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N3xtG3nGam3r
06/14/20 10:54:46 PM
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If i was a black guy and was going to end my life, this would be a clever way to do it, to send a message and make people think. Especially with everything escalating the last few weeks. Doing so could definitely help push the movement forward more. In a good or bad way is up for discussion, but idk...

Hopefully it can be determined if it was really a suicide or not, but i really hope it was. The last thing this country needs is a serial killer or killer(s), hanging black people from trees. If someone did that to him--and its a white guy? Jesus christ... NY will literally probably go nuclear.

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MaverickXeo
06/14/20 10:56:01 PM
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ThisGuyAreSick posted...
With what's going on right now, the last place any black person would decide to hang themselves from is from a tree. They know the implications of that. Now imagine that happening multiple times within the same week.

Fuck off with that suicide bullshit.

...Which is why I believe an act of public suicide such as that would be very monumental in their cause. Like I said, if a person felt they were worthless in life, they may attempt to create change in death.

Once again, it is rare but possible they are suicides.

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MaverickXeo
06/14/20 10:56:54 PM
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N3xtG3nGam3r posted...


Hopefully it can be determined if it was really a suicide or not, but i really hope it was. The last thing this country needs is a serial killer or killer(s), hanging black people from trees. If someone did that to him--and its a white guy? Jesus christ... NY will literally probably go nuclear.

I agree - hopefully it can be determined one way or another - it is still depressing it got to this though.


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ThisGuyAreSick
06/14/20 10:57:18 PM
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With what is going on, perhaps these individuals felt it was the 'best' way to go to create a political statement or become martyrs.


Three different victims came up with the exact same conclusion that they should become "martyrs" to fuel race issues in the opposite direction. Okay.

Fuck off.
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Sewage
06/14/20 10:57:27 PM
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If I may play devils advocate, it's hard to hang someone without assaulting them or drugging them so they can't fight back. If they have no defensive wounds or knock out drugs in their system, then what other option is it besides suicide?
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Esrac
06/14/20 10:57:58 PM
#56:


I wonder if it was a serial killer or inspired, emboldened copycat.

Or weirdly symbolic suicide, but that seems unlikely.
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MaverickXeo
06/14/20 10:58:33 PM
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ThisGuyAreSick posted...
Three different victims came up with the exact same conclusion that they should become "martyrs" to fuel race issues in the opposite direction. Okay.

Fuck off.

They were not at the same time, were they?

Once again - this shows the severe bias on this site - one's opinions are fact and they cannot be disputed. The lack of debate or discussion is disturbing.

I am NOT saying they DID commit suicide, only that it is a possibility - I shouldn't have to continually state this...

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MaverickXeo
06/14/20 10:59:33 PM
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Sewage posted...
If I may play devils advocate, it's hard to hang someone without assaulting them or drugging them so they can't fight back. If they have no defensive wounds or knock out drugs in their system, then what other option is it besides suicide?

One of the points being missed here. I'd like to know for sure if there were any toxins in their systems, any wounds that led up to the hanging, or what was the actual cause of death.

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EarlWallingford
06/14/20 11:00:59 PM
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MaverickXeo posted...
If this was at me - I am aware of the significance. With what is going on, perhaps these individuals felt it was the 'best' way to go to create a political statement or become martyrs.

That said, I am NOT saying 100% that they committed suicide. I am merely stating it was entirely possible. Rare, but possible.

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DespondentDeity
06/14/20 11:04:33 PM
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Suicide is a largely white trend.

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monkmith
06/14/20 11:04:48 PM
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MaverickXeo posted...
They were not at the same time, were they?

Once again - this shows the severe bias on this site - one's opinions are fact and they cannot be disputed. The lack of debate or discussion is disturbing.

I am NOT saying they DID commit suicide, only that it is a possibility - I shouldn't have to continually state this...
he obviously just wants to paint you as a racist, you're wasting your time.

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boxington
06/14/20 11:05:04 PM
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one of the victims apparently had blood on his shirt, though no visible wounds, so it could have come from someone else:

Further, the familys statement said, Harsch was found with blood on his shirt, although investigators reported no signs of a struggle and no open wounds.

https://www.thecut.com/2020/06/what-we-know-about-robert-fuller-and-malcolm-harschs-deaths.html

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Jiek_Fafn
06/14/20 11:08:22 PM
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DespondentDeity posted...
Suicide is a largely white trend.
This
I googled some statistics. Black folks commit suicide at about half the rate of white folks. Plus being a minority and all they're pretty statistically unlikely to even compose that many suicides in the first place.

This seems pretty suspicious to say the least. The odds of this many very similar suicides in this manner is pretty low.

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Tenlaar
06/14/20 11:08:50 PM
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It's certainly not outside the realm of possibility that these were murders set up to look like suicides, but it's just ignorant to act like public suicides aren't a thing. Somewhere around 15 to 20% of men who hang themselves do it either in a public place or somewhere out in nature.
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Zikten
06/14/20 11:11:21 PM
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Tenlaar posted...
It's certainly not outside the realm of possibility that these were murders set up to look like suicides, but it's just ignorant to act like public suicides aren't a thing. Somewhere around 15 to 20% of men who hang themselves do it either in a public place or somewhere out in nature.

What are the odds 3 black men all choose to kill themselves in a way that black community sees as taboo, and this all just happens to occur right when the entire nation is up in arms about black peoples rights in regards to the police
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MaverickXeo
06/14/20 11:11:33 PM
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Tenlaar posted...
It's certainly not outside the realm of possibility that these were murders set up to look like suicides, but it's just ignorant to act like public suicides aren't a thing. Somewhere around 15 to 20% of men who hang themselves do it either in a public place or somewhere out in nature.

Agreed. What is interesting is apparently there were no signs of struggle. A person being hanged is going to most likely fight back - the blood on the one individual's shirt could be monumental in telling what happened.

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Annihilated
06/14/20 11:12:33 PM
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Tenlaar posted...
It's certainly not outside the realm of possibility that these were murders set up to look like suicides, but it's just ignorant to act like public suicides aren't a thing. Somewhere around 15 to 20% of men who hang themselves do it either in a public place or somewhere out in nature.

If it were me personally, I don't have anything in my apartment to tie myself to (pretty sure the ceiling fan would rip out), so the only place I could do it is outside. Probably from a tree or a street lamp, or a balcony. Another thing to consider is I live alone so nobody would be able to find me, and if I had family I probably wouldn't want them to find me like that.
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pikachupwnage
06/14/20 11:14:49 PM
#69:


Bananana posted...
You think 3 black men coincidentally decided to hang themselves in public?

If it happened in private or at places known for suicides I could buy it.

But seems pretty high chance there is some foul play here. Racism motivated foul play at that.

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ThisGuyAreSick
06/14/20 11:15:30 PM
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MaverickXeo posted...


Agreed. What is interesting is apparently there were no signs of struggle. A person being hanged is going to most likely fight back - the blood on the one individual's shirt could be monumental in telling what happened.


Blood on a shirt is not a sign of a struggle?

Lmfao
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Tenlaar
06/14/20 11:15:49 PM
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Zikten posted...
What are the odds 3 black men all choose to kill themselves in a way that black community sees as taboo, and this all just happens to occur right when the entire nation is up in arms about black peoples rights in regards to the police
I don't know, I'm not a mental health professional and I have no idea how to figure the odds of something like that when you're looking at a population of over 20 million during societal upheaval. But what I do know is that men hanging themselves in general has been studied for some time, and easily 15 to 20% or more of men hanging themselves happens in what would be considered a public place, so treating somebody hanging themselves in public as being an inherently suspicious thing that never happens seems to be borne out of ignorance.
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Dathrowed1
06/14/20 11:16:43 PM
#72:


Solid Snake07 posted...
Funny how the south gets labeled as the racist shithole of the country but black men are literally being hung from trees in Los Angeles and NYC in the year 2020
Why is nobody talking about this.

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MaverickXeo
06/14/20 11:17:21 PM
#73:


ThisGuyAreSick posted...
Blood on a shirt is not a sign of a struggle?

Lmfao

It was stated that it wasn't his blood, nor could they apparently find any wounds on him that would've been where the blood came from. That is very odd.

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One_Day_Remains
06/14/20 11:17:23 PM
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Annihilated posted...


If it were me personally, I don't have anything in my apartment to tie myself to (pretty sure the ceiling fan would rip out), so the only place I could do it is outside. Probably from a tree or a street lamp, or a balcony. Another thing to consider is I live alone so nobody would be able to find me, and if I had family I probably wouldn't want them to find me like that.


There are numerous things that people tie themselves to in the house besides the ceiling fan for hangings, but I'm not going to elaborate on them in case the mods get some dumb idea that I'm encouraging you to do something.
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pikachupwnage
06/14/20 11:17:26 PM
#75:


MaverickXeo posted...
Agreed. What is interesting is apparently there were no signs of struggle. A person being hanged is going to most likely fight back - the blood on the one individual's shirt could be monumental in telling what happened.

They may have been killed or rendered unconscious and then hanged afterwards.


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One_Day_Remains
06/14/20 11:18:33 PM
#76:


Dathrowed1 posted...

Why is nobody talking about this.


Cause racist shit happens everywhere. What exactly is there to talk about
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DarthAragorn
06/14/20 11:19:05 PM
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pikachupwnage posted...
MaverickXeo posted...
Agreed. What is interesting is apparently there were no signs of struggle. A person being hanged is going to most likely fight back - the blood on the one individual's shirt could be monumental in telling what happened.

They may have been killed or rendered unconscious and then hanged afterwards.


If they were murdered then hanged that would be extremely easy to detect I'm pretty sure. As would any method of rendering them unconscious.

Which is to say that these should be investigated and if no signs of those are found it's almost certainly just a suicide.
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One_Day_Remains
06/14/20 11:19:22 PM
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MaverickXeo posted...


Agreed. What is interesting is apparently there were no signs of struggle. A person being hanged is going to most likely fight back - the blood on the one individual's shirt could be monumental in telling what happened.


Uh, you do realize that someone can be knocked unconscious and then hanged, right?
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MaverickXeo
06/14/20 11:19:26 PM
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pikachupwnage posted...
They may have been killed or rendered unconscious and then hanged afterwards.

That would probably be the only way for it to occur - but there has been nothing shared that indicate that happening (yet). We will have to wait and see.

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MaverickXeo
06/14/20 11:20:03 PM
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One_Day_Remains posted...
Uh, you do realize that someone can be knocked unconscious and then hanged, right?

There would be signs of that happening - bruising, bleeding, drugs in system, etc.

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smoke_break
06/14/20 11:20:34 PM
#81:


ImAMarvel posted...
I'm so fucking glad I don't live in NYC. =/

This shit is scary as hell.
A false sense of security can be dangerous. It happened in NYC but a black man isn't safe anywhere in the United States right now.

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Inferno Dive Dragoon
06/14/20 11:22:44 PM
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Yeah... this strikes me as highly suspect.
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Fam_Fam
06/14/20 11:24:01 PM
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MaverickXeo posted...
There would be signs of that happening - bruising, bleeding, drugs in system, etc.

and how do you know there wasn't?
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MaverickXeo
06/14/20 11:26:02 PM
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Fam_Fam posted...
and how do you know there wasn't?

I am going by what is being shared by investigators. There could indeed be signs - but we can't assume there are simply because it 'feels' better to assume that. We simply cannot confirm nor deny the existence of something we are unable to see first hand.

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BettyWhite
06/14/20 11:26:13 PM
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An autopsy should reveal a lot of information.

It's pretty damn hard to hang someone without them putting up a fight. Signs of a struggle will be evident.. Epithelials should be recoverable from underneath the deceased's nails. The ligature marks will even show if he was dragged with the rope around his neck or anything other than the simple downward force of a standard suicide.

If there wasn't a struggle the dude would have had to be drugged or have the shit kicked out of him. So toxicology would determine whether or not the former occured. While the latter can even be easily proven by a simple examination.

I'm not a professional or anything.. I just watch a lot of crime scene investigation and coroner shit.


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ThisGuyAreSick
06/14/20 11:28:32 PM
#86:


MaverickXeo posted...


It was stated that it wasn't his blood, nor could they apparently find any wounds on him that would've been where the blood came from. That is very odd.


So what you're saying is

Signs of struggle were detected
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MaverickXeo
06/14/20 11:30:18 PM
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ThisGuyAreSick posted...
So what you're saying is

Signs of struggle were detected

I'm saying there is evidence of signs of struggle. If he has no wounds, no drugs in his system, then chances are it could be very coincidental. Blood on someone's shirt doesn't automatically prove they were attacked but it is more likely than not having that blood on their shirt.

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BignutzisBack
06/14/20 11:33:59 PM
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If I was a black person who lives in a rural part of a red state I would start livestreaming every time I stepped foot outside. Shit is terrifying, first they had to be scared of police and now we have Billy Bob vigilantes roaming the streets.

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DarthAragorn
06/14/20 11:34:53 PM
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BignutzisBack posted...
If I was a black person who lives in a rural part of a red state I would start livestreaming every time I stepped foot outside. Shit is terrifying, first they had to be scared of police and now we have Billy Bob vigilantes roaming the streets.

Noted red states New York and California
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MaverickXeo
06/14/20 11:35:14 PM
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BignutzisBack posted...
If I was a black person who lives in a rural part of a red state I would start livestreaming every time I stepped foot outside. Shit is terrifying, first they had to be scared of police and now we have Billy Bob vigilantes roaming the streets.

Has that ever changed though?

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apocalyptic_4
06/14/20 11:37:09 PM
#91:


MaverickXeo posted...


Shut the fuck up

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Tyranthraxus
06/14/20 11:41:39 PM
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This is all starting to look really suspicious.

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MaverickXeo
06/14/20 11:41:47 PM
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apocalyptic_4 posted...
Shut the fuck up

I am being real. Minorities are targeted. Despite the progress being made, minorities are still at risk - hence the whole BLM movement.

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Monolith1676
06/14/20 11:43:15 PM
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Some conspiracy theroists on CE today.

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ThisGuyAreSick
06/14/20 11:44:06 PM
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MaverickXeo posted...


I am being real. Minorities are targeted. Despite the progress being made, minorities are still at risk - hence the whole BLM movement.


This is concern trolling to the max
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MrMallard
06/14/20 11:44:35 PM
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And the ALM shitheads say that racism is dead. When confronted with a population that exposes the prejudice and dehumanisation they experience in their daily lives, racists go right back to lynching.

It's almost like they're trying to say "if you think things are bad now, we're going to go old school and show you what suffering really is".

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dave_is_slick
06/14/20 11:45:47 PM
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One was found in Palmdale. 15 minutes from my house, apparently. Supposedly suicide but the family ain't buying it.

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Guns_of_Verdun
06/14/20 11:57:15 PM
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Wow @ people claiming all of these are suicides.

Do you know anything about American history? A black dude is not going to hang himself from a tree, let alone 3 of them.

WTF "message" do you even think they would be trying to send? Because the message is a direct threat to black people.

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smoke_break
06/14/20 11:59:43 PM
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dave_is_slick posted...
One was found in Palmdale. 15 minutes from my house, apparently.
Be safe, man.

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Dathrowed1
06/15/20 12:02:04 AM
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BignutzisBack posted...
If I was a black person who lives in a rural part of a red state I would start livestreaming every time I stepped foot outside. Shit is terrifying, first they had to be scared of police and now we have Billy Bob vigilantes roaming the streets.
In the rural towns of Los Angeles and New York City

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