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I Like Toast 06/28/20 5:45:04 PM #101:	andel posted... it happens by voting in candidates interested in change. Which is why it happens at a local level and increasingly a state level. andel posted... someone like biden being elected is a helluva lot better for progress than dipshit donny who will stack the courts both on the federal level and the ussc for generations. False and this is the same exact argument I've heard for the last 20 years. And justices have to be approved by Senate. Biden is going to get the same tier of bad candidate that the senate will accept. Support a broken system and you'll continue to enjoy your broken results. While always blaming the other guy and never looking in. --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:941396118] in About Bide... [t:78809360]...</cite> <quote>andel posted... </cite> <quote>it happens by voting in candidates interested in change.</quote> Which is why it happens at a local level and increasingly a state level. andel posted... </cite> <quote>someone like biden being elected is a helluva lot better for progress than dipshit donny who will stack the courts both on the federal level and the ussc for generations.</quote>False and this is the same exact argument I've heard for the last 20 years. And justices have to be approved by Senate. Biden is going to get the same tier of bad candidate that the senate will accept. Support a broken system and you'll continue to enjoy your broken results. While always blaming the other guy and never looking in. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 06/28/20 5:48:27 PM #102:	I Like Toast posted... In 4 more years you'll have another trump that you HAVE TO vote against and you'll keep accepting steaming piles of corporate shit because at least they aren't the other guy. Our guy may be bad, but theirs is worse! Exactly. Being better than the GOP is easy and takes minimal effort. No reason to expect more from the DNC if they can assume they will skate by on being better than pure shit. Third party voters and those who abstain aren't responsible for Trump and his actions. It's ridiculous. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:941396262] in About Bide... [t:78809360]...</cite> <quote>I Like Toast posted... </cite> <quote>In 4 more years you'll have another trump that you HAVE TO vote against and you'll keep accepting steaming piles of corporate shit because at least they aren't the other guy. Our guy may be bad, but theirs is worse!</quote>Exactly. Being better than the GOP is easy and takes minimal effort. No reason to expect more from the DNC if they can assume they will skate by on being better than pure shit. Third party voters and those who abstain aren't responsible for Trump and his actions. It's ridiculous. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pinky0926 06/28/20 5:52:25 PM #103:	If people voted in terms of urgently getting Trump out of office instead of humming and hahing about whether Biden is the best choice, America and subsequently the world would be a whole lot less fucky --- CE's Resident Scotsman. https://imgur.com/ILz2ZbV <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:941396419] in About Bide... [t:78809360]...</cite> <quote>If people voted in terms of urgently getting Trump out of office instead of humming and hahing about whether Biden is the best choice, America and subsequently the world would be a whole lot less fucky </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 06/28/20 5:55:05 PM #104:	pinky0926 posted... If people voted in terms of urgently getting Trump out of office instead of humming and hahing about whether Biden is the best choice, America and subsequently the world would be a whole lot less fucky honestly like Ill vote for Biden but there is an ongoing leftist movement sparking right now in America so I get why people want to talk about it. --- No Venezuelan fishermen ever called me a Bernie Bro. <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:941396545] in About Bide... [t:78809360]...</cite> <quote>pinky0926 posted... </cite> <quote>If people voted in terms of urgently getting Trump out of office instead of humming and hahing about whether Biden is the best choice, America and subsequently the world would be a whole lot less fucky</quote> honestly like Ill vote for Biden but there is an ongoing leftist movement sparking right now in America so I get why people want to talk about it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andel 06/28/20 5:55:22 PM #105:	Shablagoo posted... I hope its obvious I respect you and your opinion but my worry is that an even worse, more conniving version of Trump will come after Biden. The same way Trump somehow managed to rise to power after Obama, maybe a more competent and more hateful Republican will come after Biden. The solution isnt to vote Trump or not vote Biden, obviously just saying its something Im thinking/worrying about. i have no problem with you, i think your heart is in the right place like hockey as well. i think there is a great chance a more sinister trump comes along sooner rather than later. that is who the gop is now and i think cotton could easily be that guy which i think its even more important to consolidate power with the opposition party (democrats). progressivism is inevitable. each democratic candidate is more progressive than the last. obv bernie would have been vastly superior than biden but the boomers and moderates are still the driving force of the party. the most important thing to me is making sure the gop and trump in particular aren't driving the ship anymore. for every moderate democrat there is now an aoc and the progressive platform is more and more mainstream as each year passes. in 20 years there will be very few boomers and the aoc's of the party will be the driving force --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:941396558] in About Bide... [t:78809360]...</cite> <quote>Shablagoo posted... </cite> <quote>I hope its obvious I respect you and your opinion but my worry is that an even worse, more conniving version of Trump will come after Biden. The same way Trump somehow managed to rise to power after Obama, maybe a more competent and more hateful Republican will come after Biden. The solution isnt to vote Trump or not vote Biden, obviously just saying its something Im thinking/worrying about.</quote> i have no problem with you, i think your heart is in the right place like hockey as well. i think there is a great chance a more sinister trump comes along sooner rather than later. that is who the gop is now and i think cotton could easily be that guy which i think its even more important to consolidate power with the opposition party (democrats). progressivism is inevitable. each democratic candidate is more progressive than the last. obv bernie would have been vastly superior than biden but the boomers and moderates are still the driving force of the party. the most important thing to me is making sure the gop and trump in particular aren't driving the ship anymore. for every moderate democrat there is now an aoc and the progressive platform is more and more mainstream as each year passes. in 20 years there will be very few boomers and the aoc's of the party will be the driving force </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TopKekBro 06/28/20 5:55:52 PM #106:	@Shablagoo @hockeybub89 you dont really have to sweat this one. thanks to the electoral college and rampant voting suppression, and the fact that trump will use the power of the government to tilt the scales, I think trump has a 65% chance of winning. no need to worry. <cite>TopKekBro posted [p:941396581] in About Bide... [t:78809360]...</cite> <quote>@Shablagoo @hockeybub89 you dont really have to sweat this one. thanks to the electoral college and rampant voting suppression, and the fact that trump will use the power of the government to tilt the scales, I think trump has a 65% chance of winning. no need to worry. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pinky0926 06/28/20 5:57:15 PM #107:	Shablagoo posted... honestly like Ill vote for Biden but there is an ongoing leftist movement sparking right now in America so I get why people want to talk about it. I get it also, Biden is another corporate shill and doesnt fix the underlying problem, yada yada But Jesus Christ America, you're not in surgery right now. You're on the side of the road with your leg off and trying to have an argument about whether the EMT who arrived at the scene would make the best surgical candidate or not. --- CE's Resident Scotsman. https://imgur.com/ILz2ZbV <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:941396641] in About Bide... [t:78809360]...</cite> <quote>Shablagoo posted... </cite> <quote>honestly like Ill vote for Biden but there is an ongoing leftist movement sparking right now in America so I get why people want to talk about it.</quote> I get it also, Biden is another corporate shill and doesnt fix the underlying problem, yada yada But Jesus Christ America, you're not in surgery right now. You're on the side of the road with your leg off and trying to have an argument about whether the EMT who arrived at the scene would make the best surgical candidate or not. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bevan306 06/28/20 5:57:47 PM #108:	there are two options and you should pick the one that doesn't enable literal nazis, it's not that complicated. Vote for the better option now and work towards a better option in the future because you're not gonna fix your "broken system" by ceding control of it to lunatic republicans again. And if you think the democats are as bad as republicans, after the past 4 years, I'd encourage you to start following politics at a basic level --- http://rateyourmusic.com/~bevan https://imgur.com/5Ta28 <cite>bevan306 posted [p:941396672] in About Bide... [t:78809360]...</cite> <quote>there are two options and you should pick the one that doesn't enable literal nazis, it's not that complicated. Vote for the better option now and work towards a better option in the future because you're not gonna fix your "broken system" by ceding control of it to lunatic republicans again. And if you think the democats are as bad as republicans, after the past 4 years, I'd encourage you to start following politics at a basic level </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 06/28/20 5:58:56 PM #109:	andel posted... progressivism is inevitable. It really isn't. It's something that has to be fought for at every step of the way. Now, that aside, to the broader discussion: Voting is something you do for five minutes (+ the time spent in line) in November. It's not something you need to take a blood oath for five months ahead of time. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:941396727] in About Bide... [t:78809360]...</cite> <quote>andel posted...</cite> <quote>progressivism is inevitable. </quote> It really isn't. It's something that has to be fought for at every step of the way. Now, that aside, to the broader discussion: Voting is something you do for five minutes (+ the time spent in line) in November. It's not something you need to take a blood oath for five months ahead of time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TopKekBro 06/28/20 5:59:47 PM #110:	pinky0926 posted... I get it also, Biden is another corporate shill and doesnt fix the underlying problem, yada yada But Jesus Christ America, you're not in surgery right now. You're on the side of the road with your leg off and trying to have an argument about whether the EMT who arrived at the scene would make the best surgical candidate or not. Theyre not being honest. they just care about free college, UBI and maybe wealth shaming. <cite>TopKekBro posted [p:941396764] in About Bide... [t:78809360]...</cite> <quote>pinky0926 posted... </cite> <quote>I get it also, Biden is another corporate shill and doesnt fix the underlying problem, yada yada But Jesus Christ America, you're not in surgery right now. You're on the side of the road with your leg off and trying to have an argument about whether the EMT who arrived at the scene would make the best surgical candidate or not.</quote> Theyre not being honest. they just care about free college, UBI and maybe wealth shaming. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I Like Toast 06/28/20 5:59:59 PM #111:	pinky0926 posted... If people voted in terms of urgently getting Trump out of office instead of humming and hahing about whether Biden is the best choice, America and subsequently the world would be a whole lot less fucky If the dnc would run an electable candide probably 30-50k Americans wouldn't be dead from covid. How do you lose to trump? Run a corporate stooge. Or even better if the dnc uses their popular vote majority to eliminate first past the post voting, we wouldn't be choosing between trump or Biden. So I'll continue to not support the system that allowed trump to win in the first place. --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:941396773] in About Bide... [t:78809360]...</cite> <quote>pinky0926 posted... </cite> <quote>If people voted in terms of urgently getting Trump out of office instead of humming and hahing about whether Biden is the best choice, America and subsequently the world would be a whole lot less fucky</quote>If the dnc would run an electable candide probably 30-50k Americans wouldn't be dead from covid. How do you lose to trump? Run a corporate stooge. Or even better if the dnc uses their popular vote majority to eliminate first past the post voting, we wouldn't be choosing between trump or Biden. So I'll continue to not support the system that allowed trump to win in the first place. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TopKekBro 06/28/20 6:00:47 PM #112:	I love how the trumpets in disguise act as if Obama has been George bush III. gay people gained marriage rights during his term! <cite>TopKekBro posted [p:941396809] in About Bide... [t:78809360]...</cite> <quote>I love how the trumpets in disguise act as if Obama has been George bush III. gay people gained marriage rights during his term! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ultimate reaver 06/28/20 6:01:40 PM #113:	lmao help im being wealth shamed --- I pray god will curse the writer, as the writer has cursed the world with this beautiful, stupendous creation, terrible in its simplicity, irresistible in truth <cite>ultimate reaver posted [p:941396846] in About Bide... [t:78809360]...</cite> <quote>lmao help im being wealth shamed </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I Like Toast 06/28/20 6:01:40 PM #114:	TopKekBro posted... I love how the trumpets in disguise act as if Obama has been George bush III. gay people gained marriage rights during his term! That they lost during Democrats Clinton. Feels like an odd choice to bring up. --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:941396847] in About Bide... [t:78809360]...</cite> <quote>TopKekBro posted... </cite> <quote>I love how the trumpets in disguise act as if Obama has been George bush III. gay people gained marriage rights during his term!</quote>That they lost during Democrats Clinton. Feels like an odd choice to bring up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pinky0926 06/28/20 6:03:30 PM #115:	I Like Toast posted... If the dnc would run an electable candide probably 30-50k Americans wouldn't be dead from covid. How do you lose to trump? Run a corporate stooge. Or even better if the dnc uses their popular vote majority to eliminate first past the post voting, we wouldn't be choosing between trump or Biden. So I'll continue to not support the system that allowed trump to win in the first place. Conversation for when you're in the hospital and have time to consider your best options imo. You're on the side of the road bleeding out, and you have a couple of months at best to pick the dopey EMT to provide basic life support. Or you can sit there and wait for another car to roll over you. I'm just a kooky foreigner though, so what do I know --- CE's Resident Scotsman. https://imgur.com/ILz2ZbV <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:941396912] in About Bide... [t:78809360]...</cite> <quote>I Like Toast posted... </cite> <quote>If the dnc would run an electable candide probably 30-50k Americans wouldn't be dead from covid. How do you lose to trump? Run a corporate stooge. Or even better if the dnc uses their popular vote majority to eliminate first past the post voting, we wouldn't be choosing between trump or Biden. So I'll continue to not support the system that allowed trump to win in the first place.</quote> Conversation for when you're in the hospital and have time to consider your best options imo. You're on the side of the road bleeding out, and you have a couple of months at best to pick the dopey EMT to provide basic life support. Or you can sit there and wait for another car to roll over you. I'm just a kooky foreigner though, so what do I know </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andel 06/28/20 6:04:07 PM #116:	Antifar posted... It really isn't. It's something that has to be fought for at every step of the way. Now, that aside, to the broader discussion: Voting is something you do for five minutes (+ the time spent in line) in November. It's not something you need to take a blood oath for five months ahead of time. it is, at least over a period of time. our society is slow at getting there but overall we have always moved towards progress in the long term --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:941396946] in About Bide... [t:78809360]...</cite> <quote>Antifar posted... </cite> <quote>It really isn't. It's something that has to be fought for at every step of the way. Now, that aside, to the broader discussion: Voting is something you do for five minutes (+ the time spent in line) in November. It's not something you need to take a blood oath for five months ahead of time.</quote> it is, at least over a period of time. our society is slow at getting there but overall we have always moved towards progress in the long term </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andel 06/28/20 6:05:52 PM #117:	I Like Toast posted... If the dnc would run an electable candide probably 30-50k Americans wouldn't be dead from covid. How do you lose to trump? Run a corporate stooge. Or even better if the dnc uses their popular vote majority to eliminate first past the post voting, we wouldn't be choosing between trump or Biden. So I'll continue to not support the system that allowed trump to win in the first place. you mean like biden, who is up 14-16 nationally and outside the margin of error in every swing state while leading in many traditionally red states? like biden, who garnered record primary turnout? and '16 isn't remotely comparable as biden leads by far, far more than clinton ever did --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:941397028] in About Bide... [t:78809360]...</cite> <quote>I Like Toast posted... </cite> <quote>If the dnc would run an electable candide probably 30-50k Americans wouldn't be dead from covid. How do you lose to trump? Run a corporate stooge. Or even better if the dnc uses their popular vote majority to eliminate first past the post voting, we wouldn't be choosing between trump or Biden. So I'll continue to not support the system that allowed trump to win in the first place.</quote> you mean like biden, who is up 14-16 nationally and outside the margin of error in every swing state while leading in many traditionally red states? like biden, who garnered record primary turnout? and '16 isn't remotely comparable as biden leads by far, far more than clinton ever did </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WizardPowers 06/28/20 6:06:44 PM #118:	Why should I vote biden instead of just not vote? I don't really care about trump. My life has remained unchanged throughout his term so far. Outside of covid shit. --- https://imgur.com/FS3aeNW https://imgur.com/Hy9IDHK <cite>WizardPowers posted [p:941397063] in About Bide... [t:78809360]...</cite> <quote>Why should I vote biden instead of just not vote? I don't really care about trump. My life has remained unchanged throughout his term so far. Outside of covid shit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andel 06/28/20 6:09:08 PM #119:	WizardPowers posted... Why should I vote biden instead of just not vote? I don't really care about trump. My life has remained unchanged throughout his term so far. Outside of covid shit. the severity of covid in america is directly trumps fault. also, people aside from yourself are greatly effected by trump but idk if you care about others or not --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:941397150] in About Bide... [t:78809360]...</cite> <quote>WizardPowers posted... </cite> <quote>Why should I vote biden instead of just not vote? I don't really care about trump. My life has remained unchanged throughout his term so far. Outside of covid shit.</quote> the severity of covid in america is directly trumps fault. also, people aside from yourself are greatly effected by trump but idk if you care about others or not </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I Like Toast 06/28/20 6:12:22 PM #120:	andel posted... you mean like biden, who is up 14-16 nationally and outside the margin of error in every swing state while leading in many traditionally red states? like biden, who garnered record primary turnout? Biden is only up because of how badly trump has bundled Corona. Polling as the same or worse than hillary before. Trump should ge unelectable against anyone, but instead of the DNC using it to leverage their way forward (why is it we have to settle for less with the anyone but trump policy?), they continue to go backward. pinky0926 posted... Conversation for when you're in the hospital and have time to consider your best options imo. You're on the side of the road bleeding out, and you have a couple of months at best to pick the dopey EMT to provide basic life support. Or you can sit there and wait for another car to roll over you. I'm just a kooky foreigner though, so what do I know Except your laying in that road bleeding out because the dnc ran over you while the gop is testing to see how hot they can make the road. And both I'd them laid down traps to stop the ambulance when you getting you. Voting for Biden is like getting the bill you're going to get for doing all of that uninsured. Because you aren't poor enough for the DNC and bot rich enough for the gop. If you want to keep ending up in the road bleeding out, keep voting for the lesser evil. --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:941397265] in About Bide... [t:78809360]...</cite> <quote>andel posted... </cite> <quote> you mean like biden, who is up 14-16 nationally and outside the margin of error in every swing state while leading in many traditionally red states? like biden, who garnered record primary turnout?</quote>Biden is only up because of how badly trump has bundled Corona. Polling as the same or worse than hillary before. Trump should ge unelectable against anyone, but instead of the DNC using it to leverage their way forward (why is it we have to settle for less with the anyone but trump policy?), they continue to go backward. pinky0926 posted... </cite> <quote>Conversation for when you're in the hospital and have time to consider your best options imo. You're on the side of the road bleeding out, and you have a couple of months at best to pick the dopey EMT to provide basic life support. Or you can sit there and wait for another car to roll over you. I'm just a kooky foreigner though, so what do I know</quote>Except your laying in that road bleeding out because the dnc ran over you while the gop is testing to see how hot they can make the road. And both I'd them laid down traps to stop the ambulance when you getting you. Voting for Biden is like getting the bill you're going to get for doing all of that uninsured. Because you aren't poor enough for the DNC and bot rich enough for the gop. If you want to keep ending up in the road bleeding out, keep voting for the lesser evil. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I Like Toast 06/28/20 6:14:07 PM #121:	WizardPowers posted... Why should I vote biden instead of just not vote? You should vote because the president isnt the only thing you vote on election day. Vote 3rd party to show you do vote and don't support the terrible choices both parties gave you. Research your local candidates where change is much easier to bring about. --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:941397329] in About Bide... [t:78809360]...</cite> <quote>WizardPowers posted... </cite> <quote>Why should I vote biden instead of just not vote?</quote>You should vote because the president isnt the only thing you vote on election day. Vote 3rd party to show you do vote and don't support the terrible choices both parties gave you. Research your local candidates where change is much easier to bring about. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andel 06/28/20 6:22:43 PM #122:	I Like Toast posted... Biden is only up because of how badly trump has bundled Corona. Polling as the same or worse than hillary before. Trump should ge unelectable against anyone, but instead of the DNC using it to leverage their way forward (why is it we have to settle for less with the anyone but trump policy?), they continue to go backward. Except your laying in that road bleeding out because the dnc ran over you while the gop is testing to see how hot they can make the road. And both I'd them laid down traps to stop the ambulance when you getting you. Voting for Biden is like getting the bill you're going to get for doing all of that uninsured. Because you aren't poor enough for the DNC and bot rich enough for the gop. If you want to keep ending up in the road bleeding out, keep voting for the lesser evil. actually he has polled better than hillary since he became the presumptive nominee and even before that. also biden's favorables are much, much higher than clinton's ever were and people are much more enthusiastic about voting for him --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:941397678] in About Bide... [t:78809360]...</cite> <quote>I Like Toast posted... </cite> <quote>Biden is only up because of how badly trump has bundled Corona. Polling as the same or worse than hillary before. Trump should ge unelectable against anyone, but instead of the DNC using it to leverage their way forward (why is it we have to settle for less with the anyone but trump policy?), they continue to go backward. Except your laying in that road bleeding out because the dnc ran over you while the gop is testing to see how hot they can make the road. And both I'd them laid down traps to stop the ambulance when you getting you. Voting for Biden is like getting the bill you're going to get for doing all of that uninsured. Because you aren't poor enough for the DNC and bot rich enough for the gop. If you want to keep ending up in the road bleeding out, keep voting for the lesser evil.</quote> actually he has polled better than hillary since he became the presumptive nominee and even before that. also biden's favorables are much, much higher than clinton's ever were and people are much more enthusiastic about voting for him </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I Like Toast 06/28/20 6:24:32 PM #123:	andel posted... and people are much more enthusiastic about voting for him And yet none of them exist. Only anyone but trump! Is warren trump? Is yang trump? Is bernie trump? Wow look they all have the only thing Biden has as a reason to vote. No wonder you didn't want address the rest of the post that already includes this so I have to type again for you snowflake --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:941397740] in About Bide... [t:78809360]...</cite> <quote>andel posted... </cite> <quote>and people are much more enthusiastic about voting for him</quote>And yet none of them exist. Only anyone but trump! Is warren trump? Is yang trump? Is bernie trump? Wow look they all have the only thing Biden has as a reason to vote. No wonder you didn't want address the rest of the post that already includes this so I have to type again for you snowflake </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andel 06/28/20 6:31:14 PM #124:	I Like Toast posted... And yet none of them exist. Only anyone but trump! Is warren trump? Is yang trump? Is bernie trump? Wow look they all have the only thing Biden has as a reason to vote. No wonder you didn't want address the rest of the post that already includes this so I have to type again for you snowflake i have dismantled your pathetic attempted points and pointed out your lies (or ignorance). none of who exist? biden generated record turnout in the '20 primaries. people are overwhelmingly more enthusiastic about biden than clinton or trump. people that don't like either favor biden by 40 points. you rightfully abandoned the idiotic points you tried to make when i bitchslapped them down, now all you can do is try to make unverifiable claims because you just aren't smart enough to defend your original posts or make a coherent counter. must suck being you lol --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:941398020] in About Bide... [t:78809360]...</cite> <quote>I Like Toast posted... </cite> <quote>And yet none of them exist. Only anyone but trump! Is warren trump? Is yang trump? Is bernie trump? Wow look they all have the only thing Biden has as a reason to vote. No wonder you didn't want address the rest of the post that already includes this so I have to type again for you snowflake</quote> i have dismantled your pathetic attempted points and pointed out your lies (or ignorance). none of who exist? biden generated record turnout in the '20 primaries. people are overwhelmingly more enthusiastic about biden than clinton or trump. people that don't like either favor biden by 40 points. you rightfully abandoned the idiotic points you tried to make when i bitchslapped them down, now all you can do is try to make unverifiable claims because you just aren't smart enough to defend your original posts or make a coherent counter. must suck being you lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 06/28/20 6:51:33 PM #125:	pinky0926 posted... I get it also, Biden is another corporate shill and doesnt fix the underlying problem, yada yada But Jesus Christ America, you're not in surgery right now. You're on the side of the road with your leg off and trying to have an argument about whether the EMT who arrived at the scene would make the best surgical candidate or not. Id frame it more as Trump being a serial killing cannibal who happens upon you on the road and devours you whereas Biden may not be an EMT but he is a guy who will do his best to help you. Unfortunately he just doesnt have a cell phone on him to call 911 for assistance. --- No Venezuelan fishermen ever called me a Bernie Bro. <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:941398835] in About Bide... [t:78809360]...</cite> <quote>pinky0926 posted... </cite> <quote>I get it also, Biden is another corporate shill and doesnt fix the underlying problem, yada yada But Jesus Christ America, you're not in surgery right now. You're on the side of the road with your leg off and trying to have an argument about whether the EMT who arrived at the scene would make the best surgical candidate or not.</quote> Id frame it more as Trump being a serial killing cannibal who happens upon you on the road and devours you whereas Biden may not be an EMT but he is a guy who will do his best to help you. Unfortunately he just doesnt have a cell phone on him to call 911 for assistance. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThisGuyAreSick 06/28/20 6:53:15 PM #126:	guy with 4chan inspired alt right meme in his username concern trolling and guilt shaming progressives for not having stockholm syndrome with the democratic party ok --- sigless <cite>ThisGuyAreSick posted [p:941398891] in About Bide... [t:78809360]...</cite> <quote>guy with 4chan inspired alt right meme in his username concern trolling and guilt shaming progressives for not having stockholm syndrome with the democratic party ok</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 06/28/20 6:55:39 PM #127:	I Like Toast posted... Polling as the same or worse than hillary before. This isn't true but neither is most of the shit you post. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:941398989] in About Bide... [t:78809360]...</cite> <quote>I Like Toast posted... </cite> <quote>Polling as the same or worse than hillary before.</quote> This isn't true but neither is most of the shit you post. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WizardPowers 06/28/20 6:56:58 PM #128:	andel posted... the severity of covid in america is directly trumps fault. also, people aside from yourself are greatly effected by trump but idk if you care about others or not Which others? And how would biden help them? --- https://imgur.com/FS3aeNW https://imgur.com/Hy9IDHK <cite>WizardPowers posted [p:941399037] in About Bide... [t:78809360]...</cite> <quote>andel posted... </cite> <quote>the severity of covid in america is directly trumps fault. also, people aside from yourself are greatly effected by trump but idk if you care about others or not</quote> Which others? And how would biden help them? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andel 06/28/20 7:01:47 PM #129:	WizardPowers posted... Which others? And how would biden help them? black/hispanic/gay/asian/poor people would all benefit under biden by not being the target of hate speech and policy that targets their civil rights before even getting into how democratic policy is inherently better for all those people and everyone but the uber rich --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:941399245] in About Bide... [t:78809360]...</cite> <quote>WizardPowers posted... </cite> <quote>Which others? And how would biden help them?</quote> black/hispanic/gay/asian/poor people would all benefit under biden by not being the target of hate speech and policy that targets their civil rights before even getting into how democratic policy is inherently better for all those people and everyone but the uber rich </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThisGuyAreSick 06/28/20 7:03:28 PM #130:	so many who posted --- sigless <cite>ThisGuyAreSick posted [p:941399304] in About Bide... [t:78809360]...</cite> <quote>so many who posted</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WizardPowers 06/28/20 7:03:40 PM #131:	andel posted... black/hispanic/gay/asian/poor people would all benefit under biden by not being the target of hate speech and policy that targets their civil rights before even getting into how democratic policy is inherently better for all those people and everyone but the uber rich Biden does not have a good history with most of those groups though lol --- https://imgur.com/FS3aeNW https://imgur.com/Hy9IDHK <cite>WizardPowers posted [p:941399310] in About Bide... [t:78809360]...</cite> <quote>andel posted... </cite> <quote>black/hispanic/gay/asian/poor people would all benefit under biden by not being the target of hate speech and policy that targets their civil rights before even getting into how democratic policy is inherently better for all those people and everyone but the uber rich</quote> Biden does not have a good history with most of those groups though lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andel 06/28/20 7:04:02 PM #132:	WizardPowers posted... Biden does not have a good history with most of those groups though lol he does though --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:941399327] in About Bide... [t:78809360]...</cite> <quote>WizardPowers posted... </cite> <quote>Biden does not have a good history with most of those groups though lol</quote> he does though </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WizardPowers 06/28/20 7:06:52 PM #134:	andel posted... he does though Why lie about something so obviously false --- https://imgur.com/FS3aeNW https://imgur.com/Hy9IDHK <cite>WizardPowers posted [p:941399431] in About Bide... [t:78809360]...</cite> <quote>andel posted... </cite> <quote>he does though</quote> Why lie about something so obviously false </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 06/28/20 7:07:06 PM #135:	Spooking posted... andel wouldn't know that. We don't need the Trump supporters to chime in. They have no legs to stand on --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:941399442] in About Bide... [t:78809360]...</cite> <quote>Spooking posted... </cite> <quote>andel wouldn't know that.</quote>We don't need the Trump supporters to chime in. They have no legs to stand on </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Garioshi 06/28/20 7:07:55 PM #136:	Biden will just continue the neoliberal status quo that lead to Trump in the first place. --- "I play with myself" - Darklit_Minuet, 2018 https://store.steampowered.com/wishlist/profiles/76561198312621819/#sort=order <cite>Garioshi posted [p:941399470] in About Bide... [t:78809360]...</cite> <quote>Biden will just continue the neoliberal status quo that lead to Trump in the first place. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andel 06/28/20 7:08:23 PM #137:	WizardPowers posted... Why lie about something so obviously false feel free to detail how it is false hockeybub89 posted... We don't need the Trump supporters to chime in. They have no legs to stand on what did he say? he has me blocked lol i guess he stays triggered --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:941399490] in About Bide... [t:78809360]...</cite> <quote>WizardPowers posted... </cite> <quote>Why lie about something so obviously false</quote> feel free to detail how it is false hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>We don't need the Trump supporters to chime in. They have no legs to stand on</quote> what did he say? he has me blocked lol i guess he stays triggered </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 06/28/20 7:08:52 PM #138:	Garioshi posted... Biden will just continue the neoliberal status quo don't threaten me with a good time <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:941399504] in About Bide... [t:78809360]...</cite> <quote>Garioshi posted... </cite> <quote>Biden will just continue the neoliberal status quo</quote> don't threaten me with a good time </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ElatedVenusaur 06/28/20 7:11:42 PM #139:	andel posted... he does though You realize we're discussing Joe Robinette Biden, former Obama VP and Senator from Delaware who criticized Ronald Reagan for being "soft on drugs", was a primary architect of bills which caused the ballooning of our prison population, the guy who never met a segregationist he didn't love, the man who viciously humiliated a rape survivor on national television to run interference for f*ing Clarence Thomas, was a primary architect of a bill that made it harder for individuals to declare bankruptcy(and impossible to discharge student loan debt at all), has long pushed for cuts to Social Security, has been a massive hawk for decades, including being the most prominent Democrat pushing for the war in Iraq, and was a gleeful participant in Obama's expansion of of border "security"? That's the guy you think is the friend of anyone worth less than $1 million? Look, it's okay if you come to different conclusions, but you shouldn't hide from the reality of who Joe Biden is and what he represents and what his presidency could mean. <cite>ElatedVenusaur posted [p:941399619] in About Bide... [t:78809360]...</cite> <quote>andel posted... </cite> <quote>he does though</quote>You realize we're discussing Joe Robinette Biden, former Obama VP and Senator from Delaware who criticized Ronald Reagan for being "soft on drugs", was a primary architect of bills which caused the ballooning of our prison population, the guy who never met a segregationist he didn't love, the man who viciously humiliated a rape survivor on national television to run interference for f*ing Clarence Thomas, was a primary architect of a bill that made it harder for individuals to declare bankruptcy(and impossible to discharge student loan debt at all), has long pushed for cuts to Social Security, has been a massive hawk for decades, including being the most prominent Democrat pushing for the war in Iraq, and was a gleeful participant in Obama's expansion of of border "security"? That's the guy you think is the friend of anyone worth less than $1 million? Look, it's okay if you come to different conclusions, but you shouldn't hide from the reality of who Joe Biden is and what he represents and what his presidency could mean. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WizardPowers 06/28/20 7:15:48 PM #140:	andel posted... feel free to detail how it is false Because he's done nothing substantial to help those groups outside of lip service (which is only recent in the past couple of years) and has supported bills that acitvely hurt most of those groups? Feel free to list off substantial things he's done for each group though. I don't know his entire life. --- https://imgur.com/FS3aeNW https://imgur.com/Hy9IDHK <cite>WizardPowers posted [p:941399785] in About Bide... [t:78809360]...</cite> <quote>andel posted... </cite> <quote>feel free to detail how it is false</quote> Because he's done nothing substantial to help those groups outside of lip service (which is only recent in the past couple of years) and has supported bills that acitvely hurt most of those groups? Feel free to list off substantial things he's done for each group though. I don't know his entire life. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andel 06/28/20 7:20:43 PM #141:	ElatedVenusaur posted... You realize we're discussing Joe Robinette Biden, former Obama VP and Senator from Delaware who criticized Ronald Reagan for being "soft on drugs", was a primary architect of bills which caused the ballooning of our prison population, the guy who never met a segregationist he didn't love, the man who viciously humiliated a rape survivor on national television to run interference for f**ing Clarence Thomas, was a primary architect of a bill that made it harder for individuals to declare bankruptcy(and impossible to discharge student loan debt at all), has long pushed for cuts to Social Security, has been a massive hawk for decades, including being the most prominent Democrat pushing for the war in Iraq, and was a gleeful participant in Obama's expansion of of border "security"? That's the guy you think is the friend of anyone worth less than $1 million? Look, it's okay if you come to different conclusions, but you shouldn't hide from the reality of who Joe Biden is and what he represents and what his presidency could mean. the thing about democrats is that they move to the left as their constituents do. biden has always been an advocate for civil rights and equality, he pushed obama to recognize gay marriage quicker than obama wanted to. as for being a corporatist, he has had issues with that but guess what? biden is all for raising taxes on the top percentage of earners. he is no bernie sanders or even close but he is moving the right direction which is far more than we would get with trump or any gopeon --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:941399966] in About Bide... [t:78809360]...</cite> <quote>ElatedVenusaur posted... </cite> <quote>You realize we're discussing Joe Robinette Biden, former Obama VP and Senator from Delaware who criticized Ronald Reagan for being "soft on drugs", was a primary architect of bills which caused the ballooning of our prison population, the guy who never met a segregationist he didn't love, the man who viciously humiliated a rape survivor on national television to run interference for f**ing Clarence Thomas, was a primary architect of a bill that made it harder for individuals to declare bankruptcy(and impossible to discharge student loan debt at all), has long pushed for cuts to Social Security, has been a massive hawk for decades, including being the most prominent Democrat pushing for the war in Iraq, and was a gleeful participant in Obama's expansion of of border "security"? That's the guy you think is the friend of anyone worth less than $1 million? Look, it's okay if you come to different conclusions, but you shouldn't hide from the reality of who Joe Biden is and what he represents and what his presidency could mean.</quote> the thing about democrats is that they move to the left as their constituents do. biden has always been an advocate for civil rights and equality, he pushed obama to recognize gay marriage quicker than obama wanted to. as for being a corporatist, he has had issues with that but guess what? biden is all for raising taxes on the top percentage of earners. he is no bernie sanders or even close but he is moving the right direction which is far more than we would get with trump or any gopeon </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andel 06/28/20 7:27:42 PM #142:	WizardPowers posted... Because he's done nothing substantial to help those groups outside of lip service (which is only recent in the past couple of years) and has supported bills that acitvely hurt most of those groups? Feel free to list off substantial things he's done for each group though. I don't know his entire life. he convinced obama to go ahead with supporting gay marriage before he wanted to. he fought for civil rights for black americans from the 70s onward to the present day. his current platform is very inclusive of minorities of every background. are you seriously trying to say he is the same as trump here? that would be really ignorant --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:941400224] in About Bide... [t:78809360]...</cite> <quote>WizardPowers posted... </cite> <quote>Because he's done nothing substantial to help those groups outside of lip service (which is only recent in the past couple of years) and has supported bills that acitvely hurt most of those groups? Feel free to list off substantial things he's done for each group though. I don't know his entire life. </quote> he convinced obama to go ahead with supporting gay marriage before he wanted to. he fought for civil rights for black americans from the 70s onward to the present day. his current platform is very inclusive of minorities of every background. are you seriously trying to say he is the same as trump here? that would be really ignorant </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WizardPowers 06/28/20 7:30:15 PM #143:	andel posted... he convinced obama to go ahead with supporting gay marriage before he wanted to. he fought for civil rights for black americans from the 70s onward to the present day. his current platform is very inclusive of minorities of every background. are you seriously trying to say he is the same as trump here? that would be really ignorant No I'm not. What legislation has he tried to pass / supported that outweigh all the negative ones? --- https://imgur.com/FS3aeNW https://imgur.com/Hy9IDHK <cite>WizardPowers posted [p:941400296] in About Bide... [t:78809360]...</cite> <quote>andel posted... </cite> <quote>he convinced obama to go ahead with supporting gay marriage before he wanted to. he fought for civil rights for black americans from the 70s onward to the present day. his current platform is very inclusive of minorities of every background. are you seriously trying to say he is the same as trump here? that would be really ignorant</quote> No I'm not. What legislation has he tried to pass / supported that outweigh all the negative ones? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andel 06/28/20 7:31:33 PM #144:	WizardPowers posted... No I'm not. What legislation has he tried to pass / supported that outweigh all the negative ones? first you will need to post these supposed negatives and make sure they aren't things that everyone supported at the time --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:941400332] in About Bide... [t:78809360]...</cite> <quote>WizardPowers posted... </cite> <quote>No I'm not. What legislation has he tried to pass / supported that outweigh all the negative ones?</quote> first you will need to post these supposed negatives and make sure they aren't things that everyone supported at the time </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ehhwhatever 06/28/20 7:34:15 PM #145:	Biden might be a do-nothing President, maybe a good thing. Let Congress handle things. --- hey I know what is expected of me, I tried. If you got something out of what my last bit(spring has sprung, wild planet), go for it. <cite>ehhwhatever posted [p:941400432] in About Bide... [t:78809360]...</cite> <quote>Biden might be a do-nothing President, maybe a good thing. Let Congress handle things. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 06/28/20 7:35:07 PM #146:	Nobody has an obligation to vote against Trump any more than they do an obligation to stop him with direct force --- This signature won't be changed until at least one out of Astrograph Sorcerer, Double-Iris Magician, Performapal Monkeyboard or Electrumite is unbanned. 2/15/20 <cite>Doe posted [p:941400460] in About Bide... [t:78809360]...</cite> <quote>Nobody has an obligation to vote against Trump any more than they do an obligation to stop him with direct force </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WizardPowers 06/28/20 7:35:10 PM #147:	andel posted... first you will need to post these supposed negatives and make sure they aren't things that everyone supported at the time "Lots of people supported it back them so that gives it a pass" isn't a good argument --- https://imgur.com/FS3aeNW https://imgur.com/Hy9IDHK <cite>WizardPowers posted [p:941400463] in About Bide... [t:78809360]...</cite> <quote>andel posted... </cite> <quote>first you will need to post these supposed negatives and make sure they aren't things that everyone supported at the time</quote> "Lots of people supported it back them so that gives it a pass" isn't a good argument </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andel 06/28/20 7:38:47 PM #148:	WizardPowers posted... "Lots of people supported it back them so that gives it a pass" isn't a good argument it is understandable. bernie voted for the crime bill too, it was a mistake everyone made at the time. you seem unable to articulate your concerns here though --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:941400595] in About Bide... [t:78809360]...</cite> <quote>WizardPowers posted... </cite> <quote>"Lots of people supported it back them so that gives it a pass" isn't a good argument</quote> it is understandable. bernie voted for the crime bill too, it was a mistake everyone made at the time. you seem unable to articulate your concerns here though </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anticyclonic 06/28/20 7:40:46 PM #149:	You're as much a problem as our shitty 2 party system. Im gonna leverage my vote, and do whatever the fuck I think makes our country better, since no concessions are made in my platform by stupid pieces of shit who think they got me by the balls with the "Trump is worse" card. Ok...then convince me why. Do the work. Cuz neither are interested in attacking the tens of thousands who die annually from lack of insurance. Neither are actual half way capable of stumbling through a sentence. --- If this signature appears blue, you need to consider not doing whatever it is you're doing. <cite>Anticyclonic posted [p:941400681] in About Bide... [t:78809360]...</cite> <quote>You're as much a problem as our shitty 2 party system. Im gonna leverage my vote, and do whatever the fuck I think makes our country better, since no concessions are made in my platform by stupid pieces of shit who think they got me by the balls with the "Trump is worse" card. Ok...then convince me why. Do the work. Cuz neither are interested in attacking the tens of thousands who die annually from lack of insurance. Neither are actual half way capable of stumbling through a sentence. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WizardPowers 06/28/20 7:42:48 PM #150:	andel posted... it is understandable. bernie voted for the crime bill too, it was a mistake everyone made at the time. you seem unable to articulate your concerns here though I mean I asked what makes him better and you gave a very poor argument. I asked for specific legislation he's tried to get passed or at least supported and you haven't given any. Until you do that the conversation can't go much further --- https://imgur.com/FS3aeNW https://imgur.com/Hy9IDHK <cite>WizardPowers posted [p:941400760] in About Bide... [t:78809360]...</cite> <quote>andel posted... </cite> <quote>it is understandable. bernie voted for the crime bill too, it was a mistake everyone made at the time. you seem unable to articulate your concerns here though</quote> I mean I asked what makes him better and you gave a very poor argument. I asked for specific legislation he's tried to get passed or at least supported and you haven't given any. Until you do that the conversation can't go much further </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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