Current Events > The American death toll for Coronavirus is the equivalent of forty four 9/11s

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To have this many casualties, 9/11 would have to be carried out 44 times.

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They would have to rebuild the WTCs quickly.

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Just the unfortunate reality of living in a FREE COUNTRY. Fuck your life, wearing a mask is really hard!

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Back when it was 100k people said The U.S. has had the equivalent of 12 plane crashes a day for two months.

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We're just getting started here.
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Now, is that good?
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More Americans have died from Covid 19 than every American has died in all wars, combined, since WW2

Bullet_Wing posted...

Donald Trump will go down as one of our worst presidents for sure

I think Donald Trump's response to coronavirus is going to get totally dunked on in every history book around the world, except for in Alabama and Mississippi.

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Is this supposed to be surprising and/or comparable though? Four plane crashes in one day in one compared to a worldwide viral outbreak that's been going on for months?

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should we invade the middle east 44 times then?

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YugiNoob posted...

Is this supposed to be surprising and/or comparable though? Four plane crashes in one day in one compared to a worldwide viral outbreak that's been going on for months?

Of course. Theyre totally similar because Americans are dying!!!!

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monkmith posted...

should we invade the middle east 44 times then?

I feel like we've beaten that already.

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That Joker quote about things going according to plan has never been more relatable.
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YugiNoob posted...

Is this supposed to be surprising and/or comparable though? Four plane crashes in one day in one compared to a worldwide viral outbreak that's been going on for months?

Its safer to get in a plane than it is to step outside. There were some very basic and simple things we could have done to pretty much be through all this by now, but some people we call leaders didn't do that and we're still fully in it. Yes, it is an apt comparison to help describe the gravity of the situation, because its hard for some people to fully comprehend just how serious this is when its spread out like it has been. If we had 4 plane crashes in one day and this many people died, people would instantly demand whoever made those planes be held accountable. This is no different. Hold those who have allowed this virus to linger accountable.

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Imagine pinning blame on a federal authority primarily instead of holding State reps accountable?

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Unsugarized_Foo posted...

Of course. Theyre totally similar because Americans are dying!!!!

9/11 is a collective trauma in the American psyche, and the importance of remembering the event and mourning the death of 3,000 people was hammered in year after year after year.

The point of comparing the death tolls is to provide a bit of perspective. Eventually, the shock of hundreds of thousands of deaths will wear off because we've gotten so used to them happening, and it'll be hard to care when the number tops 200,000, or 300,000. It'll become a detached figure.

Comparing it to an event like 9/11, with the scope and influence on the American psyche that it has, is an attempt to ground the figure in a familiar way and get people to understand just how bad shit is getting. It's a Team America joke, sure, but it's a way to comprehend the figure and its tragedy after it's started to lose its effect.

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jmikla posted...

Imagine pinning blame on a federal authority primarily instead of holding State reps accountable?

Was this aimed at me because i didn't specify any "federal authority"...I think State Reps fall into the leader category, yea?

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jmikla posted...

Imagine pinning blame on a federal authority primarily instead of holding State reps accountable?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/top-democrats-
say-trump-sitting-14-billion-coronavirus-testing-contact-n1231688

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These are not comparable. 9/11 was an attack on American soil. Viruses are a force of nature. Very different things.

bobaban posted...

These are not comparable. 9/11 was an attack on American soil. Viruses are a force of nature. Very different things.

https://imgur.com/l7ZAGgU

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Such a dark comparison but it does get the point across. This is so sad and tragic and scary

2 Vietnams

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TheVipaGTS posted...

Its safer to get in a plane than it is to step outside. There were some very basic and simple things we could have done to pretty much be through all this by now, but some people we call leaders didn't do that and we're still fully in it. Yes, it is an apt comparison to help describe the gravity of the situation, because its hard for some people to fully comprehend just how serious this is when its spread out like it has been. If we had 4 plane crashes in one day and this many people died, people would instantly demand whoever made those planes be held accountable. This is no different. Hold those who have allowed this virus to linger accountable.

This is just you doing you; hating on the right. Basically every post you make is to whine about the right/conservatives/Republicans/cops. You simply deflected from the fact covid had far longer, is over a much larger area, and is far deadlier than 4 plane crashes, which makes the fact that it killed 44x as many people a ludicrous comparison.

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Where is this 4 plane crashes figure coming from? If there were three plane crashes on 9/11 (the twin towers and the one that crashed before it hit the Pentagon), there would be 132 plane crashes in total.

Also, the point isn't "a pandemic-level virus is the same as a terror attack". That's not at all what I'm saying. The point is "remember how tragic 9/11 was portrayed as, remember how many people were killed in that tragedy - the point of "never forget" being to remember the senseless loss of human life on that day - and now imagine the loss from that tragedy multiplied by 44".

To match the COVID-19 casualties, an event like 9/11 would have to happen 44 times. You would have to experience an event on the scale of 9/11 forty four times to get the same amount of dead people that this virus has claimed.

And I'm not even talking about the global casualties. The amount of American deaths due to COVID-19 is the equivalent of 44 9/11s.

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YugiNoob posted...

This is just you doing you; hating on the right. Basically every post you make is to whine about the right/conservatives/Republicans/cops. You simply deflected from the fact covid had far longer, is over a much larger area, and is far deadlier than 4 plane crashes, which makes the fact that it killed 44x as many people a ludicrous comparison.

Saying someone is deflecting while you deflect. Ballsy.

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Me: "so many people died in world war 2, it was like if the Titanic sunk 500 times"

You: "but the Titanic was a boat, not a war, they're not comparable"

no, I don't think the Titanic casualties multiplied by 500 = the people who died in WW2, just for the record

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MrMallard posted...

Where is this 4 plane crashes figure coming from? If there were three plane crashes on 9/11 (the twin towers and the one that crashed before it hit the Pentagon), there would be 132 plane crashes in total.

Also, the point isn't "a pandemic-level virus is the same as a terror attack". That's not at all what I'm saying. The point is "remember how tragic 9/11 was portrayed as, remember how many people were killed in that tragedy - the point of "never forget" being to remember the senseless loss of human life on that day - and now imagine the loss from that tragedy multiplied by 44".

To match the COVID-19 casualties, an event like 9/11 would have to happen 44 times. You would have to experience an event on the scale of 9/11 forty four times to get the same amount of dead people that this virus has claimed.

And I'm not even talking about the global casualties. The amount of American deaths due to COVID-19 is the equivalent of 44 9/11s.

You do realize that people interpret things differently, right? And that omitting the fact that you were comparing 9/11 and covid on an emotional scale, especially online, is going to get different reactions? Although even on that level, 9/11 was an entirely human-caused attack, whereas covid is a virus. Hopefully one that wasn't intentionally set loose around the world.

And I wasn't talking about global casualties either. That was about the fact that people around the world contributed to American deaths.

Guide posted...

Saying someone is deflecting while you deflect. Ballsy.

He didn't refute my statement, so I had nothing to deflect.

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Bullet_Wing posted...

Donald Trump will go down as one of our worst presidents for sure

Umm he already is. And I knew he was going to be the second I found out he won the election.

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YugiNoob posted...

This is just you doing you; hating on the right. Basically every post you make is to whine about the right/conservatives/Republicans/cops. You simply deflected from the fact covid had far longer, is over a much larger area, and is far deadlier than 4 plane crashes, which makes the fact that it killed 44x as many people a ludicrous comparison.

....Where did i even mention the right? I mentioned leaders. its not my fault it was primarily leaders on the right who fucked up the most, but I didn't even say that in my post...you just know its true.

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But i need a haircut i have breathing problems and muh religious rights

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yes, in terms of quantity, there are more

it only puts it into the perspective of numbers. a list. a chart. but fails to capture any of the emotional or psychological similarities.

is that the point? that one number is bigger than the other...?

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TheVipaGTS posted...

....Where did i even mention the right? I mentioned leaders. its not my fault it was primarily leaders on the right who fucked up the most, but I didn't even say that in my post...you just know its true.

I know that's what you were implying, given your heavily biased track record.

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YugiNoob posted...

I know that's what you were implying, given your heavily biased track record.

ummmm, ok.

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Bullet_Wing posted...

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1237027356314869761

Yep, and he has an insane cult of personality even many Republicans of past administrations say is a threat to the constitution of the country.

We have this vanity president who refuses to wear masks that could and should be setting an example to his followers. Instead he wants to hold more fan rallies and consistently both praises himself for the situation and insists it's over with.

How can anyone support him at this point? He is a madman.
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Bullet_Wing posted...

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1237027356314869761

132,000 deaths in under four months. Christ.

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jmikla posted...

Imagine pinning blame on a federal authority primarily instead of holding State reps accountable?

You mean the federal authority that intentionally withheld aid and equipment while tweeting "LIBERATE" and encouraging states to reopen too early is immune from responsibility?

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bobaban posted...

These are not comparable. 9/11 was an attack on American soil. Viruses are a force of nature. Very different things.

I know this might be a bit hard to comprehend but consider this:

We knew about the virus for months and did nothing to prepare for it.

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One last bump

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