Current Events > Hoo boy; FBI says noose found in Bubba's stall had been there since October...

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Kastrada
06/24/20 1:34:16 AM
#103:


MrMallard posted...
Apparently he didn't report the noise to begin with, and the noose was there before he even lived there.

If people go after him for "doing a Jussie Smollett", then they're fucking trash. Bubba Wallace didn't ask for any of this.

This thing has been ALL Nascar's doing. They were worried and reacted accordingly. All Bubba has done this whole time is: 1. Be black. 2. Say "Black Lives Matter" 3. Want the Confederate flag banned.

That's it.

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Smashingpmkns
06/24/20 1:38:07 AM
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The FBI addressed this quicker than they've addressed any actual lynchings in US history lmao
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UnholyMudcrab
06/24/20 1:49:22 AM
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badwinkles posted...
UnholyMudcrab posted...
Now the racists are going to go on about how it was a hoax.

Oh well, their opinions don't matter anyway. It's good that NASCAR took it as seriously as they did.

shut the fuck up

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hockeybub89
06/24/20 1:50:28 AM
#106:


MrMallard posted...
Apparently he didn't report the noise to begin with, and the noose was there before he even lived there.
There seems to be confusion. This was the garage at Talladega, which NASCAR has not been to since October. They are not practicing due to their COVID protocols, so they basically just rolled into the track, dumped the cars in the garages, and did a few touch ups on the morning of raceday.

With all the attention spinning around NASCAR and Bubba, some team member just reported something they saw and NASCAR overreacted to make sure they got to the bottom of it. Bubba has battled with depression in the past and lot of rotten shits have been attacking him on social media, which he makes the mistake of reading. His team members were just looking out for him.

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TroutPaste
06/24/20 8:35:27 AM
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Rebel_Patriot
06/24/20 11:44:05 AM
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I like Wallace and have cheered him on many times, the only thing I fault him for is going on morning shows and saying the doubters are ignorant without ever seeing the damn thing himself. Also theres a better than not chance that NASCAR realizes the reality of the situation extremely early into it and continued with the virtue signaling. They couldve squashed it well before it embarrassed them twice.

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Balrog0
06/24/20 11:45:43 AM
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Rebel_Patriot posted...
I like Wallace and have cheered him on many times, the only thing I fault him for is going on morning shows and saying the doubters are ignorant without ever seeing the damn thing himself. Also theres a better than not chance that NASCAR realizes the reality of the situation extremely early into it and continued with the virtue signaling. They couldve squashed it well before it embarrassed them twice.

He did see it according to him. Based on a don lemon interview I saw clips of in twitter

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Romes187
06/24/20 11:51:19 AM
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Balrog0 posted...
He did see it according to him. Based on a don lemon interview I saw clips of in twitter

I read he said he only saw a photo

Now, FBI determined it was put there last year and there's no way to know bubba would have had this particular garage and that is QUITE the long con of racism if it were an actual hate crime

but then I saw bubba quoted as saying that its still a noose, even if it wasn't for him

if he's just trying to be semantically correct...then okay its a noose sure

but i feel like a better response would have been "You know, I overreacted after seeing an image of what looked like a noose and it conjured up some bad feelings. But I should have let the investigation finish before coming out and saying it was a hate crime and I apologize to those I didn't give charity to when claiming it was fake, but know that they were also making their opinions on incomplete data. I think now is a good time to reflect on the fact that when a news story breaks, we have about 5% of the information. And coming to conclusions based on incomplete data is often a recipe for disaster. From now on, I am going to do my best to make sure I have as much information as needed to not jump the gun. Hate crimes are serious, and I don't want to take away from that and give ammo to those who claim every single one is a hoax."
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FursonaNonGrata
06/24/20 12:49:53 PM
#111:


Romes187 posted...
I read he said he only saw a photo

Now, FBI determined it was put there last year and there's no way to know bubba would have had this particular garage and that is QUITE the long con of racism if it were an actual hate crime

but then I saw bubba quoted as saying that its still a noose, even if it wasn't for him

if he's just trying to be semantically correct...then okay its a noose sure

but i feel like a better response would have been "You know, I overreacted after seeing an image of what looked like a noose and it conjured up some bad feelings. But I should have let the investigation finish before coming out and saying it was a hate crime and I apologize to those I didn't give charity to when claiming it was fake, but know that they were also making their opinions on incomplete data. I think now is a good time to reflect on the fact that when a news story breaks, we have about 5% of the information. And coming to conclusions based on incomplete data is often a recipe for disaster. From now on, I am going to do my best to make sure I have as much information as needed to not jump the gun. Hate crimes are serious, and I don't want to take away from that and give ammo to those who claim every single one is a hoax."

shut the fuck up


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hockeybub89
06/24/20 1:13:05 PM
#112:


Romes187 posted...
I read he said he only saw a photo

Now, FBI determined it was put there last year and there's no way to know bubba would have had this particular garage and that is QUITE the long con of racism if it were an actual hate crime

but then I saw bubba quoted as saying that its still a noose, even if it wasn't for him

if he's just trying to be semantically correct...then okay its a noose sure

but i feel like a better response would have been "You know, I overreacted after seeing an image of what looked like a noose and it conjured up some bad feelings. But I should have let the investigation finish before coming out and saying it was a hate crime and I apologize to those I didn't give charity to when claiming it was fake, but know that they were also making their opinions on incomplete data. I think now is a good time to reflect on the fact that when a news story breaks, we have about 5% of the information. And coming to conclusions based on incomplete data is often a recipe for disaster. From now on, I am going to do my best to make sure I have as much information as needed to not jump the gun. Hate crimes are serious, and I don't want to take away from that and give ammo to those who claim every single one is a hoax."
Who is he apologizing to or for? He didn't force the investigation or even accuse anyone. The people who called it a hoax are objectively wrong

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hockeybub89
06/24/20 1:22:47 PM
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The idea that Richard Petty Motorsports, the upper management of NASCAR and FBI agents were in cahoots to push a fake hate crime and hold no one responsible for reporting it is almost unbelievably stupid.

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Romes187
06/24/20 1:36:44 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Who is he apologizing to or for? He didn't force the investigation or even accuse anyone. The people who called it a hoax are objectively wrong

i agree the people calling it a hoax are objectively wrong. I'm saying the thing feels like an overreaction because of how easily it could be disproved. How it made it all the way to the FBI without someone working there saying "hey wait a minute" is telling about the state of expression in the country, or something else went wrong. Not sure what.

My suggested response was one that I feel would make everyone nod slightly at minimum. "Hate crimes are terrible things and should be dealt with accordingly. But let's not jump the gun and cry wolf, lest we take the power away from our accusations."

Dunno how you can't agree with that but thats cool too
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Questionmarktarius
06/24/20 1:40:10 PM
#115:


Romes187 posted...
How it made it all the way to the FBI without someone working there saying "hey wait a minute" is telling about the state of expression in the country, or something else went wrong.
NASCAR was already in the shit over confederate flags. Downplaying an alleged noose would have just been a bigger shitstorm.
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Rebel_Patriot
06/24/20 1:44:13 PM
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Well no one with any kind of influence is calling it a hoax. Cause its not. But plenty of people who do have influence, including Wallace, are not squashing the original belief that some racist act occurred. No one on the View has corrected it, Don Lemon hasnt, etc.

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Romes187
06/24/20 1:44:15 PM
#117:


Questionmarktarius posted...
NASCAR was already in the shit over confederate flags. Downplaying an alleged noose would have just been a bigger shitstorm.

Of course that could be the reason why. For some reason my gut tells me in normal circumstances someone that worked there might have chimed in quicker. But I could just be way off.
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