Current Events > The 'half your age plus 7' rule is arbitrary and stupid

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Anyone over the age of 18 should be able to date or fuck anyone else over the age of 18 they want(not counting: shit like incest, people with mental disabilities severe enough for them to be considered unable to consent) because both parties are consenting adults and are capable of making their own choices

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Just because something is legal doesnt mean its socially acceptable.

You could dip your Reeses peanut butter cups in mayonnaise if it struck your fancy. Nobody is going to stop you.

But we will judge you. >_>

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TheGreatGeno6 posted...

capable of making their own choices

xd

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Plus 7?
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AlisLandale posted...

Just because something is legal doesnt mean its socially acceptable.

You could dip your Reeses peanut butter cups in mayonnaise if it struck your fancy. Nobody is going to stop you.

But we will judge you. >_>

Who cares about judgemental people? My girl is 8 years younger than me(27 and 19) and people outside of our friend group make comments all the time and it doesnt affect us. Because believe it or not, I did not hold her up at gunpoint forcing her to be with me, in fact she perused me. If that bothers people then that's their problem and not ours

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If anything, the age of consent should be higher

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PickleRick2018 posted...

Plus 7?

The bullshit formula that you shouldn't fuck anyone younger than half your age plus 7

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TheGreatGeno6 posted...

Who cares about judgemental people? My girl is 8 years younger than me(27 and 19) and people outside of our friend group make comments all the time and it doesnt affect us. Because believe it or not, I did not hold her up at gunpoint forcing her to be with me, in fact she perused me. If that bothers people then that's their problem and not ours

if you care so little about other peoples opinions, why did you make this topic lol

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Romulox28 posted...

If anything, the age of consent should be higher

That's idiotic. We baby people enough as it is not allowing them to drink until 21. I'll bet you're a proponent of abstinence only education?

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TC confirmed creepy old dude

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AlisLandale posted...

if you care so little about other peoples opinions, why did you make this topic lol

I like to hear their logic as to why our relationship makes them clutch their pearls so hard, what I meant was people's opinions don't affect the quality of our relationship.

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1/3 your age -7 makes more sense tbh.

TheGreatGeno6 posted...

Who cares about judgemental people? My girl is 8 years younger than me(27 and 19) and people outside of our friend group make comments all the time and it doesnt affect us. Because believe it or not, I did not hold her up at gunpoint forcing her to be with me, in fact she perused me. If that bothers people then that's their problem and not ours

I mean the biggest reason that people worry about those in different age groups dating is because people change and go through different "phases" in life. There's a definite imbalance of power in a relationship between a 27 year old and a 19 year old that doesn't exist between say, a 40 and 48 year old. She has literally been out of high school for one or two years, and doesn't have any real adult life experience. I know that I changed significantly between even just the age of say 19 and 24. Once you've weathered adult life a few years, you kind of get a better handle on exactly what you value in life, which direction you want to go moving forward, etc.
You're coming in with more experience, more money probably, more an idea of how life works, etc than she has which gives you much more power than her in the relationship. Sure, its legal for you to do that but I still it is kinda creepy.
As a 30 year old though, I also wouldn't take a 22 year old for more-or-less the same reason.

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Starts topic stating arbitrary rule by endorsing a different arbitrary rule. Lol.

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I think it's a good rule of thumb.

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Good news TC, nobody actually takes it seriously.

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If you actually believe what you say, why do you need to convince everyone else? Is it really that painful for you to see a bunch of old people not fucking teenagers?

Seems like you're battling yourself

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Anticyclonic posted...

I mean the biggest reason that people worry about those in different age groups dating is because people change and go through different "phases" in life. There's a definite imbalance of power in a relationship between a 27 year old and a 19 year old that doesn't exist between say, a 40 and 48 year old. She has literally been out of high school for one or two years, and doesn't have any real adult life experience. I know that I changed significantly between even just the age of say 19 and 24. Once you've weathered adult life a few years, you kind of get a better handle on exactly what you value in life, which direction you want to go moving forward, etc.
You're coming in with more experience, more money probably, more an idea of how life works, etc than she has which gives you much more power than her in the relationship. Sure, its legal for you to do that but I still it is kinda creepy.
As a 30 year old though, I also wouldn't take a 22 year old for more-or-less the same reason.

She does not plan on going to college so that isn't an issue, she lives with her parents who both like me and know how old I am. We have a lot in common and we enjoy being around each other in general and not just when were fucking. Our personalities work well together. So that's why her age doesnt matter one bit to me


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TheGreatGeno6 posted...

My girl is 8 years younger than me(27 and 19)

lmao okay that explains it

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I also find it funny that her own parents have 0 problem with us being together but it makes the CE puritans ANGERY

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refmon posted...

lmao okay that explains it

Yeah I read the title and was like "No one is even arguing about this, obvious TC is just bringing it up to justify something personal" and well...
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Bio1590 posted...

Yeah I read the title and was like "No one is even arguing about this, obvious TC is just bringing it up to justify something personal" and well...

It was inspired by another topic on this board

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As a 30 year old who supervises three 20-somethings, being with someone that hasn't even hit their 20s yet sounds like a straight up nightmare.

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I'm 29 and I couldn't imagine dating someone under 21 tbh.

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TheGreatGeno6 posted...

She does not plan on going to college so that isn't an issue, she lives with her parents who both like me and know how old I am. We have a lot in common and we enjoy being around each other in general and not just when were fucking. Our personalities work well together. So that's why her age doesnt matter one bit to me

Bruh, she doesn't even really know who she is yet. I feel bad that she's going to be chained down to a grown ass man during what are supposed to be the years of finding herself.

Not like anyone ever has sex anyway so this is just a theoretical exercise

Blue_School posted...

1/3 your age -7 makes more sense tbh.

I legit LOLed

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Anteaterking posted...

I'm 29 and I couldn't imagine dating someone under 21 tbh.

Same, but I couldn't even imagine dating someone younger than my brother and he's 25.
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Its a go by for middle aged men really. And mostly for guys that are just divorced and rationalizing potential dates

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it is predatory to talk to a woman who's brain isn't fully developed yet, so the acceptable age to date is never

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Anticyclonic posted...

I mean the biggest reason that people worry about those in different age groups dating is because people change and go through different "phases" in life. There's a definite imbalance of power in a relationship between a 27 year old and a 19 year old that doesn't exist between say, a 40 and 48 year old. She has literally been out of high school for one or two years, and doesn't have any real adult life experience. I know that I changed significantly between even just the age of say 19 and 24. Once you've weathered adult life a few years, you kind of get a better handle on exactly what you value in life, which direction you want to go moving forward, etc.
You're coming in with more experience, more money probably, more an idea of how life works, etc than she has which gives you much more power than her in the relationship. Sure, its legal for you to do that but I still it is kinda creepy.
As a 30 year old though, I also wouldn't take a 22 year old for more-or-less the same reason.

And yet marriages with a ten year or more difference have a lower divorce rate then those with the average three year difference.

The reason you think its creepy is because society has conditioned you to think that. Starting somewhere in the 1900s we for some reason started pushing back childhood. I mean there are now people thinking that those in their mid 20s are children. Actual children and that there is no difference between them and a five year. Doctors have said this is actually psychologically damaging to teenagers to be treated like they are children. For literally all of human history teenagers were adults. That is the actual biological function of puberty. To separate child from adult. Nature doesn't give a shit about people's feelings or what rules are made.

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Honestly after the age of 25 you should probably just not date anyone who can't legally drink. It's just weird and you guys have completely different life experiences at that point. Why you'd wanna share it with someone just coming out of adolescence is beyond me, outside of you just being creepy or desperate

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COVxy posted...

Starts topic stating arbitrary rule by endorsing a different arbitrary rule. Lol.

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AlisLandale posted...

Just because something is legal doesnt mean its socially acceptable.

I get why people would raise an eyebrow at a 60 year old man marrying an 18 year old girl

but how about 20 year old girl marrying a 30 year old guy? that actually happens more often than people think. yet people often whine about it online. the half your age plus 7 thing is stupid. there is no universal method for being ok. especially as you get older. like if a 30 year old wants to make a 50 year old, is that weird to you? maybe just quit worrying about it.

Gamerguymass posted...

And yet marriages with a ten year or more difference have a lower divorce rate then those with the average three year difference.

Where did you get this from? Im interested.

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TheGreatGeno6 posted...

I also find it funny that her own parents have 0 problem with us being together but it makes the CE puritans ANGERY

You gotta admit, it makes you appear uncomfortable with your situation when you're the one bringing it up. This isn't even like someone started a discussion and you got involved. You shouldn't care this much what others think. You saying her parents don't care and still being this irritated by it just shows even more that you're bothered in some way. Maybe not the way I think, but definitely in some way or another. Figure it out and find inner peace my dude.

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Gamerguymass posted...

And yet marriages with a ten year or more difference have a lower divorce rate then those with the average three year difference.

The reason you think its creepy is because society has conditioned you to think that. Starting somewhere in the 1900s we for some reason started pushing back childhood. I mean there are now people thinking that those in their mid 20s are children. Actual children and that there is no difference between them and a five year. Doctors have said this is actually psychologically damaging to teenagers to be treated like they are children. For literally all of human history teenagers were adults. That is the actual biological function of puberty. To separate child from adult. Nature doesn't give a shit about people's feelings or what rules are made.

No, the reason I think it's "creepy" is because of the power imbalance thing I talked about. Did you even bother reading the explanation that I went through the trouble of typing out?
For instance, Trump's relationship with his wife seems creepy to me too. That whole thing about her choosing not to move in for a bit so she could strike up a better deal in the prenuptial?
Pretty fucking weird to me if true.
Note that every time I mention creepiness, I take care to mention the "to me" part.
I realize these are subjective assessments at the end of the day and I also think it's arrogant of you to try and explain to me the reasoning behind why I've arrived at the subjective conclusions that I have without even knowing me or discussing them in detail with me first.
Your first engagement with me is literally "Well, THIS is why you think that way, you know.."

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TheGreatGeno6 posted...

She does not plan on going to college so that isn't an issue, she lives with her parents who both like me and know how old I am. We have a lot in common and we enjoy being around each other in general and not just when were fucking. Our personalities work well together. So that's why her age doesnt matter one bit to me

I dont care. Didn't ask about the personal details. You created the topic and I gave you my thoughts lol.

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Blue_School posted...

1/3 your age -7 makes more sense tbh.

30 year olds should not be banging 17 year olds.

Edit : ehh, i shouldve read your post a second time lol

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Barber102 posted...

30 year olds should not be banging 17 year olds.

You might wanna check that math lol.

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TheGreatGeno6 posted...

I also find it funny that her own parents have 0 problem with us being together but it makes the CE puritans ANGERY

You created this topic.
If you didn't want our opinions then don't create a topic fishing for our opinions, duh. Lol
This really isnt that complicated.


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COVxy posted...

You might wanna check that math lol.

yeah, kind of jumped the gun lol.

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Anticyclonic posted...

No, the reason I think it's "creepy" is because of the power imbalance thing I talked about. Did you even bother reading the explanation that I went through the trouble of typing out?
For instance, Trump's relationship with his wife seems creepy to me too. That whole thing about her choosing not to move in for a bit so she could strike up a better deal in the prenuptial?
Pretty fucking weird to me if true.
Note that every time I mention creepiness, I take care to mention the "to me" part.
I realize these are subjective assessments at the end of the day and I also think it's arrogant of you to try and explain to me the reasoning behind why I've arrived at the subjective conclusions that I have without even knowing me or discussing them in detail with me first.
Your first engagement with me is literally "Well, THIS is why you think that way, you know.."

Its not arrogant at all as that literally is the reason why you think that. What you think of various situations is dependent on when you lived. If you grew up a 150 years ago and heard about a 40 year old marrying a 16 year you wouldn't have batted an eye. No one would have since it was commonplace.

And you are aware historically marriage has always been a business transaction right? Do you know what a dowery is? Not mention a trophy wife? I mean what do you think a trophy wife is? Its literally a business transaction where the older guy gets a younger hot piece of ass and the women gets financial security. It happens literally everyday. In modern times only poor people marry for love.

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Gamerguymass posted...

Starting somewhere in the 1900s we for some reason started pushing back childhood. I mean there are now people thinking that those in their mid 20s are children. Actual children and that there is no difference between them and a five year. Doctors have said this is actually psychologically damaging to teenagers to be treated like they are children. For literally all of human history teenagers were adults. That is the actual biological function of puberty. To separate child from adult. Nature doesn't give a shit about people's feelings or what rules are made.

This is a great post, and I agree completely. Society has screwed up tons of people in recent years, people in their 20s & 30s who still can't function as adults.

Gamerguymass posted...

Its not arrogant at all as that literally is the reason why you think that. What you think of various situations is dependent on when you lived. If you grew up a 150 years ago and heard about a 40 year old marrying a 16 year you wouldn't have batted an eye. No one would have since it was commonplace.

And you are aware historically marriage has always been a business transaction right? Do you know what a dowery is? Not mention a trophy wife? I mean what do you think a trophy wife is? Its literally a business transaction where the older guy gets a younger hot piece of ass and the women gets financial security. It happens literally everyday. In modern times only poor people marry for love.

If you grew up 160 years ago and heard about a guy who had slaves pick his cotton then you wouldn't bat an eye either. We probably should try and base our morality on an analysis of the situation instead of "Well it used to be this way!"

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Anticyclonic posted...

If you grew up 160 years ago and heard about a guy who had slaves pick his cotton then you wouldn't bat an eye either. We probably should try and base our morality on an analysis of the situation instead of "Well it used to be this way!"

You obviously didn't understand my point. Not to mention you completely ignored my first post explaining why its normal to begin with.

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Gamerguymass posted...

You obviously didn't understand my point. Not to mention you completely ignored my first post explaining why its normal to begin with.

You didn't even address my actual argument. Just brought up a strawman. I then explained why your strawman is also bad reasoning. So let me break it down for you.
1. I stated that I think its creepy and why..the power dynamic.
2. Rather than anything explaining why I shouldn't think that power dynamic is creepy in a romantic relationship, you countered with two points.

a. A claim that 10 yr age difference leads to less divorce. You offered no sources to back up that claim, and everything I'm seeing says the opposite, that age differences result in higher divorce rate. So either offer up a source or shut up. Lol Keep in mind that even if divorce rates were lower, it doesn't necessarily mean they're happier and doesn't necessarily apply to those who married in their teens. If you're going to argue stats to try and back up creepo TC then actually provide some halfway fucking decent data.

b. Second argument was that people have always done it, and I only find it creepy cuz I live in the present.

3. I countered your argument by giving an example of why that we shouldn't base our morality (nor do I care to base what I find 'creepy on.) what people have always done before.

And yes, that literally was your point. You talked about marriage was traditionally a business transaction (ie - people used to do it, therefore it should be ok now, essentially is what I'm getting from you) lol

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