Current Events > Germany discovers 'secret' pedophilia project going for 30+ years

(+) Yeah! (+)

"Secret" because it was a government run project that I guess nobody knew about. Apparently a report was submitted in 2016 but nobody cared and its just now coming to public light.

https://amp.dw.com/en/berlin-authorities-placed-children-with-pedophiles-for-30-years/a-53814208

The 'Kentler Project' in West Berlin routinely placed homeless children with pedophile men, assuming they'd make ideal foster parents. A study has found the practice went on for decades.

Starting in the 1970s psychology professor Helmut Kentler conducted his "experiment." Homeless children in West Berlin were intentionally placed with pedophile men. These men would make especially loving foster parents, Kentler argued.

A study conducted by the University of Hildesheim has found that authorities in Berlin condoned this practice for almost 30 years. The pedophile foster fathers even received a regular care allowance.

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what

the

fuck

Germany

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I mean, uhhhhh

I absolutely respect them for pushing the boundaries of accepting non-offending pedophiles as members of society. I big support the sentiment behind some of this, but uhhhhh

I don't think this is it chief

Abort mission
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s0nicfan posted...

Helmut Kentler conducted his "experiment." Homeless children in West Berlin were intentionally placed with pedophile men. These men would make especially loving foster parents, Kentler argued.

so Helmut was a pedo...got it.

this is catholic church levels of heinous

This is disgusting. Somewhere, an ethics committee has a lot to answer for
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Theres a topic up about this, and its not just now becoming public, or at least not within the country

Medussa posted...

the world: man, the USA is really going crazy right now, huh?
Germany: Halte mein Bier

Yeah, something that ended two decades ago is def competing with the USAs current shittiness

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Timohtep posted...

I mean, uhhhhh

I absolutely respect them for pushing the boundaries of accepting non-offending pedophiles as members of society. I big support the sentiment behind some of this, but uhhhhh

I don't think this is it chief

Abort mission

Nah, bruh. Actively offending or not, pedos need to be expunged.

Timohtep posted...

I mean, uhhhhh

I absolutely respect them for pushing the boundaries of accepting non-offending pedophiles as members of society. I big support the sentiment behind some of this, but uhhhhh

I don't think this is it chief

Abort mission

Sus post

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Vivec posted...

Yeah, something that ended two decades ago is def competing with the USAs current shittiness

the fact that it's (hopefully) been over for so long was the only reason I was remotely comfortable making a stupid joke at all. but it's too close to the line for me, regardless. I deleted it, and would appreciate if you would delete the quote, too.

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Esrac posted...

Timohtep posted...

I mean, uhhhhh

I absolutely respect them for pushing the boundaries of accepting non-offending pedophiles as members of society. I big support the sentiment behind some of this, but uhhhhh

I don't think this is it chief

Abort mission

Nah, bruh. Actively offending or not, pedos need to be expunged.

No. If you're attracted to kids and are truly committed to bettering yourself and have never/will never touch a child, you have 100% rights to continue living. You cannot criminalize thoughts.

Just because you've fantasized about what it would be like to commit a crime doesn't mean you should be prosecuted.
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Timohtep posted...

No. If you're attracted to kids and are truly committed to bettering yourself and have never/will never touch a child, you have 100% rights to continue living. You cannot criminalize thoughts.

Just because you've fantasized about what it would be like to commit a crime doesn't mean you should be prosecuted.

Nah. Expecting a pedophile to get over their sexuality and not try fucking a kid is no different than people expected homosexuals to get over their sexuality. It is an unrealistic expectation.

There is no such thing as a non-offending pedophile. Their pedophilic urges are an immutable characteristic. Their existence is an offense that should be purged.

Esrac posted...

Timohtep posted...

No. If you're attracted to kids and are truly committed to bettering yourself and have never/will never touch a child, you have 100% rights to continue living. You cannot criminalize thoughts.

Just because you've fantasized about what it would be like to commit a crime doesn't mean you should be prosecuted.

Nah. Expecting a pedophile to get over their sexuality and not try fucking a kid is no different than people expected homosexuals to get over their sexuality. It is an unrealistic expectation.

There is no such thing as a non-offending pedophile. Their pedophilic urges are an immutable characteristic. Their existence is an offense that should be purged.

Yeah that sounds pretty fucked up to me so I'm gonna big disagree.

No one who hasn't committed any crime deserves a sweeping death penalty and I will fight anyone about it.

(Obviously any molester gets what's coming to them )
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Timohtep posted...

Yeah that sounds pretty fucked up to me so I'm gonna big disagree.

No one who hasn't committed any crime deserves a sweeping death penalty and I will fight anyone about it.

(Obviously any molester gets what's coming to them )

Pedophiles will eventually offend. It's not a matter of if, it's when. And mostly likely already have. Whether they diddled their nieces and nephews, little siblings, or watch kiddie porn.

Like I said, expecting a pedophile to just go through life without ever indulging in their sexual desires is as unreasonable and unrealistic as expecting homosexuals to go through their lives without ever doing it. The difference is homosexuals' sexuality doesn't generally involve raping little kids.

Letting pedophiles join society is just going to entice them.

That's why we need to expand social services for that kind of thing. Therapies and counseling can do wonders for a person struggling with this. People like you who refuse to see people who have COMMITTED NO CRIMES as anything but literal monsters are spouting all this rhetoric that even non-offending pedophiles must die, which only drives then deeper underground. If there were resources available to these people, they may actually have a fighting chance of being a productive member of society despite their very serious and unfortunate flaws.

If a man is attracted to kids but is told by society his whole life that if he tells literally anyone so he can work through his frustrations, his life will be ruined and he'll probably die, that's an awful lot of fucking stress and 100% does not help in making sure that person is fucking stable, and WON'T diddle kids.

These people need therapy and counseling and we need to encourage them to seek it instead of going directly to "kill all of them". That only makes the problem worse.
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If people think all countries ain't doing weird stuff then you just looking to be surprised. I can't imagine what a country like America does all the the time. With concern to Germany. Absolutely disgusting, chances are there were higher ups that's I'll never get touched over any investigations. And life moves on.

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Esrac posted...

Nah. Expecting a pedophile to get over their sexuality and not try fucking a kid is no different than people expected homosexuals to get over their sexuality. It is an unrealistic expectation.

There is no such thing as a non-offending pedophile. Their pedophilic urges are an immutable characteristic. Their existence is an offense that should be purged.

so are males' sexual urges an immutable characteristic that they will act upon even against consent given enough time?

Yeah comparing pedophilia with homosexuality and implying that men will rape if they cant have a willing partner is pretty fucking yikes

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Did the study ever come to any conclusion or findings?

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Houston posted...

Did the study ever come to any conclusion or findings?

Yeah I'm curious as well <_<

I can't imagine they were good
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Houston posted...

Did the study ever come to any conclusion or findings?

pedophiles love adopting children? most evil study ever.

Timohtep posted...

That's why we need to expand social services for that kind of thing. Therapies and counseling can do wonders for a person struggling with this. People like you who refuse to see people who have COMMITTED NO CRIMES as anything but literal monsters are spouting all this rhetoric that even non-offending pedophiles must die, which only drives then deeper underground. If there were resources available to these people, they may actually have a fighting chance of being a productive member of society despite their very serious and unfortunate flaws.

If a man is attracted to kids but is told by society his whole life that if he tells literally anyone so he can work through his frustrations, his life will be ruined and he'll probably die, that's an awful lot of fucking stress and 100% does not help in making sure that person is fucking stable, and WON'T diddle kids.

These people need therapy and counseling and we need to encourage them to seek it instead of going directly to "kill all of them". That only makes the problem worse.

"Reparative therapy" doesn't work. No amount of talking it out is going to make them not thirsty for little kids.

Vivec posted...

Yeah comparing pedophilia with homosexuality and implying that men will rape if they cant have a willing partner is pretty fucking yikes

I haven't done either of those.

Esrac posted...

"Reparative therapy" doesn't work. No amount of talking it out is going to make them not thirsty for little kids.

Speaking from experience? You used to be a heavy 8-Chan defender.

PBusted posted...

Lmao

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Y'all are arguing about non-offending pedophiles and shit but the article says that the guy in charge believed sexual contact between adults and children was harmless. So he wasn't exactly banking on these dudes not fucking the kids, he just figured it was nbd

What's the German word for yikes?

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PBusted posted...

Speaking from experience? You used to be a heavy 8-Chan defender.

8chan was a platform where anyone could make any board about anything. Some people using it for kiddie porn is incidental.

I defended the existence of 8chan, but I had also acknowledged that there were a couple boards on there that enabled pedophilia. If I recall, my exact words regarding one of those boards was "if that isn't child porn, it is as close to it as you can possibly get to it".

By all means, I'd be happy to see law enforcement confine and put down those particular posters.

eston posted...

Y'all are arguing about non-offending pedophiles and shit but the article says that the guy in charge believed sexual contact between adults and children was harmless. So he wasn't exactly banking on these dudes not fucking the kids, he just figured it was nbd

What's the German word for yikes?

Which makes it even odder that Tim felt the need to support this in any way

Huch! Aber es variiert wahrscheinlich.

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Vivec posted...

eston posted...

Y'all are arguing about non-offending pedophiles and shit but the article says that the guy in charge believed sexual contact between adults and children was harmless. So he wasn't exactly banking on these dudes not fucking the kids, he just figured it was nbd

What's the German word for yikes?

Which makes it even odder that Tim felt the need to support this in any way

Huch! Aber es variiert wahrscheinlich.

Did you guys not see the parts of my post where I condemned what they did lmao
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Vivec posted...

Which makes it even odder that Tim felt the need to support this in any way

Huch! Aber es variiert wahrscheinlich.

"We should allow pedophiles to join society and give them therapy" is just a couple steps away from "we should accept pedophiles as they are."

Esrac posted...

8chan was a platform where anyone could make any board about anything. Some people using it for kiddie porn is incidental.

I defended the existence of 8chan, but I had also acknowledged that there were a couple boards on there that enabled pedophilia. If I recall, my exact words regarding one of those boards was "if that isn't child porn, it is as close to it as you can possibly get to it".

By all means, I'd be happy to see law enforcement confine and put down those particular posters.

They should also confine and put down all the white supremacists, transphobes, and incels and anyone who enable them on there as well because itd be only a matter of time before they killed someone too.

Esrac posted...

Vivec posted...

Which makes it even odder that Tim felt the need to support this in any way

Huch! Aber es variiert wahrscheinlich.

"We should allow pedophiles to join society and give them therapy" is just a couple steps away from "we should accept pedophiles as they are."

"We should literally murder an entire group of people based on how their brain works" is a small step away from "we should literally murder our political opposition. We're in power so we can decide what thoughts our citizens are allowed to have"

Fuck all the way off with trying to prosecute thought crime.
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I can't think of a faster way to get yourself not reelected than to introduce a bill or measure to increase funding for social services to help pedophiles.

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Absolutely disgusting

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How common do you suppose it is for someone who has never offended to become a documented pedophile

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A few years ago I watched a documentary on the legalization of pornography in Denmark (first country to do so, I believe) and apparently it was legal for a few years before the government, and I guess people in general, realized, that they should probably put in a caveat that it would only be legal with adults. There were some psychologists or some such of the time, defending the practice as it created an outlet for predators to stimulate themselves rather than attack children.

I'm just amazed that you could logic yourself into such a position.
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PBusted posted...

They should also confine and put down all the white supremacists, transphobes, and incels and anyone who enable them on there as well because itd be only a matter of time before they killed someone too.

This is an exceptionally dumb post. Those are not immutable characteristics in the way pedophilia is.

Not to suggest it's easy, but you can talk a white supremacist out of being a white supremacist and you can, theoretically, get an incel laid. But no amount of therapy, conversation, counseling, etc
is going to make a pedophile stop being a pedophile.

Edit: That said, if you want the government to round up and deal with actual neo-Nazis, then I can get behind that. They are as much a traitor to the US as Confederates.

Esrac posted...

This is an exceptionally dumb post. Those are not immutable characteristics in the way pedophilia is.

Not to suggest it's easy, but you can talk a white supremacist out of being a white supremacist and you can, theoretically, get an incel laid. But no amount of therapy, conversation, counseling, etc
is going to make a pedophile stop being a pedophile.

Edit: That said, if you want the government to round up and deal with actual neo-Nazis, then I can get behind that. They are as much a traitor to the US as Confederates.

Uh, yeah? They choose to be like that which is even worse. It says a lot about you that you openly support unhealthy and dangerous communities that foster hatred and violence while saying mentally ill people who havent committed any crimes should be executed.

Although Im pretty sure this a Rika_Furude situation here.

Anyone who is outraged by this and is not equally outraged that Roman Polanski, Les Wexner, Ghislaine Maxwell, Alan Dershowitz, and Prince Andrew arent locked up needs to pull his/her head out of his/her ass:

https://youtu.be/Hkh86BgsQKg

https://youtu.be/7pLguHT8e4c

https://youtu.be/jl0dDbe63Oc

https://youtu.be/0z0dlLYgzYA

https://youtu.be/4rycBu2aaBY

https://youtu.be/M-7vFi3IhiY

https://youtu.be/4Z2CQOWaTpc
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