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Zikten
06/11/20 2:34:00 PM
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https://www.vulture.com/2020/06/friends-creator-marta-kauffman-regrets-lack-of-diversity.html

she is now admitting finally that the show was way too white. and that she didn't do enough to portray other races on the show.
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HylianFox
06/11/20 2:34:31 PM
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No one ever told you life was gonna be this way

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FursonaNonGrata
06/11/20 2:34:53 PM
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What about all the homophobic jokes

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KFHEWUI
06/11/20 2:35:08 PM
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Tyranthraxus
06/11/20 2:37:57 PM
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Wondering what internet arguments with look like over who would become the theoretical worst friend now between Ross and potential black guy.

Because that's what would happen.

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Ryan__Leaf
06/11/20 2:38:29 PM
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Jesus Christ 25+ year old show. Who cares?

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Tyranthraxus
06/11/20 2:38:50 PM
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Ryan__Leaf posted...
Jesus Christ 25+ year old show. Who cares?
It's not that old is it?

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AlephZero
06/11/20 2:39:27 PM
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Petition Amazon to remove their DVDs for sale, and petition all streaming platforms to never pick it up. We need to eliminate all these racist shows from history. Burn your DVDs if you have them.

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Austin_Era_II
06/11/20 2:39:31 PM
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The show's humour sucked that's why Seinfeld was better.

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HotLap
06/11/20 2:39:35 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
It's not that old is it?

Premiered in 1994.

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Zikten
06/11/20 2:40:01 PM
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Ryan__Leaf posted...
Jesus Christ 25+ year old show. Who cares?

"we should never reflect on the past or discuss how things should have been done differently"
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The Top Crusader
06/11/20 2:40:31 PM
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Maybe George Lucas can go in and CGI the cast as different ethnicities.

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Damn_Underscore
06/11/20 2:40:47 PM
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She should apologize for its lack of quality first

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The Trent
06/11/20 2:40:59 PM
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hahahaha

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KillerKhan420
06/11/20 2:41:07 PM
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Sanford and son didn't have diversity in it and it's way better than Friends. Having diversity for diversities sake doesn't make a shoe automatically better. Dinosaurs was a show with 0 humans and it was good.

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Smashingpmkns
06/11/20 2:41:28 PM
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Basically every sitcom from the 90s was white af.
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Zikten
06/11/20 2:41:33 PM
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also btw, you will realize this as you get older but 25 years ago is not really THAT long ago, unless you are a kid
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Zikten
06/11/20 2:43:13 PM
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KillerKhan420 posted...
Sanford and son didn't have diversity in it and it's way better than Friends. Having diversity for diversities sake doesn't make a shoe automatically better. Dinosaurs was a show with 0 humans and it was good.

actually there were some humans on Dinosaurs. they had some non speaking cavemen that were treated like pets or animals in a zoo. one of the recurring jokes of the show was that the dinosaurs couldn't tell gender of humans. and they often thought the humans were the opposite gender or in one episode I think they didn't understand why 2 male cavemen in a zoo would not breed
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yemmy
06/11/20 2:44:39 PM
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Still not racist like Frazier

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radical rhino
06/11/20 2:45:04 PM
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Zikten posted...
also btw, you will realize this as you get older but 25 years ago is not really THAT long ago, unless you are a kid
Its weird. When I was a kid growing up in the 90s, the 70s disco era seemed like ancient history. But it was closer in time than the boy band era is to 2020.

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Tyranthraxus
06/11/20 2:45:20 PM
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HotLap posted...
Premiered in 1994.
Pls stop I'm so fucking old

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EmbraceOfDeath
06/11/20 2:46:22 PM
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Zikten posted...
also btw, you will realize this as you get older but 25 years ago is not really THAT long ago, unless you are a kid
Uh no, 1/3 of a human lifetime is pretty damn significant.

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Tyranthraxus
06/11/20 2:46:40 PM
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The Top Crusader posted...
Maybe George Lucas can go in and CGI the cast as different ethnicities.

*Edits out shooting of greedo entirely, he just has a stroke and falls down*

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HylianFox
06/11/20 2:47:20 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
*Edits out shooting of greedo entirely, he just has a stroke and falls down*

"Sorry about the mess"

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NotYou
06/11/20 2:49:56 PM
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The Top Crusader posted...
Maybe George Lucas can go in and CGI the cast as different ethnicities.
make Chandler Indian, Phoebe black, and Ross a Wookiee
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yusiko
06/11/20 2:52:31 PM
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they had charlie for 2 seasons played by the actress who voices lana in archer

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Ivynn
06/11/20 2:59:26 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Basically every sitcom from the 90s was white af.

Not exactly, there were also a lot of sitcoms that were black af

But then black sitcoms disappeared while white af sitcoms continued for some reason. >_>

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Caution999
06/11/20 3:00:11 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
She should apologize for its lack of quality first


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kyujo
06/11/20 3:03:17 PM
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yusiko posted...
they had charlie for 2 seasons played by the actress who voices lana in archer
Sure, her and the "morning's here" guy... Gabrielle Union was on there for a bit, and probably a few others I don't immediately recall, but they really could have used more. I didn't always like the portrayal in Seinfeld, but they had a lot more.
Ivynn posted...
Not exactly, there were also a lot of sitcoms that were black af

But then black sitcoms disappeared while white af sitcoms continued for some reason. >_>
We have blackish now, which is pretty good. I guess Insecure? Can't think of much more...

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nemu
06/11/20 3:03:55 PM
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This idea that diversity is either inherently good or bad really needs to go away. We just need a marketplace that allows for diversity without people creating hurdles for people based on specific characteristics. That anyone feels either personal shame for not being diverse enough or feels they have to virtue signal by pretending they actually care is really stupid.
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The Top Crusader
06/12/20 10:10:55 AM
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radical rhino posted...
Its weird. When I was a kid growing up in the 90s, the 70s disco era seemed like ancient history. But it was closer in time than the boy band era is to 2020.

Getting off topic here, but it weirds me out to think that the stuff playing on the Oldie's station when I was a kid riding around town in the car with my dad that seemed so super old was newer at that time than the 90's stuff I listened to in high school is now. >_>

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Lost_All_Senses
06/12/20 10:22:31 AM
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If they were really about it, they'd apologize for stealing the concept from Living Single lol.

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SocksForWoksMAX
06/12/20 10:24:12 AM
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Its not always realistic to have so much diversity though
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cjsdowg
06/12/20 10:28:24 AM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
they were really about it, they'd apologize for stealing the concept from Living Single lol.

THATS RIGHT.


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ThisGuyAreSick
06/12/20 10:29:05 AM
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The Top Crusader posted...


Getting off topic here, but it weirds me out to think that the stuff playing on the Oldie's station when I was a kid riding around town in the car with my dad that seemed so super old was newer at that time than the 90's stuff I listened to in high school is now. >_>


1999 by prince was released closer to 1999 than we are to 1999
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voldothegr8
06/12/20 11:01:11 AM
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This is fucking stupid. What about HIMYM?
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Silver Bearings
06/12/20 11:08:22 AM
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Why do I feel like one of the first things society will want to change once time travel is invented is the cast of Friends?

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ZeroX91
06/12/20 11:09:23 AM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Basically every sitcom from the 90s was white af.
Yeah Family Matters was white as shit, Martin too.

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GoodOlJr
06/12/20 11:09:24 AM
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Nothing to apologize for...
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Romes187
06/12/20 11:11:40 AM
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people are just getting dumber by the day

everyone needs to go find a hobby haha
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Romes187
06/12/20 11:12:22 AM
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And if you think every sitcom from the 90s is white as fuck

its guaranteed youre a white person who just doesnt know about all the great black sitcoms
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ZeroX91
06/12/20 11:14:15 AM
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Romes187 posted...
And if you think every sitcom from the 90s is white as fuck

its guaranteed youre a white person who just doesnt know about all the great black sitcoms
Sister sister that's another one Fresh Prince that's super f****** obvious that one on Disney with the nerdy black kid that was apparently somehow part of Sister Sister like it's been off or something I don't know

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Lost_All_Senses
06/12/20 11:14:28 AM
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Romes187 posted...
And if you think every sitcom from the 90s is white as fuck

its guaranteed youre a white person who just doesnt know about all the great black sitcoms

You remember that show where the dad would keep getting lost in daydreams, what was that? It's literally the only thing I remember.

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Romes187
06/12/20 11:16:08 AM
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hmm will need more specifics than that

one for kids which was great was My Brother and Me

that was my jam growing up
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ZeroX91
06/12/20 11:17:46 AM
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NotYou posted...
make Chandler Indian, Phoebe black, and Ross a Wookiee
In Chandler's literally the only likeable character in the show though why would you change him?

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Lost_All_Senses
06/12/20 11:21:37 AM
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Romes187 posted...
hmm will need more specifics than that

one for kids which was great was My Brother and Me

that was my jam growing up

Just looked it up. It's called Parenthood. I wish I had access to it to see how it aged.

One my favorites is definitely Bernie Macs show, you summomabitch. But that was 2000s I think.

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Dyinglegacy
06/12/20 11:26:36 AM
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Can we all just interracial breed till we are the same shade of tan? Race issues aren't going to end till we do.

Abolish racism? Become 1 race :D


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Romes187
06/12/20 11:27:11 AM
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There was definitely some quality black sitcoms for sure

i think because they werent aired on the main channels in the main time slots, it feels like less

but thats just a demographic biz decision.
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Mike_Stanton
06/12/20 11:33:33 AM
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There was no diversity on The Cosby Show, Family Matters, or the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. Typical reverse racism double standard. There won't be any white actors left if all black shows are allowed, but every other show has to be mixed.

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