Current Events > Stop using "Separate the work from the artist". Just. STOP.

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refmon 06/10/20 10:44:58 PM #1:	Literally. Just stop this crap. I'm beyond livid at the responses from the Harry Potter thread. People are LITERALLY handwaving Trans People's complaints on the issue. Just. STOP. I won't lie, there was a time I thought this way, awhile ago, but over the years, I realized this is an extremely privileged take and all it does it help funnel money into a bigot (especially if they're still alive), and often allows for them to profit and use it to push their own agenda (ex., buying tickets and/or music CDs of Dragon Quest, 100% supports Sugiyama, who uses his position to funnel money into nationalist groups to push his bigoted agenda, rooted in xenophobia, Queerphobia, Racism, etc., and has a strong presence in the Entertainment industry and Political area). You literally cannot separate the artist from their works. Many times, like Harry Potter, the author's views translate into the work itself. It's rooted, woven, into the artists works. You cannot separate that, ever. Trying to say that, is given an open pass and completely handwaving people's complaints about these issues. Enough. is. enough. Especially on fucking Pride Month. Jesus Christ. Just. Stop. This. Mindset. --- If you read this signature, then that meant that I had control of what you read for 5 SECONDS!! <cite>refmon posted [p:940478030] in Stop using... [t:78761737]...</cite> <quote>Literally. Just stop this crap. I'm beyond livid at the responses from the Harry Potter thread. People are LITERALLY handwaving Trans People's complaints on the issue. Just. STOP. I won't lie, there was a time I thought this way, awhile ago, but over the years, I realized this is an extremely privileged take and all it does it help funnel money into a bigot (especially if they're still alive), and often allows for them to profit and use it to push their own agenda (ex., buying tickets and/or music CDs of Dragon Quest, 100% supports Sugiyama, who uses his position to funnel money into nationalist groups to push his bigoted agenda, rooted in xenophobia, Queerphobia, Racism, etc., and has a strong presence in the Entertainment industry and Political area). You literally cannot separate the artist from their works. Many times, like Harry Potter, the author's views translate into the work itself. It's rooted, woven, into the artists works. You cannot separate that, ever. Trying to say that, is given an open pass and completely handwaving people's complaints about these issues. Enough. is. enough. Especially on fucking Pride Month. Jesus Christ. Just. Stop. This. Mindset. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 06/10/20 10:46:05 PM #2:	this may be relevant: <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:940478087] in Stop using... [t:78761737]...</cite> <quote>this may be relevant: </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jiek_Fafn 06/10/20 10:47:41 PM #3:	No --- PSN: Jiek <cite>Jiek_Fafn posted [p:940478162] in Stop using... [t:78761737]...</cite> <quote>No </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Romes187 06/10/20 10:48:22 PM #4:	You can separately the art from the artist and you absolutely should and you literally cant make me not think this way lmao not that you even need to do so in this situation but dont act like your opinion means anything on this subject enough to tell us how to think you knucklehead night <cite>Romes187 posted [p:940478188] in Stop using... [t:78761737]...</cite> <quote>You can separately the art from the artist and you absolutely should and you literally cant make me not think this way lmao not that you even need to do so in this situation but dont act like your opinion means anything on this subject enough to tell us how to think you knucklehead night </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thebatz 06/10/20 10:49:31 PM #5:	--- Toronto Maple Leafs <cite>thebatz posted [p:940478238] in Stop using... [t:78761737]...</cite> <quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cornmuffins 06/10/20 10:49:38 PM #6:	Given your posting history, I have a hard time believing you're being genuine with this topic. --- Getting C's and D's, saying thanks and please. You broke the golden rule, you're staying after school. <cite>Cornmuffins posted [p:940478243] in Stop using... [t:78761737]...</cite> <quote>Given your posting history, I have a hard time believing you're being genuine with this topic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vigorm0rtis 06/10/20 10:50:50 PM #7:	Whatever. --- "Can't wait to count out your coin!" -- Bethesda, 2018 <cite>vigorm0rtis posted [p:940478307] in Stop using... [t:78761737]...</cite> <quote>Whatever. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vyrulisse 06/10/20 10:51:19 PM #8:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI8wt5soxXE --- https://imgur.com/6VeX04D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6zZ7PIk9Vc <cite>Vyrulisse posted [p:940478331] in Stop using... [t:78761737]...</cite> <quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI8wt5soxXE </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 06/10/20 10:52:03 PM #9:	Vyrulisse posted... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI8wt5soxXE <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:940478354] in Stop using... [t:78761737]...</cite> <quote>Vyrulisse posted... </cite> <quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI8wt5soxXE</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 06/10/20 10:52:18 PM #10:	refmon posted... Just. Stop. This. Mindset. No. You'll have to give a damn good reason as to why. --- https://imgur.com/oQHLBrx https://imgur.com/ah5IE8D https://imgur.com/USV84z9 https://imgur.com/PSjlohO <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:940478360] in Stop using... [t:78761737]...</cite> <quote>refmon posted... </cite> <quote>Just. Stop. This. Mindset.</quote>No. You'll have to give a damn good reason as to why. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SocialistGamer 06/10/20 10:52:47 PM #11:	Stop stealing topics from ResetERA. JUST. STOP. --- Capcom is the best developer ever! Steam ID: SocialistGamer92 <cite>SocialistGamer posted [p:940478375] in Stop using... [t:78761737]...</cite> <quote>Stop stealing topics from ResetERA. JUST. STOP.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
trappedunderice 06/10/20 10:52:52 PM #12:	Questionmarktarius posted... this may be relevant: Is that a Hitler painting <cite>trappedunderice posted [p:940478377] in Stop using... [t:78761737]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>this may be relevant: </quote>Is that a Hitler painting </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 06/10/20 10:52:59 PM #13:	the ultimate solution. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8ju_10NkGY --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:940478382] in Stop using... [t:78761737]...</cite> <quote>the ultimate solution. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8ju_10NkGY </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vigorm0rtis 06/10/20 10:53:40 PM #14:	Rika_Furude posted... No. You'll have to give a damn good reason as to why. Also, justify why I should toss all classic lit and art under the bus because the people who created it were, in all likelihood, awful by modern standards. --- "Can't wait to count out your coin!" -- Bethesda, 2018 <cite>vigorm0rtis posted [p:940478412] in Stop using... [t:78761737]...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted... </cite> <quote>No. You'll have to give a damn good reason as to why.</quote> Also, justify why I should toss all classic lit and art under the bus because the people who created it were, in all likelihood, awful by modern standards. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KyoryuCyan 06/10/20 11:01:29 PM #15:	https://www.resetera.com/threads/stop-using-separate-the-work-from-the-artist-just-stop.224215 Copied straight from ResetERA --- "I ****ed a polar bear and I still can't get you out of my head" <cite>KyoryuCyan posted [p:940478747] in Stop using... [t:78761737]...</cite> <quote>https://www.resetera.com/threads/stop-using-separate-the-work-from-the-artist-just-stop.224215 Copied straight from ResetERA </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vicious_Dios 06/10/20 11:07:07 PM #16:	--- S / K / Y / N / E Twitch/YouTube/GT: *Adzeta* <cite>Vicious_Dios posted [p:940478974] in Stop using... [t:78761737]...</cite> <quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Squall28 06/10/20 11:08:35 PM #17:	refmon posted... You literally cannot separate the artist from their works. Many times, like Harry Potter, the author's views translate into the work itself. It's rooted, woven, into the artists works. You cannot separate that, ever. Trying to say that, is given an open pass and completely handwaving people's complaints about these issues. What transphobia is in Harry Potter? --- You can't go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending. -Misattributed to CS Lewis <cite>Squall28 posted [p:940479034] in Stop using... [t:78761737]...</cite> <quote>refmon posted... </cite> <quote>You literally cannot separate the artist from their works. Many times, like Harry Potter, the author's views translate into the work itself. It's rooted, woven, into the artists works. You cannot separate that, ever. Trying to say that, is given an open pass and completely handwaving people's complaints about these issues.</quote> What transphobia is in Harry Potter? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cobra1010 06/10/20 11:10:57 PM #18:	I wonder if those people still listen to lost prophets --- Now is the hour! Riders of Rohan! Oaths you have taken, now fulfill them all, to lord and land! <cite>Cobra1010 posted [p:940479141] in Stop using... [t:78761737]...</cite> <quote>I wonder if those people still listen to lost prophets </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BakonBitz 06/10/20 11:12:54 PM #20:	Cornmuffins posted... Given your posting history, I have a hard time believing you're being genuine with this topic. And whaddya know, he wasn't. It's a copypasta. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA <cite>BakonBitz posted [p:940479208] in Stop using... [t:78761737]...</cite> <quote>Cornmuffins posted...</cite> <quote>Given your posting history, I have a hard time believing you're being genuine with this topic.</quote> And whaddya know, he wasn't. It's a copypasta.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smackems 06/10/20 11:13:07 PM #21:	Nah. Your mom --- Common sense is the most uncommon thing in the world-some dude. <cite>Smackems posted [p:940479223] in Stop using... [t:78761737]...</cite> <quote>Nah. Your mom </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masticatingman 06/10/20 11:13:14 PM #22:	A lot of amazing artists are shithole people. Popular case in point is Pablo Picasso. And who an artist is as a person shouldnt affect your enjoyment of art anyway tbh, at least if youre serious about art. --- Fervent appearing <cite>masticatingman posted [p:940479231] in Stop using... [t:78761737]...</cite> <quote>A lot of amazing artists are shithole people. Popular case in point is Pablo Picasso. And who an artist is as a person shouldnt affect your enjoyment of art anyway tbh, at least if youre serious about art. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AngelsNAirwav3s 06/10/20 11:13:43 PM #23:	Vicious_Dios posted... Wow TC --- Hello world! <cite>AngelsNAirwav3s posted [p:940479246] in Stop using... [t:78761737]...</cite> <quote>Vicious_Dios posted... </cite> <quote> </quote> Wow TC </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJKirby 06/10/20 11:15:11 PM #24:	KyoryuCyan posted... https://www.resetera.com/threads/stop-using-separate-the-work-from-the-artist-just-stop.224215 Copied straight from ResetERA everyone in that thread probably loves Dragon Quest and its music, despite the music director taking all the money he earns from his work on Dragon Quest, and funding anti-LBGT+ and holocaust denial propaganda --- Not changing this signature until Beyond Good and Evil 2 is in my hand. August 25th, 2010. <cite>SSJKirby posted [p:940479307] in Stop using... [t:78761737]...</cite> <quote>KyoryuCyan posted... </cite> <quote>https://www.resetera.com/threads/stop-using-separate-the-work-from-the-artist-just-stop.224215 Copied straight from ResetERA</quote>everyone in that thread probably loves Dragon Quest and its music, despite the music director taking all the money he earns from his work on Dragon Quest, and funding anti-LBGT+ and holocaust denial propaganda </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ser_Jaker 06/10/20 11:15:17 PM #25:	Questionmarktarius posted... this may be relevant: Baffles me how this dude never got into art school because that's pretty damn good. --- "When it's cold, and when it's dark.... The cold can obsess you....." -Per "Dead" Ohlin <cite>Ser_Jaker posted [p:940479312] in Stop using... [t:78761737]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>this may be relevant: </quote>Baffles me how this dude never got into art school because that's pretty damn good. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
radical rhino 06/10/20 11:15:17 PM #26:	Hold on buying the Harry Potter collectors edition box set. --- .____ [____]===0 . . . . Ye olde beating stick. <cite>radical rhino posted [p:940479314] in Stop using... [t:78761737]...</cite> <quote>Hold on buying the Harry Potter collectors edition box set. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
parabola_master 06/10/20 11:15:51 PM #27:	This is so conflicting to me. So many incredible authors have awful backgrounds. I remember reading La Symphonie Pastorale in French class and absolutely loving the book and learning later that Andre Gide loved to sleep with little boys in Morocco :/ I do think theres a difference here, though. Gide actually, physically did something horrible, but JK Rowling only holds those views, in her mind and, of course, publicly. But I do acknowledge that her words can instigate physical change upon our world. I just want to think deeper about those differences, and whether either are excusable for the sake of their artistic work. --- i.imgur.com/mkGoWsg.jpg i.imgur.com/mkGoWsg.jpg i.imgur.com/mkGoWsg.jpg <cite>parabola_master posted [p:940479341] in Stop using... [t:78761737]...</cite> <quote>This is so conflicting to me. So many incredible authors have awful backgrounds. I remember reading La Symphonie Pastorale in French class and absolutely loving the book and learning later that Andre Gide loved to sleep with little boys in Morocco :/ I do think theres a difference here, though. Gide actually, physically did something horrible, but JK Rowling only holds those views, in her mind and, of course, publicly. But I do acknowledge that her words can instigate physical change upon our world. I just want to think deeper about those differences, and whether either are excusable for the sake of their artistic work. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 06/10/20 11:17:43 PM #29:	Ser_Jaker posted... Baffles me how this dude never got into art school because that's pretty damn good. That's probably the least mediocre Hitler painting. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:940479418] in Stop using... [t:78761737]...</cite> <quote>Ser_Jaker posted... </cite> <quote>Baffles me how this dude never got into art school because that's pretty damn good.</quote>That's probably the least mediocre Hitler painting. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ser_Jaker 06/10/20 11:19:34 PM #30:	Also what did Harry Potter do to piss people off lately? --- "When it's cold, and when it's dark.... The cold can obsess you....." -Per "Dead" Ohlin <cite>Ser_Jaker posted [p:940479494] in Stop using... [t:78761737]...</cite> <quote>Also what did Harry Potter do to piss people off lately? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 06/10/20 11:20:26 PM #31:	Ser_Jaker posted... Also what did Harry Potter do to piss people off lately? Rowling is TERFing again. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:940479538] in Stop using... [t:78761737]...</cite> <quote>Ser_Jaker posted... </cite> <quote>Also what did Harry Potter do to piss people off lately?</quote>Rowling is TERFing again. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Current Events > Stop using "Separate the work from the artist". Just. STOP. (+) Yeah! (+)

Current Events > Stop using "Separate the work from the artist". Just. STOP.