Current Events > Tesla electric vehicles as lowest quality auto brand in 2020 study

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2020/06/24/jd-power-iqs-tesla-electric-vehicles-2020/3249943001/

Tesla earned the worst score among the 32 major vehicle brands in J.D. Power's 2020 Initial Quality Study due to various problems reported by owners.

Gee, who woulda thought an untested brand built on hype would disappoint..

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Folks, you hate to see it.
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Wonder if those trucks he's making will just explode

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Womp womp

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Irony posted...

Wonder if those trucks he's making will just explode

The truck never existed (it was just a shell on a generic "sled", it was only hyped up so Tesla could report a positive outlook on their financials, AND they get a tax free loan in the form of those preorders they'll eventually cancel on and refund.

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"J.D. Power and Associates are pedophiles in league with Epstein and are sabotaging innovation!" - Elon Musk

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But but but Elon!

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When TSLA crashes, it's going to be legendary
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UnholyMudcrab posted...

When TSLA crashes, it's going to be legendary

I'll buy all in at that point

This is the last breath of impotent boomer rage against Tesla, folks.

Stock is up another 8% today for crushing Q2 delivery estimates. They're selling as many as they can produce without advertising because people love the cars so much. Sorry JD, no one actually cares about panel gaps being a millimeter off. The overall product is decades ahead of the competition.

This is a battery company that just so happens to produce the car that ends legacy fossil fuel brands. Bezos is next on the chopping block and he knows it.

I hate Tesla and Elon too, but stop hating for the lamest possible reasons and recognize the steam they're picking up before you get run over.

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Krojen posted...

I hate Tesla and Elon too

You're gonna have to do a much better job of convincing us of that
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hahahaahah
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Krojen posted...

This is the last breath of impotent boomer rage against Tesla, folks.

Stock is up another 8% today for crushing Q2 delivery estimates. They're selling as many as they can produce without advertising because people love the cars so much. Sorry JD, no one actually cares about panel gaps being a millimeter off. The overall product is decades ahead of the competition.

This is a battery company that just so happens to produce the car that ends legacy fossil fuel brands. Bezos is next on the chopping block and he knows it.

I hate Tesla and Elon too, but stop hating for the lamest possible reasons and recognize the steam they're picking up before you get run over.

I'm all for electric, self driving cars, tesla is just a shit company

It seems your fanboyism is clouding your judgement

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UnholyMudcrab posted...

You're gonna have to do a much better job of convincing us of that

I'm a Bernie bro. Elon is a standard narcissist CEO that is ruthless towards his workers to chase his own fantasies. Tesla is just another soulless trash corp in that image. I enjoy the car and his clowning of Bezos, oil, etc. None of that means I personally like the man or the company.

I come off gloating about Tesla's success because I had to hear an earful of garbage from my inner circles, media, and people online about how I was an idiot for loading up on Tesla stock when it crashed below $200 last year. I knew it was the opportunity of a lifetime and I can't help but take a victory lap while up 7 figures not even a year later. I'm unbearably smug over it but I've almost got it out of my system lol

Hating Tesla and their vehicles because of minor QC issues on parts of the interior, panel gaps, etc. That's missing the forest for the trees so hard it's just as cringe as the people who think Elon is a genius superhero saving the world. Boomer media hopped from one pathetic reason to the next about why Tesla would fail. Now that Tesla's succeeded the best they got is "well your paint job is meh for a 60k car >:P" Impotent. Sorry Tesla won't spend ad money on your network.

I'll have an engineer come over to fix any little annoyance for free while whatever dealer you bought your car from tells you to deal with it.

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hilarious because the stock has been skyrocketing and yesterday they became the highest valued car manufacturer on the market

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When you can't even get JD Power to make you look good

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The Trent posted...

hilarious because the stock has been skyrocketing and yesterday they became the highest valued car manufacturer on the market

because they moved 90,000 cars last month...which is way higher than expected by EXPERTS....which added with this article explains everything perfeclty

Makes sense. You want a premium car, you buy from a premium automaker. Tesla is neither.

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@CableZL has a different ownership experience than the owners surveyed

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Isn't JD Power's "initial quality" mainly based on just # of complaints in the first x months of ownership, regardless of how minor? Recall hearing that before, like how Fords were constantly near the bottom for a while just because people couldn't figure out the Sync system when it was new, not that the vehicles had particularly high rates of actual issues.

Edit: Well, I guess the article backs me up there, but also that Tesla did have quite a few other issues.
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JDP receives its biggest donations from exxon, chevron, and bp...

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UnholyMudcrab posted...

When TSLA crashes, it's going to be legendary

Except it won't.

Their stock price says otherwise.

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I love my 2020 Mustang GT. I'm sure it scored poorly but still.

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The Trent posted...

hilarious because the stock has been skyrocketing and yesterday they became the highest valued car manufacturer on the market

No way.

They were valued around 40 billion last i saw. VW is worth 90 billion and toyota is over 200 billion.

How did they jump 160 billion dollars in under a year?

if you meant American brands only i could believe it easily. But worldwide? Not a chance.

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Well I'll be darned, Mustang actually won its car division.

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Is jd power like the bbb?

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The Trent posted...

@CableZL has a different ownership experience than the owners surveyed

Eh, my car definitely has minor issues that have and still do need to be solved, but I'm more than happy with the car.

Issues I have or have had:

Paint imperfections. I didn't notice them, but most of these were fixed by the company I took it to for the ceramic coating.

The trim on the inside of a couple of the doors was coming off. They sent someone to my apartment to fix this.

Satellite radio doesn't work sometimes. Rebooting the car fixes this. That phrase still feels weird to say. It hasn't happened after recent software updates, though. Hopefully it's fixed permanently.

Summon mode - there was a brief period where my phone wouldn't connect to the car properly and I couldn't use summon mode. I'm thinking this was just on a particular software version. It didn't happen at first and it hasn't happened recently.

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Actually, I'm supposed to fill out a survey on this regard... I'm gonna do that

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I thought everyone but GM knew that JD Power is worthless.

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The religious loyalty people have to that brand is disturbing

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CableZL posted...

Eh, my car definitely has minor issues that have and still do need to be solved, but I'm more than happy with the car.

Issues I have or have had:

Paint imperfections. I didn't notice them, but most of these were fixed by the company I took it to for the ceramic coating.

The trim on the inside of a couple of the doors was coming off. They sent someone to my apartment to fix this.

Satellite radio doesn't work sometimes. Rebooting the car fixes this. That phrase still feels weird to say. It hasn't happened after recent software updates, though. Hopefully it's fixed permanently.

Summon mode - there was a brief period where my phone wouldn't connect to the car properly and I couldn't use summon mode. I'm thinking this was just on a particular software version. It didn't happen at first and it hasn't happened recently.

The trim on the inside would be the most bothersome to me
The rest not so much

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CanuckCowboy posted...

No way.

They were valued around 40 billion last i saw. VW is worth 90 billion and toyota is over 200 billion.

How did they jump 160 billion dollars in under a year?

if you meant American brands only i could believe it easily. But worldwide? Not a chance.

Yeah i meant american sorry

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CanuckCowboy posted...

No way.

They were valued around 40 billion last i saw. VW is worth 90 billion and toyota is over 200 billion.

How did they jump 160 billion dollars in under a year?

if you meant American brands only i could believe it easily. But worldwide? Not a chance.

They were comically undervalued last year. Which is why I pounced. Teslas at 225B now.


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Krojen posted...

They were comically undervalued last year. Which is why I pounced. Teslas at 225B now.

Holy shit. How? Thats insane.

VW includes audi, porsche, lambo, and bugatti. And i think one or two others. Im fairly sure they own skoda and maybe peugot or renault?

Not sure about toyota but they for sure own Lexus ans daihatsu.

Toyota being so high confuses me but i mean relative to tesla they got a fuckton of cars on the road.

I cant comprehend that number for tesla. I believe you but.... how?

huh. Well they did get a 100 billion evaluation in january. Cant find more current numbers.

Either way theyre at worst 2 world wide i guess.

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CanuckCowboy posted...

Holy shit. How? Thats insane.

VW includes audi, porsche, lambo, and bugatti. And i think one or two others. Im fairly sure they own skoda and maybe peugot or renault?

Not sure about toyota but they for sure own Lexus ans daihatsu.

Toyota being so high confuses me but i mean relative to tesla they got a fuckton of cars on the road.

I cant comprehend that number for tesla. I believe you but.... how?

huh. Well they did get a 100 billion evaluation in january. Cant find more current numbers.

Either way theyre at worst 2 world wide i guess.

You can just google Tesla stock and compare market caps.

I'll explain.
What other car companies...

• can produce an EV with the range, power, and scale that Tesla does?
• are on Tesla's level for autonomous vehicles?
• have giga factories across the world mass producing million mile batteries?
• are starting mass production of autonomous semi trucks?
• have a promising solar and green energy businesses?
• have the services potential (insurance, subscriptions, taxi, etc) that Tesla does?

The answer to all of the above is: none. And I've barely gotten started. The other brands are just littered with infrastructure to produce gas cars that no one will want (or likely be banned) sooner than later.

Tesla isn't just a car company and it's starting to be more correctly valued as a tech company along the lines of Amazon.

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TheGoldenState posted...

JDP receives its biggest donations from exxon, chevron, and bp...

As does most traditional media which is why there's always a vague rooting-to-fail energy covering Tesla that gets absorbed by many viewers. If it wasn't for Elon's dumb twitter antics and reddit bros fanboying him, most people that hate Tesla probably couldn't explain why they feel the way they do.

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