Current Events > 7.25 Minimum wage isnt fair Lower the income requirements and raise minimum wage

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1,160 a month to work. People on unemployment are getting 1,100 a week in many areas.

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It's really not that hard to find a job above minimum wage.

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She should get a better job or find a cheaper apt.

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How many jobs even start with minimum wage any more? I feel like even fast food starts people between 10-12 at this point.

Minimum wage doesnt mean livable wage ya communist

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Minimum wage is redundant. It's either going to be too high in some cities or too low in others, and every city and state already has the power to set their own minimum wage.

so is the cost of living in Texas just super low or...

cause $7.25/hour is insanely low

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$7.25 is what I got at my first job in high school 7 years ago, pretty bull shit if it never went up in all that time

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Weezy_Tha_Don posted...

so is the cost of living in Texas just super low or...

cause $7.25/hour is insanely low

It depends on state. But there are several other states which also have a 7.25 minimum wage for 2020 such as Utah, Virginia, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Wisconsin, Idaho.

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High school kids dont need more than minimum wage. Capable adults need to get a better paying job.

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scorpion41 posted...

High school kids dont need more than minimum wage. Capable adults need to get a better paying job.

You say that its incredibly easy. Especially with corona going on.

So many people live in their bubble and think their experiences are the same for everyone else.

Minimum wage should go up to a livable wage.

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sktgamer_13dude posted...

You say that its incredibly easy. Especially with corona going on.

So many people live in their bubble and think their experiences are the same for everyone else.

Minimum wage should go up to a livable wage.

No, it shouldn't. Working at an ice cream shop shouldn't allow you to own a car, pay rent and go on vacations. It is a starting point in one's life.

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Even if everyone suddenly became super motivated and put 100% of their lives into getting a better-paying job, there will still be people on the bottom rung getting paid minimum wage. The minimum wage must be a living wage.

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sktgamer_13dude posted...

You say that its incredibly easy. Especially with corona going on.

So many people live in their bubble and think their experiences are the same for everyone else.

Minimum wage should go up to a livable wage.

"Livable wage" is a myth. It's different for everyone, just like you just said.

sktgamer_13dude posted...

You say that its incredibly easy. Especially with corona going on.

So many people live in their bubble and think their experiences are the same for everyone else.

Minimum wage should go up to a livable wage.

No. This has been a thing since before the pandemic. Its very easy to find jobs that pay a livable wage...you just might have to do actual labor as opposed to making sandwiches or pushing a mop. If you are a capable human being, get off your lazy ass and go get a job that pays enough.

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Now does the whole minimum = livable account for reduced hours due to lack of available funds to pay that? Not all jobs can really afford to do that, so they would just make more stuff part time to account for that,

scorpion41 posted...

High school kids dont need more than minimum wage. Capable adults need to get a better paying job.

Dude here wants fast food places to only be open from 4-10PM.

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pegusus123456 posted...

Dude here wants fast food places to only be open from 4-10PM.

Did I say that? Im talking about those that somehow made a career out of these minimum wage service jobs and want more money. These jobs are not meant to be lifelong careers.

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scorpion41 posted...

Did I say that? Im talking about those that somehow made a career out of these minimum wage service jobs and want more money. These jobs are not meant to be lifelong careers.

Think through what you said for more than five seconds.

If only high school kids have those jobs, they'll be closed during school hours and when kids are asleep. If adults should be ashamed of having those jobs, you're going to have constant turnover and every business is going to be run like shit because no one has worked there for more than two years.

Almost nobody even in the most low skill of jobs are being paid minimum wage. Hell if a employers not paying more then 10$ in today's economy they can almost certainly forget finding anyone to fill the position.

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People who make good money just talk shit about those that dont but somebody has to do those jobs.

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PIITB415 posted...

No, it shouldn't. Working at an ice cream shop shouldn't allow you to own a car, pay rent and go on vacations. It is a starting point in one's life.

lmao for fucks sake man

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scorpion41 posted...

Did I say that? Im talking about those that somehow made a career out of these minimum wage service jobs and want more money. These jobs are not meant to be lifelong careers.

Dude thinks the only people involved in fast food places are the bottom rung burger flippers. What about the managers, the operators, the maintenence people? For the most part they have to be adults, and frequently put in a lot of time and effort into the job. You don't think they deserve more than $7.25/hr?

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scorpion41 posted...

No. This has been a thing since before the pandemic. Its very easy to find jobs that pay a livable wage...you just might have to do actual labor as opposed to making sandwiches or pushing a mop. If you are a capable human being, get off your lazy ass and go get a job that pays enough.

Bootstraps only get you so far.

Again, leave your bubble for once and join the real world. Its not incredibly easy for everyone.

Take ex-felons trying to reintegrate to society. Someone trying to put their life back on straight is going to have an incredibly hard time finding a job.

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nemu posted...

Now does the whole minimum = livable account for reduced hours due to lack of available funds to pay that? Not all jobs can really afford to do that, so they would just make more stuff part time to account for that,

And lol @ this

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Also, anyone who whines that "if minimum wage goes up, I won't be making as much in comparison": your wage should be higher too. For far too long, we've been made to break our backs for meager wages. You're being tricked by the 1% into hating the people less fortunate than you.

Where are they trying to live in Texas with a high cost of living? $1000 a month rent doesn't seem that high at least not for me.

Good luck put there Texas CE!

Annihilated posted...

"Livable wage" is a myth. It's different for everyone, just like you just said.

Which is why it should be tailored for every city.

A livable wage in Seattle is different than one in Omaha which is different than one in Tallahassee. It shouldnt be a blanket wage that works for the high cost of living areas that fuck over low cost of living areas. It should also move with inflation according the the CPI.

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sktgamer_13dude posted...

Bootstraps only get you so far.

Again, leave your bubble for once and join the real world. Its not incredibly easy for everyone.

Take ex-felons trying to reintegrate to society. Someone trying to put their life back on straight is going to have an incredibly hard time finding a job.

Not at all. Construction jobs, offshore, city jobs, etc. Even a garbage collector makes more the minimum wage AND hires ex-felons. But, going woe is me and resigning ones self to a minimum wage job is a personal choice.

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scorpion41 posted...

Not at all. Construction jobs, offshore, city jobs, etc. Even a garbage collector makes more the minimum wage AND hires ex-felons. But, going woe is me and resigning ones self to a minimum wage job is a personal choice.

Those are all jobs that destroy your body by the time you're 40. They're not lifelong careers either.

Tactical_Spork posted...

And lol @ this

If you think life is as easy as "increase the minimum wage to $X and everyone is happy," then you don't know how any kind of business works.

Prismsblade posted...

Almost nobody even in the most low skill of jobs are being paid minimum wage. Hell if a employers not paying more then 10$ in today's economy they can almost certainly forget finding anyone to fill the position.

This is correct. People making the federal minimum wage are extremely rare in the country. And even then it's still possible in low cost of living areas for two minimum wage earners to live in a $700 apartment or house and still have money left over. I know this because I used to make $13.80 paying about $675 in rent, plus utilities, phone, internet, and student loans, and still had a $220 surplus. My biggest concern was getting enough hours rather than the wage itself, and increases in minimum wage are known to reduce hours to compensate.

sktgamer_13dude posted...

Which is why it should be tailored for every city.

A livable wage in Seattle is different than one in Omaha which is different than one in Tallahassee. It shouldnt be a blanket wage that works for the high cost of living areas that fuck over low cost of living areas. It should also move with inflation according the the CPI.

Most people who argue for the minimum wage are talking about federal, as in every single state. But even on the local scale, the benefits of raising the minimum wage are dubious. It always comes with a cost of job growth and employee hours worked except for the few companies that are able absorb it, and it's usually implemented at a time when wages are rising anyway. Most companies don't even use the minimum wage as a baseline, they use the market rate, except for businesses in low income areas who are always the ones to be hurt most by an increase. So at the worst it harms the economy, and at best it has no effect on it.

Love all the people in here ignoring the fact that most good apartments require you to provide proof of income showing that you make, at minimum, triple the monthly rent. That's the way it is at mine.

sktgamer_13dude posted...

It shouldnt be a blanket wage that works for the high cost of living areas that fuck over low cost of living areas

this especially. almost all places are 1k rent unless you apply to get on a waiting list for 3-5 or more years to apply for subsidized housing (eases the pain for low income earners).
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If an apartment rent costs nearly all that you make in a month, you have no business living there.

Is this really a hard concept?

scorpion41 posted...

Not at all. Construction jobs, offshore, city jobs, etc. Even a garbage collector makes more the minimum wage AND hires ex-felons. But, going woe is me and resigning ones self to a minimum wage job is a personal choice.

Youre expecting those jobs to be in high demand everywhere. Thats literally not the case.

Again, leave your bubble.

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sktgamer_13dude posted...

Youre expecting those jobs to be in high demand everywhere. Thats literally not the case.

Again, leave your bubble.

Bruh, they really are if you actively look for them lol. Stop making excuses.

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scorpion41 posted...

Bruh, they really are if you actively look for them lol. Stop making excuses.

Do you have room in your bubble for everyone? No?

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Employers need start hiring off the street again for fair employment to happen again.
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PIITB415 posted...

Working at an ice cream shop shouldn't allow you to own a car, pay rent and go on vacations

Why not?

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Hop103 posted...

Employers need start hiring off the street again for fair employment to happen again.

Can you elaborate on this? Local businesses and franchises already accept walk-in applications, and most people have internet in their homes anyway. For those that don't, they can go to the Department of Labor where they can also file claims and do work searches there for free.

kingdrake2 posted...

this especially. almost all places are 1k rent unless you apply to get on a waiting list for 3-5 or more years to apply for subsidized housing (eases the pain for low income earners).

2 or more people bunking together under the same roof is also a option, reducing rent cost by half or more even.

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SaradaUchihaXXX posted...

If an apartment rent costs nearly all that you make in a month, you have no business living there.

Is this really a hard concept?

Consider this: a city needs to be affordable to the people who work those "lowly" jobs if you want them to be staffed.

No one is going to commute an hour to work at McDonald's. If your city makes housing unaffordable to minimum wage workers, you will not have minimum wage workers. Say goodbye to GameStop, Taco Bell, and all the luxuries built off the backs of the working class that you so enjoy.

_Rinku_ posted...

No one is going to commute an hour to work at McDonald's. If your city makes housing unaffordable to minimum wage workers, you will not have minimum wage workers. Say goodbye to GameStop, Taco Bell, and all the luxuries built off the backs of the working class that you so enjoy.

They will once McDonalds and other establishments increases their pay and benefits(in those specific locals) while others like gamestop will probabaly either close down shop or relocate.

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