Current Events > The goal is to get Trump out of office

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Anyone else would be a better presidential candidate that has ran. Biden won the nomination and even if you're not a fan of his, the bigger picture is getting Trump out of office.

Since Biden is the most popular, a vote against Biden is a vote to keep Trump in office. So anyone against Trump and thinks they're sticking it to Biden by not voting for him is really giving a vote to Trump no matter if your vote isn't for either. So please don't be that person.

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CrimsonRage posted...

it just sucks that a biden win will just mean to democrats that trump was an anomaly and that they don't need to change

There is always next time though. 4 years of Biden is always just an option for the next better candidate. We just need to get Trump out of office.

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CrimsonRage posted...

it just sucks that a biden win will just mean to democrats that trump was an anomaly and that they don't need to change

Disagree. Bidens already shown hes open to more progressive platforms. Plus, the president isnt the SOLE source for progressive platform change. Winning majority of the house and senate is really what will bring about change in the US, not just the president.

He just renewed the call to cancel student loan debt like 3 days ago.

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CrimsonRage posted...

it just sucks that a biden win will just mean to democrats that trump was an anomaly and that they don't need to change

They didn't change when Trump actually won. We aren't getting any reasonable changes for another like 15 years until the current crop of Democrats all die.

Biden will make things a little better, but probably not much.

"Not voting Biden is Ackchyually a vote for Trump"
"Not voting Trump is Ackchyually a vote for Biden"

So if you vote third party you're voting for the third party candidate, Trump, and Biden. And voting three times is what we call voter fraud.


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If you vote 3rd party you're voting for Trump. It's really that simple.


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Were_Wyrm posted...

"Not voting Biden is Ackchyually a vote for Trump"
"Not voting Trump is Ackchyually a vote for Biden"

So if you vote third party you're voting for the third party candidate, Trump, and Biden. And voting three times is what we call voter fraud.

Can we get the President to believe in this?

That's the goal for democrats. I'd like to see actual improvements, which democrats are not concerned with. It's just a matter of appearance with them, which they demonstrated by licking George W Bush's war ciminal ass.

"Yeah but at least Biden isn't Trump!!"

Don't forget that Trump came after eight years of Obama, another impotent loser who got nothing done. Trump is only a symptom of several deep underlying issues in this country. Merely changing the figurehead will not solve these problems.

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MFBKBass5 posted...

Bidens already shown hes open to more progressive platforms.

Like when he laughed in the face of a voter asking about medicare for all?

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Getting Trump out to what end? What policy changes would you like to see? Most can't even answer this.

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onedarksoul posted...

Getting Trump out to what end? What policy changes would you like to see? Most can't even answer this.

The Supreme Court not being super majoritied is more than enough reason to not want 4 more years of Trump

onedarksoul posted...

Getting Trump out to what end? What policy changes would you like to see? Most can't even answer this.

we'll stop being an embarrassment to the world DOOD

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Stp

It never really matters who the president is, so long as least one house of congress is the other party.

You should be voting who you think will do the job best. Not because the person is the lesser evil of the two.

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I cant in good faith vote for Biden he has just ad many skeletons in the closet. I'll either vote independent or just stay home

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pepper2012 posted...

I cant in good faith vote for Biden he has just ad many skeletons in the closet

You have to be delusional to believe this.

MagnusX posted...

You have to be delusional to believe this.

Right? It's in extremely bad faith to vote for anyone other than Biden considering the opposite goes in favor of Trump.

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I honestly dont know how anyone can look at the condition of the USA and be like Yeah Trump is doing a good job

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Questionmarktarius posted...

It never really matters who the president is, so long as least one house of congress is the other party.

This is not true. Top leaders ultimately do have an effect on culture.

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Copy_X_Mk_ll posted...

lol

I don't believe that literally. Just the notion that not voting for Biden directly favors Trump is the point.

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coinstarcad posted...

Why'd America let him become the president in the first place if they don't want his idiocy to ruin this trashy country?

Because the 2 party system broken America and people voted for Trump simply because he was a republican.

You know he only won the electoral college by 80k votes spread across 3 states? Thats a TINY percentage of the total number of people who voted in 2016.

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MFBKBass5 posted...

You know he only won the electoral college by 80k votes spread across 3 states? Thats a TINY percentage of the total number of people who voted in 2016.

Article 2 didn't really intend on a popular vote anyway.

Questionmarktarius posted...

Article 2 didn't really intend on a popular vote anyway.

Im not talking about the popular vote. He won 3 states electoral votes by 80k votes spread across 3 states. Thats how narrowly he won those states electoral votes.

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MFBKBass5 posted...

Im not talking about the popular vote. He won 3 states electoral votes by 80k votes spread across 3 states. Thats how narrowly he won those states electoral votes.

This is the actual flaw in the electoral system. It puts too much weight on flip-floppy states, while the bastions are ignored.

Nah, no vote is just no vote. I'm not going to vote for someone I don't like just because the other guy is an embarrassing dumbass.

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hockeybub89 posted...

Nah, no vote is just no vote. I'm not going to vote for someone I don't like just because the other guy is an embarrassing dumbass.

Then you're apart of the problem and are still contributing to lowering the chances of getting him out of office.

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--Zero- posted...

Then you're apart of the problem and are still contributing to lowering the chances of getting him out of office.

It is a free country, we agree, right? So, does a person have the right to exercise their freedom of NOT voting?

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Caution999 posted...

It is a free country, we agree, right? So, does a person have the right to exercise their freedom of NOT voting?

100% correct on that statement. I agree with it. There are also times when doing nothing is problematic to a situation as a whole.

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That was the goal in 2016. How did it work out?

i'll continue to vote 3rd party until democrats put forth someone worth my vote or they decide to fix voting laws and eliminate first past the post voting.

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--Zero- posted...

Then you're apart of the problem and are still contributing to lowering the chances of getting him out of office.

ok

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SevenTenths posted...

That was the goal in 2016. How did it work out?

i'll continue to vote 3rd party until democrats put forth someone worth my vote or they decide to fix voting laws and eliminate first past the post voting.

That wasn't the goal in 2016. We didn't fully know what would happen if Trump became president. If was simply a lesser of 2 evils situation that became a mistake.

At a time that's so important to get Trump out of office how is it hard to vote for the most popular candidate to achieve that?

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--Zero- posted...

That wasn't the goal in 2016.

lol

--Zero- posted...

If was simply a lesser of 2 evils situation that became a mistake.

so just like in2020?
--Zero- posted...

At a time that's so important to get Trump out of office how is it hard to vote for the most popular candidate to achieve that?

https://youtu.be/MykMQfmLIro

let me know when i can vote for the most popular, instead of the 'least bad', because i will not exercise my right to vote for a candidate who will not make the country better but will only serve his corporate overords. So I will once again vote 3rd party until I can vote for a candidate I actually believe wants to make the country better for the people. I will never vote for someone because they aren't someone else.

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Then it seems you're contributing to Trump remaining in office and are okay with that. I agree with voting 3rd party if you don't like a candidate to show that candidate has support in the future, but now it's pretty important to get rid of an absolute evil in the office.

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just you all third party or no voters understand

if trump wins you might actually literally die

or at best you will live in a wasteland. the nation will either collapse into dust and we will all live in a ruined society with no government, or trump will turn american into an empire and found a royal family. but either way we are screwed

--Zero- posted...

Then it seems you're contributing to Trump remaining in office and are okay with that. I agree with voting 3rd party if you don't like a candidate to show that candidate has support in the future, but now it's pretty important to get rid of an absolute evil in the office.

agreed. this is the most important election in US history. and some people are voting third party or not voting at all because they don't understand that

Check my sig for my thoughts on this matter.

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The goal shouldn't be to "get Trump out of office", but get an excellent President in. That's not Biden. This whole topic is a display of the results of consuming partisan propaganda.

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--Zero- posted...

Then you're apart of the problem and are still contributing to lowering the chances of getting him out of office.

The "problem" is that we've been indoctrinated by a busted ass two-party system where instead of voting for somebody who will actually better the country, we instead vote for the guy that will harm it less. You guys don't seem to fucking get that every crooked ass politician, whether red or blue, is COUNTING on you to play this game. Our politicians don't have to actually try, as long as the other guy fucks up enough.

And we're never going to break free of it as long as we keep playing into this system. We need a total dismantlement of it, but people are scared to think outside the box of American politics.


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Zikten posted...

this is the most important election in US history.

[citation needed]

Nah. They do this every single cycle, they force you to vote for someone who you disagree with on literally everything just because the other guy is 10x worse. I'm tired of choosing between the worst of two bad options.

This year, I'm writing in a candidate that shares my values. If Trump wins, it's not my fault. It's the DNC's fault for constantly giving us candidates we don't care about. Who knows, maybe they'll lose a couple elections and get sick of it, finally stop forcing through establishment candidates nobody likes or wants.

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Questionmarktarius posted...

[citation needed]

Zikten posted...

if trump wins you might actually literally die

or at best you will live in a wasteland. the nation will either collapse into dust and we will all live in a ruined society with no government, or trump will turn american into an empire and found a royal family. but either way we are screwed

trump will be the final president in US history. sounds pretty high stakes to me. there has never been a more serious election. 2nd term Trump will literally destroy america

Zikten posted...

trump will be the final president in US history. sounds pretty high stakes to me. there has never been a more serious election. 2nd term Trump will literally destroy america

https://youtu.be/BwSts2s4ba4


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ledbowman posted...

ok

You are. People like you are how we got stuck with Trump in the first place

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People really don't seem to understand that Trump can literally break any law that he wants to as precedent set by the impeachment stuff but "tHeY'Re BoTh ThE sAmE"

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yes mr Jameson I am serious. and you should not be so cocky, you have been wrong about things in the comics manytimes and looked like a fool. in Ultimate Spider-Man you had a story arc where you started worshipping Spider-Man even