Board 8 > Independent Survivor Mafia Topic 2 - Electric Boogaloo

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turbopuns3 posted...

What bolt wanted us to think:

-zombie maker starts alone but turns someone nights 0, 2, 4, 6, etc.

Reality:

-zombie maker made two zombies on night 0 and that's it

At least that is my take on it

Ah, by the extra info of Plum I thought it was that there was at least a Zombie Maker. But there is no info if they can create more zombies, I guess.

To clarify a few things to you guys that I probably should have told you. There is another player who created the zombie virus that knows who you are.

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What are you on about now, puns?

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Pendragon71037 posted...

What are you on about now, puns?

Well the trapped thing is just an old joke but basically you've shown your hand by displaying clear cognitive dissonance. Your first response to the happenings of the day showed your true colors. Why didn't you go to firefdr first? Why didn't you mention who you predicted in your first post? You kneejerk responded to getting called out instead of having your head in a space one would expect it to naturally be in if you aren't scum.

Which, let me be clear - just opening like you did alone is not entirely damning. However the fact you instantly went "oh yeah oops *fix vote*" as soon as you got called out, reveals your true nature

But don't worry, this sorry lot is terrified of quick hammers and will let you live to plea throughout the night and into tomorrow

Dude. Im an independent survivor. My goal is to survive. I cant do that if people lynch me. Honestly, I didnt even want to say who I predicted, because if Scum knew that, theyd know whether or not I was escaping today. But getting home from work and having four votes on oneself does tend to cause some panic.

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By all means!

Why firefdr besides that you will win if we lynch him?

ViolentAbacus posted...

I thought the flavor role confirmed the recruiter?

how so

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oh sorry i didn't see the post on this page

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Come to think of it, a predictor as Pendragon has claimed should basically never want to reveal who they predicted, because people won't want to help him achieve his goal and escape, right?

>_>

turbopuns3 posted...

Come to think of it, a predictor as Pendragon has claimed should basically never want to reveal who they predicted, because people won't want to help him achieve his goal and escape, right?

>_>

If anything he should have told us everyone else he predicted the past days and then used his votes to at least prove that

but alas can't do that anymore since me saying it first, now if he says it all kind of moot as to whether it's true or not

sorry

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turbopuns3 posted...

Come to think of it, a predictor as Pendragon has claimed should basically never want to reveal who they predicted, because people won't want to help him achieve his goal and escape, right?

>_>

Yeah, like I said. I didnt want to, but I kind of had to, no?
As for why him, thats literally it. I just picked a name who wasnt basically confirmed not-scum (doubting that now, obviously, but I didnt suspect Aecioo last night.)
If you want something else...what has he even done this game?

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Aecioo posted...

If anything he should have told us everyone else he predicted the past days and then used his votes to at least prove that

but alas can't do that anymore since me saying it first, now if he says it all kind of moot as to whether it's true or not

sorry

oh wait I legitimately missed your claim during the part of the day I missed yesterday

disregard this post

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Pendragon71037 posted...

Yeah, like I said. I didnt want to, but I kind of had to, no?

I mean if you'd just said "why would I tell you, then you wouldn't help me", that would track as perfect logic and I'd go "well yeah good point"

You, maybe, but what about everyone else?
Also, I blame the panic. Its the second time theres been a lynch mob on me.

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Pendragon71037 posted...

Dude. Im an independent survivor. My goal is to survive. I cant do that if people lynch me. Honestly, I didnt even want to say who I predicted, because if Scum knew that, theyd know whether or not I was escaping today. But getting home from work and having four votes on oneself does tend to cause some panic.

This on the other hand, does not track at all. Scum is not who you need to worry about knowing you're escaping...this is completely opposite of your should-be goals! If Scum knows you are escaping then they won't shoot you because you are removing yourself anyway. Scum is who you should WANT to know that you succeeded.

I suppose if you were wrong, they'd know they could shoot you. But then are you going to say you thought scum would shoot you after you have...had a lynch mob on you twice?

I think the coffin's nailed shut at this point, homies.

Does anyone know, does firefdr live in europe?

@ViolentAbacus I think you are the only person who will be available to push this phase on through. Will you please consider just taking care of it in a timely manner. We have 50% of the town already locked in with votes so nothing is changing anyway. Nobody else is getting lynched today, period.

Hammer in the name of FUN.

Hammer in the name of JUSTICE.

Hammer in the name of INDEPENDENCE.

Luckily I checked one last time before bed! But this'll be the last quick hammer I do, need to start seriously looking for scum! And trying to get my win con.

##Vote: Pendragon

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Also, pretty sure that is STOP @masterplum

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Pen died he was a zombie. Same flavor as bolt.

night actions

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Sorry for the crappy end of day. I rolled over in bed last night to check and saw the day ended.

More people won the game. The people who lost the game were sad that they were eaten instead of riding off into the sunset together.

PUNS HAS WON THE GAME. HE WAS:

MOVE MOVE MOVE. YOU HAVE REAL LIFE TO ATTEND TO. YOU ARE INDEPENDENT SURVIVOR PERSON WITH THINGS TO DO. IF A DAY ENDS WITHIN THE FIRST 6 HOURS YOU WILL ATTEMPT TO LEAVE THE FOLLOWING NIGHT. IF YOU ARE NOT KILLED YOU WILL LEAVE AND WIN. Otherwise you win if Town doesnt succumb to the virus. (like a town win normally)

SULTAN HAS WON THE GAME. HE WAS:

You are the medic guy who would save himself over other people if given the choice: INDEPENDENT SURVIVOR FIELD MEDIC. At night you can choose someone to save. If you successfully save someone then the following night you will attempt to leave the game. If you are not killed that night you leave and win. Otherwise you win if Town doesnt succumb to the virus. (like a town win normally).

WINNERS

1. HB - INDEPENDENT SURVIVOR PACIFIST
2. Chang - INDEPENDENT SURVIVOR HAMMERER
3. Puns - INDEPENDENT SURVIVOR PERSON WITH THINGS TO DO
4. Sultan - INDEPENDENT SURVIVOR FIELD MEDIC

LOSERS

1. Ben - INDEPENDENT SURVIVOR MASOCHIST
2. Bolt - INDEPENDENT SURVIVOR SCUM ZOMBIE
3. Sheep - INDEPENDENT SURVIVOR SOCIAL DISTANCE
4. IGCD - INDEPENDENT SURVIVOR MEDITATOR
5. Han - INDEPENDENT SURVIVOR SOCIAL BUTTERFLY
6. Pendragon - INDEPENDENT SURVIVOR SCUM ZOMBIE

PlayerList

1. Abacus
2. Aecioo
3. Death
4. FireFdr
5. Lea

5 Alive, 3 to lynch.

Day ends 8 PM Friday.

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Okay yeah Sultans move does appear to have saved someone, Aecioo makes more sense to save than anyone too.
Still strange that a successful doc gets to leave, but a successful cop has such a weird wincondition. But whatever, I like having the cop around some more.
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Leanansidhe posted...

I shot Han, and Aecioo was saved by Sultan, therefore there is no bones to the "Aecioo is the creator" theory. Aecioo is simply a god. I believe this confirms me too, although I have a nagging feeling I still lose, oh well. Aecioo likely has a scan on someone, so I reckon 50/50 win the game today if we want. Personally, my money is on Abacus but it could be anyone at this point tbh

I was going to ask who you shot. You're either vig or our last scum who had an extra shot but who knows. I only have pause since we've seen no scum power and if you're vig that means 3 confirmed town power

I scanned sultan for the reason I posted yesterday so its not relevant:(. And with that said I still dont feel good about abacus but I don't remember other claims and would like this day to not end in 4 hours so withholding vote for now.

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Also I wish I knew if doc save went through last night or if because he escaped he had no action but oh well thats in the past now. Just posting thoughts to post em

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Leanansidhe posted...

An extra kill for scum seems super broken when town is killing themselves by hammering lynches and such

That's kind of where I'm at, I just don't want to lose the game because I overlooked something like that so I wanted to make sure I put it out there. It makes more sense for scum to have some sort of power to be immune to scum kills so they can't accidentally eliminate themselves at night. Also assuming some sort of godfather power since flavor points at him being a human and not a zombie.

Honestly think a mass claim at this point is the best way to figure this out, and I hope all town will be honest since everything points to a 3 man scum team (the two zombies we've got) plus the last person. I understand wanting to get your individual wincons done, but the other wincon is to win with town, and that seems like the best way to go about today. Like I said I might have missed some claims at some point because this game is flying, so if any others have claimed please refresh me - others who haven't, please claim and we can work this out like a normal mafia game.

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I'll claim, might as well.

I am an independent survivor procrastinator. Basically nothing happens to me because I am a useless piece of poo. This role speaks to me.

Basically my role involves a tiebreak which I have never seen happen - hence my reserves on it in the first day when I was goofin' with Ben.

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Also, I am hurt by these accusations! But I do feel as though I referenced/hinted my wincon early enough to dissuade these rumors.

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Leanansidhe posted...

You know what? Sure. FDR it is

I'd be fine with FDR. FDR and Pen were in my most suspectful scum list!

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I've claimed day 1 since mine is completely RNG

I'm an independent survivor dice roller. I roll a d12 every night and when I get a 12 I leave.

so far I've rolled 5, 8, 2 and 9

has Death already claimed?

FDR seems to be the only one with a RNG claim too. That seems totally out of place now. (Well Aecioo less so)

Oh and btw

INDEPENDENT SURVIVOR SELFISH BASTARD
Basically I demand that everyone care about me, that two powers should target me at night (can be over time or all in the same night)
Then I make my getaway the following night. The score is 0 out of 2 so far.
I thought about faking power to get someone to target me night1, but that was just as likely to get me killed or lynched.
And then come day2, I ironically didnt want to be selfish when an actual cop had claimed.
I considered claiming yesterday. But then everyone went and hammered early.
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Besides at this point Its more likely for me to win along with town. More fun too.
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I'm going to reread this game at some point today and then post my thoughts.

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With that said though I'm leaning death pretty hard because his role requires him being targeted twice by power and there's like, no power in this game. That seems like an almost impossible wincon and would also be a way to confirm other town if say, I claimed I scanned him, he can then confirm me on the spot by knowing what his 'score' is. Seems kind of absurd.

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but I

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lol posted by mistyping

but I do like his play more than others is what I was going to say =(

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also please post your relevant flavor fdr

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So got a bunch of stuff from Day 1 where I hinted my flavor, because I'd like not to die. Also, I would lynch FDR before Death. Death seems town when I read through it.

Anyway:
ViolentAbacus posted...

I wish I were scum..

My win condition involves something I never saw happen last game!

ViolentAbacus posted...

If I could get onboard a no lynch, as long as we don't straight up vote for a no lynch.

Also, team work for the win!

changmas posted...

how exactly do you propose this and why? It requires very difficult tiebreaker rules to achieve a no lynch without voting for no lynch.

Chang knew, but didn't know :(

Unrelated, but when reading through and got to the part where puns and I argued about whether there was a doctor.. I feel vindicated now!

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Actually I need flavor from both fdr and lean. They are the only ones to claim roles but no flavor yet.

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Also, Sultan flipping doctor alleviates my suspicions on you, Aecioo. I am deeply sorry for the wrongdoings I have done. (Congrats, Sultan!)

I guess the happy person you have to try to find is the one who caused the outbreak?

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I'm pretty sure I know who scum is but I'd like all info first because I'm confident if we mislynch today I'm gone

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Aecioo posted...

I'm pretty sure I know who scum is but I'd like all info first because I'm confident if we mislynch today I'm gone

I'm rolling with you. I'd lean more towards FDR personally, but do want an actual flavor claim from both.

Though Lea's disappointment from the first day still sits with me.

That being said, I will not complain if it takes a long time to lynch/ if the votes are more spread out.

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I feel it cant be Lea for the simple fact that Sultan apparently successfully protected someone while Lea still shot Han.
And trust me I dont like my wincon either. But this is why I wondered if scum had a roleblocker or something, since that (theoretically) would also count towards my total.
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