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legendary_zell
07/04/20 5:49:29 PM
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Annihilated posted...
Race based voter suppression does not exist and school segregation has been illegal since the 60s, unless you're including college campuses who try to segregate graduations, housing, and other things. That of course is systemic racism, but nobody talks about that because they condone it.

Thank you for discrediting yourself. I didn't even need to do anything. Go back to Voat.

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Annihilated
07/04/20 5:52:17 PM
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legendary_zell posted...
Thank you for discrediting yourself. I didn't even need to do anything. Go back to Voat.

I didn't, but you're welcome to chicken out since you have zero supporting evidence like always.
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Tyranthraxus
07/04/20 5:53:23 PM
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Annihilated posted...
I didn't, but you're welcome to chicken out since you have zero supporting evidence like always.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/20/politics/gwinnett-county-absentee-ballots/index.html

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ThanksUglyGod
07/04/20 5:57:21 PM
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Annihilated posted...
I didn't, but you're welcome to chicken out since you have zero supporting evidence like always.
If you were actually concerned about evidence, you would've done what all scientists do, which is look for credible evidence that disproves your hypothesis. Something that could easily be done with a page 1 Google search.
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R_Jackal
07/04/20 5:58:34 PM
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As someone who practices "I don't give a fuck about what race you are, it's all respect based" most use it as an excuse to be a dick and awful person--so it's pretty racist on the average.

People like to use it to ignore other races problems and put it all in the person ignoring stereotyping and societal fears and other shit that causes actual problems as a "lol it happened in the past move on" kinda deal. Not the proper way to do it at all.

So, much like everything else, depends on how and who is doing it. Most of the time it's all thinly veiled racism.
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nfearurspecimn
07/04/20 6:04:06 PM
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It's not racist in theory, but generally the people who make these kind of comments are racist so...
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Annihilated
07/04/20 6:05:01 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/20/politics/gwinnett-county-absentee-ballots/index.html

lol nice try. This is from your very article.

Officials tossed out the ballots due to missing birthdates, address discrepancies, signatures that do not match those on registration records and other issues, according to the data.

The "voter suppression" myth has also been debunked many times.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/data-disprove-the-voter-suppression-myth-11557268819
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/503944-if-georgia-primary-was-an-attempt-at-voter-suppression-it-failed-badly
https://www.insidesources.com/the-myth-of-voter-suppression/
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VTBM
07/04/20 6:19:14 PM
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Everything is racist!

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Tyranthraxus
07/04/20 8:46:08 PM
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Annihilated posted...
signatures that do not match those on registration records
Do you understand how ridiculous this is?

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DevsBro
07/04/20 8:48:56 PM
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Yes

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Voxwik
07/04/20 8:54:08 PM
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The quote the coworker gave is the mentality of a five year old child.

There is no excuse for treating someone badly, ever. It's ridiculous that some of the very basic principles of maturity are rejected by people. You are responsible for your own actions. No one else is. Period.
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Taharqa_
07/04/20 8:58:16 PM
#62:


Annihilated posted...
lol nice try. This is from your very article.

The "voter suppression" myth has also been debunked many times.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/data-disprove-the-voter-suppression-myth-11557268819
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/503944-if-georgia-primary-was-an-attempt-at-voter-suppression-it-failed-badly
https://www.insidesources.com/the-myth-of-voter-suppression/

Right wing sources that downplay voter suppression? Brilliant!

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coh
07/04/20 8:59:14 PM
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Literally the opposite of racism
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MajesticFerret
07/04/20 9:04:44 PM
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It depends.

When it comes to empathizing, you shouldn't be color blind.

When it comes to interacting with people, I would argue anything else other than being color blind makes you racist.

The way I see it, if a POC wants to voice their grievances, you should listen, but if you walk around assuming these grievances define the person, you will likely overcalibrate, and wind up indirectly condescending to them and treating them like a charity case...which while good intentioned, is racist.

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Voxwik
07/04/20 9:05:21 PM
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Voter suppression is 100% real, and we live it in Wisconsin. It's not race based though, it's political in nature. First of all gerrymandering IS voter suppression. It is absolutely atrocious that people winning 45% of the vote can control a supermajority of legislative power. Then, when the Republicans lost the attorney general position and the governorship, they immediately legislated away power from those positions.

Then, in the middle of a pandemic, they forced an election for a state supreme court position knowing full well that a mere 5 of 180 polling stations would be open in our most populous city, which is obviously not a Republican stronghold. They specifically pushed the election through to steal that supreme court election, to solidify their ending of political freedom in Wisconsin.

The most satisfying thing? They tried to steal it and still lost the seat. But voter suppression is very real, especially through the demolition of checks and balances. Wisconsin's government represents a minority of its population. That is disgusting.
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Kaliesto
07/04/20 11:25:45 PM
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This is one of those questions that really doesn't have one straight answer; it depends on well your country has handled race in general, and the social norms.

The sad truth every country has a checkered past which some have moved past and others have not, and some countries still have ongoing ethnic violence.

Other problems -

I would say North America needs to be more honest in History Classes rather than shying away from the ugliness of history; today's generations would probably be very different on how they approach these subjects than how they do now.

I doubt we would be seeing protests as well.

The only side-effect that it could produce Race Judgers, and Extremists if True History is handled very improperly, but that could theoretically only make a few people become that way.

I think of the racial crimes today is more of a leftover from the 20th century that is still ongoing.

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Voxwik
07/05/20 12:42:34 AM
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Kaliesto posted...
I would say North America needs to be more honest in History Classes rather than shying away from the ugliness of history; today's generations would probably be very different on how they approach these subjects than how they do now.

My history classes in school were very honest. This was in rural southeastern Wisconsin, in Paul Ryan's former district.

I see a lot of people assume the history classes here are sugar-coated propaganda, but where is that true? It certainly wasn't true here.
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Kaliesto
07/05/20 12:55:26 AM
#69:


Voxwik posted...
My history classes in school were very honest. This was in rural southeastern Wisconsin, in Paul Ryan's former district.

I see a lot of people assume the history classes here are sugar-coated propaganda, but where is that true? It certainly wasn't true here.


Given this was back when I was in school; things may have changed since then. I know the most recent being Christopher Columbus; they gave him a more neutral light back in my school days, but they never really gave the full scope of what he truly was that people talk about now.

Another being the Tulsa Massacre as another recent example; definitely was never taught about that one.

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Voxwik
07/05/20 1:09:56 AM
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That's a shame. They didn't teach young kids about the reality of Columbus, but they did teach us in middle/high school.
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