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PatrickMahomes
06/11/20 8:17:02 PM
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Hear me out

What if he did truly give "notes" or "outlines" or whatever to D&D about how the series is supposed to end

And so D&D executed according to GRRM's notes

What if he saw the backlash from the show and realized, oh shit, I can't possibly end the last books like this, and is rethinking the entire ending?


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Rida_Go_To_Bed
06/11/20 8:17:48 PM
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I think that he's hoping that he just dies soon so he doesn't have to deal with it anymore

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AsteriskChamps
06/11/20 8:18:50 PM
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I think on the balance of probabilities hes probably eating
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Ranting Nord
06/11/20 8:19:53 PM
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I know he writes on some ancient Apple II or something because he doesn't like that Word puts red squiggly lines under his made up words and doesn't know that you can add those words to the "dictionary".

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DarthAragorn
06/11/20 8:20:14 PM
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No, I think he's just flat out not writing
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AvantgardeAClue
06/11/20 8:21:04 PM
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Ranting Nord posted...
I know he writes on some ancient Apple II or something because he doesn't like that Word puts red squiggly lines under his made up words and doesn't know that you can add those words to the "dictionary".

Apparently he also only types one key at a time which makes me cry when I think of how much wasted time there is

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Mezcla
06/11/20 8:21:59 PM
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he probably hasn't even started writing it. hes a LIAR

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EmbraceOfDeath
06/11/20 8:23:45 PM
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PatrickMahomes posted...
Hear me out

What if he did truly give "notes" or "outlines" or whatever to D&D about how the series is supposed to end

And so D&D executed according to GRRM's notes

What if he saw the backlash from the show and realized, oh shit, I can't possibly end the last books like this, and is rethinking the entire ending?
No. D&D didn't even follow books 4 and 5 which were complete books; why would we assume they would follow notes or outlines for later parts of the series?

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CommunismFTW
06/11/20 8:23:52 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
No, I think he's just flat out not writing


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Vortex_of_Hope
06/11/20 8:27:15 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
No, I think he's just flat out not writing


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Gakk86
06/11/20 8:32:26 PM
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He's a Jets fan, so I think he writes every time they win and don't make him depressed. At this rate he'll only have to live until he's 140 or so until he finishes the next book.

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UnholyMudcrab
06/11/20 8:32:42 PM
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Vyrulisse
06/11/20 8:35:05 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
No, I think he's just flat out not writing


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DarthAragorn
06/11/20 10:13:11 PM
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Gakk86 posted...
He's a Jets fan, so I think he writes every time they win and don't make him depressed. At this rate he'll only have to live until he's 140 or so until he finishes the next book.

Yeah except if they would consistently win he'd probably be too busy jerking off and writing shitty blog posts about how good they are to write an actual book
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Proto_Spark
06/11/20 10:17:03 PM
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I remember hearing that the ending we got for Season 8 was the ending GRRM was actually planning. Which would have been fine if it wasn't done so poorly.

GRRM also has said before that he hates seeing how people respond to what he writes, since it makes him want to change something for what the crowd wants, and with how popular Game of Thrones got with the TV show, he probably can't actually pick something.
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lilORANG
06/11/20 10:18:03 PM
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He's definitely not working on it lol.
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GrandConjuraton
06/11/20 10:20:15 PM
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He doesn't care about the series and he doesn't care about his fans. In reality, it's probably just this:

lilORANG posted...
He's definitely not working on it lol.


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MrNintendo1213
06/11/20 10:22:12 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s
06/11/20 10:23:21 PM
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Jons parents might be the only major plot point from GRRMs outline. Maybe the Mad Queen and Bran on the throne at the end, but everything else seems a lot different from the books we got so far.

And the Mad Queen would have been fine if the execution wasnt so terrible in the show, it made 0 sense

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DarthAragorn
06/11/20 10:24:14 PM
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Bad_Mojo
06/11/20 10:25:17 PM
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If you've read the books up to A Dance with Dragons, you know for a 100% fact that he didn't give D&D notes or an outline. There are far too many changes to make since to how that is where people will end up.

Even something as simple as Fake Arya being made to marry Ramsay and not Sansa, so Sansa can't do any of that Northern plot stuff that rolls into a huge clusterfuck

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UnholyMudcrab
06/11/20 10:26:06 PM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
If you've read the books up to A Dance with Dragons, you know for a 100% fact that he didn't give D&D notes or an outline. There are far too many changes to make since to how that is where people will end up.

Even something as simple as Fake Arya being made to marry Ramsay and not Sansa, so Sansa can't do any of that Northern plot stuff that rolls into a huge clusterfuck

Also literally anything involving Dorne in the show after that point
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Proto_Spark
06/11/20 10:26:08 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Jons parents might be the only major plot point from GRRMs outline. Maybe the Mad Queen and Bran on the throne at the end, but everything else seems a lot different from the books we got so far.

And the Mad Queen would have been fine if the execution wasnt so terrible in the show, it made 0 sense

I wouldn't say 0 sense, at least IMO it was more "OK I can kinda see where they were going, but this probably should've had like, 1-3 more seasons of development before it happened"
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DespondentDeity
06/11/20 10:29:16 PM
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It's over for me. I couldn't stop cackling hysterically during the final episode, it was all so ridiculous it felt like a big budget SNL parody of the episode we might have gotten if we weren't on the bad end rn. It actually kinda put into context for me that the lore is amazing and the characters are so delightful and full of personality, but the actual books themselves are pretty hot garbage and just literally not any fun to read either.

Honestly, I'd rather read the fuckin wiki then another page of this asshole's writing.

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TomNook20
06/11/20 11:55:10 PM
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SwordMaster13X
06/12/20 12:02:36 AM
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Winds of Winter is like The Chinese Democracy of Books

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