Current Events > Tessa Thomson: I promise phase 4 of Marvel will be more diverse.

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ZannoL
07/05/20 4:18:12 PM
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Are you okay with seeing different kinds of people or are you threatened by it?


https://movieweb.com/thor-love-thunder-tessa-thomson-diversity-marvel-movies/

Tessa Thompson won the hearts of MCU fans playing the role of the alcoholic, quixotic, steely, but kind-hearted Valkyrie in Thor: Ragnarok and later Avengers movies. And she will have quite a substantial role in the upcoming Thor: Love and Thunder, where it is confirmed that she'll be on the hunt for her queen. During a recent interview, Thomspon revealed that the next phase of Marvel movies will offer a lot more in terms of diversity

"I think in this next phase of Marvel, we're really talking about what representation looks like in those spaces. Because the truth is these movies travel globally in such huge ways, and if you can represent people that are of color, if you can represent people with disabilities, if you can represent the LGBTQIA community inside of these films, it's a pretty big deal."

"There's millions and millions of people, particularly young people, that show up to the cinema. And I think if you can show them something that looks like them, they feel valued. Particularly inside of these narratives of the comic books, that's what it's all about. It's that our differences make us special."

As Tessa Thompson is pointing out, diversity has been something of a sore point for Marvel in recent times, as the conversation around race and racism become a focal point of debate within the country. Anthony Mackie, who plays the role of The Falcon in the MCU, recently lambasted the Marvel franchise for token attempts at diversity.

"It really bothered me that I've done seven Marvel movies where every producer, every director, every stunt person, every costume designer, every PA, every single person has been white. But then when you do Black Panther, you have a Black director, Black producer, a Black costume designer, a Black stunt choreographer. And I'm like, that's more racist than anything else. Because if you only can hire the Black people for the Black movie, are you saying they're not good enough when you have a mostly white cast?"

Gabriel Luna, who plays the role of Ghost Rider on the tv show Agents of Shield, backed Mackie's statement on Twitter while revealing the difficulty in getting a standalone film for his character made.

"To think we were right on the launchpad with Ghost Rider and still couldn't get it made. An opportunity lost to have a Mexican-American lead in a world where films with Latino leads make up less than 3%."

Thompsons's statement is the latest sally in the evolving debate around diversity in the MCU. The actress will next be seen in Thor: Love and Thunder, where her character's LGBTQ status will be confirmed onscreen.

I'm really excited that we're able to continue to push the bounds of that and that I'm able to do that with Valkyrie because there's so many cool queer characters in the comic books and they should have a place on-screen."

Another upcoming MCU movie The Eternals is also set to introduce Marvel's first openly gay superhero. Hopefully, the conversation around diversity in the MCU will take a more positive turn in the coming days as the franchise expands to encompass not just its fictional universe but the entire multiverse.



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Reis
07/05/20 4:18:43 PM
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more tessa thompson is good for me so sure
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Paper_Okami
07/05/20 4:20:45 PM
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will the movies be actually good though?

They're pretty typical blockbusters right now

best i've seen is Black Panther
but it never goes beyond being more than a pretty good movie

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nemu
07/05/20 4:21:12 PM
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I dislike this fetishization of diversity, like being purposely diverse is a virtue. Big corporations checking off the list is just the commercialization of it rather than fostering an open and encouraging environment.
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EndOfDiscOne
07/05/20 4:22:58 PM
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Theres a reason Black Panther is the best Marvel movie to date

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Vyrulisse
07/05/20 4:23:32 PM
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Should ask her if that applies to Chinese releases.

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ZannoL
07/05/20 4:26:07 PM
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https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2490200/the-eternals-actor-reveals-marvels-first-major-same-sex-relationship

Eternals will feature a superhero who is a gay family man. That would have been completely unheard of 10 years ago. Things are definitely changing
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crazybones
07/05/20 4:26:48 PM
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why is thor being played by natalie portman again? thor is a big strong man.

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Jabodie
07/05/20 4:28:06 PM
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So is current Thor going to be a GotG? Because that would be sweet.

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Gobstoppers12
07/05/20 4:28:28 PM
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EndOfDiscOne posted...
Theres a reason Black Panther is the best Marvel movie to date
It really, really isn't though. It's mid-tier at best, and the CGI is shoddy compared to other mid-tier Marvel films like Ant-Man.

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KevinDunn
07/05/20 4:28:39 PM
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EndOfDiscOne posted...
Theres a reason Black Panther is the best Marvel movie to date
not even top 5
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Zikten
07/05/20 4:30:10 PM
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crazybones posted...
why is thor being played by natalie portman again? thor is a big strong man.


in the comics, Thor Odinson lost his worthiness and became Unworthy to hold Mjolnir. Jane Foster picks up the hammer and discovers she is Worthy. and becomes the new Thor for a while.
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Zikten
07/05/20 4:30:28 PM
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Jabodie posted...
So is current Thor going to be a GotG? Because that would be sweet.

yes
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ZannoL
07/05/20 4:30:37 PM
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Zikten posted...
in the comics, Thor Odinson lost his worthiness and became Unworthy to hold Mjolnir. Jane Foster picks up the hammer and discovers she is Worthy. and becomes the new Thor for a while.

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au_gold
07/05/20 4:30:53 PM
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As long as we get more Brie Larson, I cant complain.

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Zikten
07/05/20 4:32:05 PM
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au_gold posted...
As long as we get more Brie Larson, I cant complain.

she will get a Captain Marvel 2. and will probably also be the new leader of the Avengers. I hope they introduce Kamala Khan in Captain Marvel 2.
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Gobstoppers12
07/05/20 4:34:27 PM
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au_gold posted...
As long as we get more Brie Larson, I cant complain.
I don't hate her as a person, but I want her to find her charisma and actually become likeable as the character.

And really, she wasn't the biggest issue I had with Captain Marvel as a film. When we were promised a 90s film with a female lead, I expected a bit more of a 90s vibe than just...things that existed in the 90s. Captain America: The First Avenger felt like a film set in the 1940s, while Captain Marvel felt like a film set in 2019 with a bunch of objects from 1990 decorating the set.

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archedsoul
07/05/20 4:34:53 PM
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Zikten posted...
yes
That's not confirmed in any way since he's in Thor 4 and GotG 3 is phase 5.

Zikten posted...
she will get a Captain Marvel 2. and will probably also be the new leader of the Avengers. I hope they introduce Kamala Khan in Captain Marvel 2.
Kamala Khan's Disney+ series is going to be released long before CM 2.

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bloodyarts
07/05/20 4:37:42 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
It really, really isn't though. It's mid-tier at best, and the CGI is shoddy compared to other mid-tier Marvel films like Ant-Man.
Black Panther was good, which is kind of disappointing.
Ant-Man, on the other hand, was trash. Ant-Man and the Wasp is better than BP and Ant-Man.
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Gobstoppers12
07/05/20 4:39:56 PM
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bloodyarts posted...
Ant-Man, on the other hand, was trash
The final battle on the toy train set made the entire movie worth it. Based on that scene alone it gets a C+ at minimum. Black Panther is more of a C. It didn't really bring anything new, and what it did bring was kinda lackluster compared to the same things in other movies.

Black Panther had a better role in Civil War (and Infinity War, for that matter) than in his own movie.

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Ivynn
07/05/20 4:40:59 PM
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archedsoul posted...
That's not confirmed in any way since he's in Thor 4 and GotG 3 is phase 5.

Kamala Khan's Disney+ series is going to be released long before CM 2.

Which is dumb imo, pushing her before CM is even fully established in the MCU. It'll be weird for her to fangirl over a hero who just appeared on the scene and name herself after her. Also wonder how they'll explain her Inhuman origins before their debut in the MCU.

(Agents of Shield and Inhumans show aren't canon, don't @ me)

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MachineJaipur
07/05/20 4:41:00 PM
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ZannoL posted...
https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2490200/the-eternals-actor-reveals-marvels-first-major-same-sex-relationship

Eternals will feature a superhero who is a gay family man. That would have been completely unheard of 10 years ago. Things are definitely changing

But is it going to be relevant to the story at large or is it just brownie points for diversity by having a (meaningless) descriptor? Because if it's the latter then I'd rather just not know. If a character never has a romance arc/story line or never shows romantic interest in anyone why even bother bringing up their sexuality?

If you're going to have diverse characters have it be relevant to the story.
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Propane4Sale
07/05/20 4:41:36 PM
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i wish she meant diverse as in the movies being less generic, formulaic, and forgettable.

Too bad :/

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MachineJaipur
07/05/20 4:42:31 PM
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Propane4Sale posted...
i wish she meant diverse as in the movies being less generic, formulaic, and forgettable.

Too bad :/
I don't really have this problem with any of Phase 3.

Sole of the earlier entries were boring though
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ZannoL
07/05/20 4:43:53 PM
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MachineJaipur posted...
romance arc/story line
I think thats what its going to be. There is going to be a live story in there.
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Ivynn
07/05/20 4:48:04 PM
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ZannoL posted...
I think thats what its going to be. There is going to be a live story in there.

[X] Doubt

They want to show the movie in China, Russia, and Turkey.

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The_Ivory_Man
07/05/20 4:57:59 PM
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Zikten posted...
in the comics, Thor Odinson lost his worthiness and became Unworthy to hold Mjolnir. Jane Foster picks up the hammer and discovers she is Worthy. and becomes the new Thor for a while.

Thor lost his worthiness because Nick Fury told him someone commiting mass genocide against Thor's people was right.

Just for clarification on how stupid it was.
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