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Antifar
06/27/20 2:26:27 PM
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https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/27/parler-ceo-wants-liberal-to-join-the-pro-trump-crowd-on-the-app.html?__source=twitter%7Cmain


Jim Jordan, Elise Stefanik and Nikki Haley all have something in common, other than a strong affection towards President Trump.

The three Republican politicians joined social media app Parler this week, adding their profiles to a site thats emerged as the new digital stomping ground for anti-Twitter conservatives. Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas arrived earlier this month and Rep. Devin Nunes of California started in February, while Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky has been a member since 2018, the year the app launched.

Its about time yall joined me on @parler_app, Paul tweeted on Wednesday. Whats taking the rest of you so long?!

To be fair, Trump campaign manager Brad Parscale has also been on Parler since 2018. Eric Trump, the presidents son, and his wife, Lara, joined on the same day last month. Like Twitter, the app lets users share comments, photos and news stories with their followers.

The catalyst for the latest growth surge was a story from The Wall Street Journal on Wednesday, which said that the Trump administration was looking for alternatives to Facebook and Twitter over concern that more content is going to be blocked as the election campaign heats up. The Journal named Parler as a possible alternative.

Two days later, Parler was the top-ranked iPhone app in the news category, ahead of Twitter and Reddit, and 24th overall, just behind Venmo and WhatsApp, according to App Annie. User growth surged to 1.5 million from 1 million over the course of about a week, said John Matze, Parlers 27-year-old founder and CEO.

Were a community town square, an open town square, with no censorship, Matze said in an interview on Thursday, from his home in Las Vegas. If you can say it on the street of New York, you can say it on Parler.

Parler is playing into the hands of conservatives, who have become more vocal in their criticism of Twitter since the site started flagging Trumps tweets for promoting violence or abusive behavior or making false claims that could confuse voters. Trump supporters have long argued that the dominant Silicon Valley platforms have been out to censor conservative voices, even as those very same people continue to post on those sites and rack up followers by the thousands.

Rep. Jordan of Ohio told his 1.4 million Twitter followers on Friday to come over to Parler, where they dont censor or shadow ban, referring to the practice of banning users in a way thats not apparent to them. By late afternoon he had about 3,100 followers on Parler.

Twitter regularly denies treating people differently based on their political views. Liz Kelley, a Twitter spokeswoman, told CNBC in a statement that, We enforce the Twitter Rules impartially for everyone, regardless of their background or political affiliation.

When Nunes joined in February, he told his Twitter fans, which number 1.1 million, to join him on Parler if theyre tired of left wing censorship of big tech. Nunes has an infamous relationship with Twitter, after attempting to sue the company for defamation and negligence and naming as defendants two anonymous parody accounts, Devin Nunes Mom and Devin Nunes Cow.

With Devin Nunes came a whole pack of haters, said Matze. He said that parody accounts are fine and even welcome, but Parler draws a line when it comes to spammers. You cant spam peoples comment sections with unrelated content, he said.

Thats not the only no-no on Parler, which has a fairly thorough set of community guidelines. The app doesnt allow terrorist organizations or support for terrorism, the sharing of false rumors, violent language (what the site describes as fighting words) toward others, blackmail or pornography.

For verification, Parler awards a gold badge to public figures to distinguish them from parody accounts, which get a purple badge.

Matze, a computer scientist who founded the company in 2018, is grateful for the growth even if all the new verifications are creating a lot of extra work for his 30-person team.

But Matze doesnt want the app to be just an echo chamber for conservative voices. Personally, he says he doesnt like either political party and he wants to see more healthy debate. Hes so intent on getting some liberals onto the platform that hes offering a $20,000 progressive bounty for an openly liberal pundit with 50,000 followers on Twitter or Facebook to start a Parler account.

The company will judge the best one, based on engagement with the community, and pay that person the reward. Matze said theres been such little response that he increased the original proposed payment from $10,000 to $20,000.

The whole company was never intended to be a pro-Trump thing, Matze said. A lot of the audience is pro-Trump. I dont care. Im not judging them either way.

Where Matze is in full agreement with the Parler audience is in his opinion of Twitter. He thinks the company is targeting conservatives with censorship.

I dont see why you need to censor the presidents tweets, he said. If you dont like what he has to say, vote him out of office. [Antifar's note: removing him from office in 7 months is not a solution for him misleading people now]

Matze expects Parler to become a more attractive site for a more diverse audience over time because he sees Twitter continuing down a path of alienating right-wing voices, and no one is going to want to stay on Twitter if the conservatives are gone. [Antifar's note: ]

But he recognizes that the political tone of his platform will probably make it hard for him to raise money from investors in Silicon Valley, which leans Democratic and is decidedly anti-Trump. Thus far, hes funded the company with angel money and said hell soon be looking to raise a first institutional round of financing.

I can only speculate that they wouldnt be interested unless theyre ideological, he said, referring to traditional venture investors.

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Antifar
06/27/20 2:41:09 PM
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Bump
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Vicious_Dios
06/27/20 2:41:52 PM
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Gonna need a tldr version.

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Doom_Art
06/27/20 2:42:36 PM
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I wonder how long til this one goes belly up

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Doom_Art
06/27/20 2:42:54 PM
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Vicious_Dios posted...
Gonna need a tldr version.
A wonderful indictment of the American education system

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DeadBankerDream
06/27/20 2:43:32 PM
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Wasn't there another twitter alternative a year or two ago that quickly became a hotbed of neo-nazism?
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Tyranthraxus
06/27/20 2:44:07 PM
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Every time someone starts some shit like this it ends up becoming full stormfront in 4-5 months.

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Alucard188
06/27/20 2:44:27 PM
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Let them have it. I'm tired of seeing disingenuous assholes on Twitter, and the people arguing with them. I'm not going to another social media platform just to wage a turf war.

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Mezcla
06/27/20 2:44:32 PM
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im not reading all that

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Doom_Art
06/27/20 2:44:42 PM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
Wasn't there another twitter alternative a year or two ago that quickly became a hotbed of neo-nazism?
Was that Gab?


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Tyranthraxus
06/27/20 2:44:53 PM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
Wasn't there another twitter alternative a year or two ago that quickly became a hotbed of neo-nazism?
More than one. Gab and Voat are both straight up white supremacist breeding Grounds now.

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Antifar
06/27/20 2:45:06 PM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
Wasn't there another twitter alternative a year or two ago that quickly became a hotbed of neo-nazism?

I believe you're thinking of Gab
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__aCEr__
06/27/20 2:46:05 PM
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We'll start our own Twitter! With blackjack and male hookers.

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UnholyMudcrab
06/27/20 2:48:11 PM
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Antifar posted...
Were a community town square, an open town square, with no censorship,

We all know that "no censorship" is just code for "you're free to post all the Nazi shit you want here "
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BeantownHero
06/27/20 2:48:28 PM
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This is what liberals have been telling conservatives to do the whole time

Dont like twitter? Create your own version

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DevsBro
06/27/20 2:48:35 PM
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Antifar posted...
Twitter regularly denies treating people differently based on their political views. Liz Kelley, a Twitter spokeswoman, told CNBC in a statement that, We enforce the Twitter Rules impartially for everyone, regardless of their background or political affiliation.
It's a moot point. The only difference between "nobody is allowed to make conservative political posts" and "conservatives are not allowed to make political posts" is purely semantic.

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Alucard188
06/27/20 2:50:05 PM
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Antifar posted...
But Matze doesnt want the app to be just an echo chamber for conservative voices. Personally, he says he doesnt like either political party and he wants to see more healthy debate. Hes so intent on getting some liberals onto the platform that hes offering a $20,000 progressive bounty for an openly liberal pundit with 50,000 followers on Twitter or Facebook to start a Parler account.

There's no more healthy debate. It's all hyperbole, rhetoric, and fear-mongering. It's been that way for years. Nobody wants to argue with the other side, because it's a waste of time. I still maintain that the worst thing for the internet was for tech companies to dumb it down and make it readily accessible to everybody.

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Antifar
06/27/20 2:50:05 PM
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DevsBro posted...

It's a moot point. The only difference between "nobody is allowed to make conservative political posts" and "conservatives are not allowed to make political posts" is purely semantic.

There are conservative political posts all over Twitter
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HylianFox
06/27/20 2:52:03 PM
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I've always wondered why conservatives insist on having "their own" version of whatever

There's even a conservative version of wikipedia (spoiler alert, it sucks)

Are really that fragile that they HAVE to have some sort of echo chamber?
Sadly, all signs point to "yes"

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Gamerguymass
06/27/20 2:52:52 PM
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If you can say it on the street of New York, you can say it on Parler.

But who is going to punch you in the face like they would if you said half that shit on the streets of New York?

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IReallyDoubtIt
06/27/20 2:54:13 PM
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Alucard188
06/27/20 2:54:31 PM
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RoadsterUFO posted...

So true. I can think of many other marginalised groups that need a safe space before any conservative group.

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DeadBankerDream
06/27/20 2:57:26 PM
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IReallyDoubtIt posted...
https://twitter.com/Jding314/status/1276410787813371905?s=19 (click to expand)

Does that actually work? I need confirmation. That would be hilarious.
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HylianFox
06/27/20 2:57:30 PM
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RoadsterUFO posted...

Ha!

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Blo
06/27/20 2:59:21 PM
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UnholyMudcrab
06/27/20 3:01:49 PM
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An echo is what they call a retweet? So it's literally an echochamber.
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SmidgeIsntBack
06/27/20 3:03:08 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
An echo is what they call a retweet? So it's literally an echochamber.

Fuck I was just about to say this.

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kyujo
06/27/20 3:03:42 PM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
https://twitter.com/Jding314/status/1276410787813371905?s=19
Does that actually work? I need confirmation. That would be hilarious.
We need answers!

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evil_zombie11
06/27/20 3:04:05 PM
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Expected a 4chan knockoff, got parler.

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Doom_Art
06/27/20 3:05:34 PM
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And to think just a few months ago I had people telling me Brad Parscale is a genius

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Rhylos
06/27/20 3:06:27 PM
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hurdur free speech = nazi speech

I don't get why we don't just removed the fingers and vocal cords of anyone we deem a racist so they can't communicate
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Phantom_Nook
06/27/20 3:07:52 PM
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made up their own echo chamber because they were buttmad about not being allowed to post racist garbage on Twitter, eh?

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HylianFox
06/27/20 3:09:41 PM
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Rhylos posted...

oh lookie, another '? Block' with less than 10 posts and completely missing the point

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Doom_Art
06/27/20 3:09:54 PM
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Rhylos posted...
hurdur free speech = nazi speech

I don't get why we don't just removed the fingers and vocal cords of anyone we deem a racist so they can't communicate
i mean i've been advocating for more severe punishments than that for nazis for a long time now

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Rhylos
06/27/20 3:12:25 PM
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HylianFox posted...
another '? Block' with less than 10 posts and completely missing the point?
ignored

It's called sarcasm but okay
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SmidgeIsntBack
06/27/20 3:13:49 PM
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https://www.huffpost.com/entry/parler-free-speech-alternative-twitter-user-agreement_n_5ef660fdc5b6acab28419a5d

The self-proclaimed "unbiased" alternative to Twitter requires users to agree to pay Parler's legal bills if it gets sued over their posts.

Unlike Twitter or Facebook, Parler requires users to agree to defend and indemnify Parler, as well as any of its officers, directors, employees, and agents, from and against any and all claims, actions, damages, obligations, losses, liabilities, costs or debt, and expenses (including but not limited to all attorneys fees) arising from or relating to your access to and use of the Services.

In order to use Parler, individuals must also forfeit their right to sue Parler in court or join a class-action claim and instead must settle disputes in arbitration, a secretive process that typically favors businesses over individuals bringing complaints. (Neither Twitter nor Facebook requires arbitration in their terms of service.)

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Phantom_Nook
06/27/20 3:15:40 PM
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Unlike Twitter or Facebook, Parler requires users to agree to defend and indemnify Parler, as well as any of its officers, directors, employees, and agents, from and against any and all claims, actions, damages, obligations, losses, liabilities, costs or debt, and expenses (including but not limited to all attorneys fees) arising from or relating to your access to and use of the Services.
LMAO

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berlyman101
06/27/20 3:16:50 PM
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sktgamer_13dude
06/27/20 3:17:16 PM
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DevsBro posted...

It's a moot point. The only difference between "nobody is allowed to make conservative political posts" and "conservatives are not allowed to make political posts" is purely semantic.

Maybe the conservatives who are getting moderated should stop posting things against the TOS?
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HylianFox
06/27/20 3:17:49 PM
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Phantom_Nook posted...
LMAO

you also have to dedicate your firstborn to them

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DevsBro
06/27/20 3:20:29 PM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
Maybe the conservatives who are getting moderated should stop posting things against the TOS?
Or find a site with a different ToS, hence the present situation.

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06/27/20 3:22:42 PM
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Poop2
06/27/20 3:24:08 PM
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yes, post on this new platform, we can keep tabs on your hivemind stupidity this way.
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HylianFox
06/27/20 3:24:54 PM
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Poop2 posted...
yes, post on this new platform, we can keep tabs on your hivemind stupidity this way.

that is an upside to having all the assholes in one location

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Poop2
06/27/20 3:25:53 PM
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HylianFox posted...


that is an upside to having all the assholes in one location

yep. never understood wanting to silence the far right unless its blatant violent/racist rhetoric. its so much easier to monitor them by letting have their safe space.
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Alucard188
06/27/20 3:29:20 PM
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berlyman101 posted...
that can't be enforceable.

It's not. Any idiot can put together an EULA, but it still has to comply with local authority laws for use in that area.

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