zeeak4444
06/09/20 10:32:43 PM
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ZMythos posted...
Wow lol. That professor is a dick.

a lot going on in that quote.

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ZMythos
06/09/20 10:33:54 PM
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thebatz posted...
if you couldn't tell i was ridiculing the bs degrees and went straight into technicalities, that just shows how dense you are.
What's a "bs" degree?

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s0nicfan
06/09/20 10:35:25 PM
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REMercsChamp posted...
So what exactly are you trying to say dude

That those details matter. One, because it puts the professor in the right when he calls them out for being unable to meet their request because he has no idea what race everybody is, and two because I would consider this a case of racism via bigotry of low expectations if these white students felt that they had to go to the professor on behalf of black students and convince the professor that black students needed extra help for being black during all of this.

This wasn't some black kid who had been impacted by these events that was reaching out to the professor out of need. This was a bunch of white kids who had convinced themselves that their black peers were somehow less capable of finishing the class than they were and wanted the Professor to give them special treatment. Which is incredibly condescending.

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REMercsChamp
06/09/20 10:35:34 PM
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ZMythos posted...
What's a "bs" degree?
See that liberal arts and crafts degree hanging on your wall?

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Politics
06/09/20 10:35:45 PM
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Good, fuck him.

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REMercsChamp
06/09/20 10:36:22 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
That those details matter. One, because it puts the professor in the right when he calls them out for being unable to meet their request because he has no idea what race everybody is, and two because I would consider this a case of racism via bigotry of low expectations if these white students felt that they had to go to the professor on behalf of black students and convince the professor that black students needed extra help for being black during all of this.

This wasn't some black kid who had been impacted by these events that was reaching out to the professor out of need. This was a bunch of white kids who had convinced themselves that their black peers were somehow less capable of finishing the class than they were and wanted to Professor to give them special treatment. Which is incredibly condescending.
Well I hope the professor gets fired and faces criminal charges

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ZMythos
06/09/20 10:36:49 PM
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REMercsChamp posted...
See that liberal arts and crafts degree hanging on your wall?

No I see a Bachelor of Science in Education on my wall, and it doesn't come with a superiority complex about "liberal arts"

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s0nicfan
06/09/20 10:36:50 PM
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REMercsChamp posted...
Well I hope the professor gets fired and faces criminal charges

You are not a clown. You are the entire circus.

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thebatz
06/09/20 10:36:58 PM
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ZMythos posted...
What's a "bs" degree?
gender studies

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ZMythos
06/09/20 10:38:10 PM
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thebatz posted...
gender studies
And what makes it bs?

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thebatz
06/09/20 10:38:55 PM
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ZMythos posted...
And what makes it bs?
how many careers can it open by itself.

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Kastrada
06/09/20 10:40:01 PM
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thebatz posted...
this would be even more pathetic if the class was something like liberal arts

.....do you not know what liberal arts means?

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ZMythos
06/09/20 10:40:24 PM
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thebatz posted...
how many careers can it open by itself.
Why does the value of a degree depend on careers or employment?

Also would you really expect this professor to respond the way he did if he was teaching a socioeconomic course like gender studies?

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ZMythos
06/09/20 10:40:47 PM
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Kastrada posted...
.....do you not know what liberal arts means?
It has "liberal" in it, so it means far left socialist propaganda.

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Kastrada
06/09/20 10:42:45 PM
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ZMythos posted...
It has "liberal" in it, so it means far left socialist propaganda.

Fun fact: I went to a bar back home after graduating from a liberal arts school. Went out with my cousin and her bar-friends were ranting about liberal arts schools promoting the liberal agenda and how it's unfair to conservative-arts colleges. That was a fun night.....

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SolidShadow3
06/09/20 10:42:48 PM
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Gonna have to side with the prof on this, what stops the people that DIDN'T protest from abusing it?

Only other way I can see it working is if they could provide proof they were there, but Cops kept stealing peoples phones and a lot of people hiding their faces for fear of being arrested later. Its tough, but one night off of protesting wasn't going to be the end of the movement.

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thebatz
06/09/20 10:45:57 PM
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ZMythos posted...
Why does the value of a degree depend on careers or employment?

Also would you really expect this professor to respond the way he did if he was teaching a socioeconomic course like gender studies?

well it's your time your putting in and with you living in america, a lot of money you're putting in tuition for said degree. wouldn't you want to get some monetary incentive for your investment.

and what i posted was a hypothetical of finding humor if this whole thing was over a class like i mentioned.
you're just over-analyzing a post

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Metua
06/09/20 10:49:56 PM
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ZMythos posted...
What's a "bs" degree?
A Bachelor of Science.

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sylverlolol
06/09/20 10:50:05 PM
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I have a feeling people aren't clicking the link. This probably wouldn't have happened if he hadn't sent that email reply out and simply said all students are still expected to participate in class.

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EndOfDiscOne
06/09/20 10:53:09 PM
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Zikten posted...
yea well I side with the student. fuck that teacher. he's probably a trump lover
Am I really late in realizing that Zikten is a joke account?

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Pseudomenon
06/09/20 11:00:30 PM
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sylverlolol posted...
I have a feeling people aren't clicking the link. This probably wouldn't have happened if he hadn't sent that email reply out and simply said all students are still expected to participate in class.

That's because of the way TC intentionally framed the story. Gotta give him credit for that. He knows how to stir up the.

But yeah, this would've been a way different situation had he not been a dickhead in that email. I would be on his side if he hadn't said the shit quoted in post 19. As the kids say, he played stupid games and won stupid prizes.

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Vivec
06/10/20 12:21:28 PM
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Illiteracy is a fucking plague on this stupid board

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