Current Events > gallup poll shows 91% of republicans still love Trump

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Only 2% of democrats approve of the job he is doing. 33% of independents.

Gallup reports that the 89-point difference between Republicans' and Democrats' ratings of Trump is the largest partisan gap theyve ever measured for a presidential approval rating.

The presidents overall approval rating stands at 38 percent, basically unchanged from Trumps 39 percent approval in Gallups previous survey, conducted May 28-June 4.

Of the post-World War II presidents who won reelection to a second term, Dwight Eisenhower stood at 73 percent in June of 1956, Richard Nixon was at 58 percent in June of 1972, Ronald Reagan was at 54 percent in June of 1984, Bill Clinton stood at 55 percent in June of 1996, George W. Bush was at 49 percent in June of 2004, and Barack Obama stood at 46 percent in June of 2012.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/massive-gap-gallup-measures-historic-partisan-divide-on-trumps-approval

I really dont get how so many republicans can still support someone who is blatantly encouraging racism and division.

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Party over country.

The real telling number of the race is the 33% of independents.

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I have to imagine it's because they're getting news from Fox and OANN who spend all day misleading their viewers about what's actually going on.

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I'd be interested in the party approval ratings of other presidents over the years - I'm assuming basically all of them are 95+%?

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The problem is those Republicans vote. Democrats don't all vote, lots of them protest because their candidate didn't win, or throw up their hands and say it doesn't matter if we vote anyway because both parties are corrupt.

GodIsImaginary posted...

The problem is those Republicans vote. Democrats don't all vote, lots of them protest because their candidate didn't win, or throw up their hands and say it doesn't matter if we vote anyway because both parties are corrupt.

except that trump got 3 million less votes than hillary got provingt hat democrats do vote
the real problem is the electoral college will give the win to the loser of the election cause its a really messed up system

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yusiko posted...

except that trump got 3 million less votes than hillary got provingt hat democrats do vote
the real problem is the electoral college will give the win to the loser of the election cause its a really messed up system

yeah, the electoral looks relatively close:

https://www.270towin.com/

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yusiko posted...

except that trump got 3 million less votes than hillary got provingt hat democrats do vote
the real problem is the electoral college will give the win to the loser of the election cause its a really messed up system

The electoral college is a problem, but mostly because the states are winner take all and the Democratic voters are distributed disadvantageously in a handful of coastal states. But I know countless millennials who hate Trump but still don't want to vote because they think Biden is bad too, or they just never vote.

yusiko posted...

except that trump got 3 million less votes than hillary got provingt hat democrats do vote
the real problem is the electoral college will give the win to the loser of the election cause its a really messed up system

Thankfully the Supreme Court ruled 9-0 that states can punish faithless electors now, so hopefully we won't get shit like people taking Clinton votes and giving them to Colin Powell.

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Who the fuck are the 2% of democrats that approve of this garbage

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Bullet_Wing posted...

I notice Fox didn't cover the major takeaways of that poll. Click the link and look at demographics.

For the first time ever, Trump's support from whites and men has fallen below 50%

The base is finally being cut into

thanks for pointing that out. That doesnt make sense to me though, if he is less than 50% with white men, wouldnt that make his total approval lower than 91%? I cant imagine he has that much support from other groups

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I guarantee you more than 9% of Republican voters disapprove of Trump. Most of my fellow workmates are Republican and have completely turned on him since COVID19 started.

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You know, I constantly see these high approval ratings from Republicans and can't help but wonder if nearly everyone in that party actually thinks he's doing a good or if some of them split into being independents.

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If his white support/male support is being cut into it only stands to reason that more minorities and women are filling the gaps.

yusiko posted...

except that trump got 3 million less votes than hillary got provingt hat democrats do vote
the real problem is the electoral college will give the win to the loser of the election cause its a really messed up system

I thought that too, before I learned about its purpose. It ensures the country isn't dominated by new York and California.

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Soul_Devour posted...

You know, I constantly see these high approval ratings from Republicans and can't help but wonder if nearly everyone in that party actually thinks he's doing a good or if some of them split into being independents.

Wouldn't they have to re-register to identify as Independent though? Not sure or if its a by state thing.


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but on the flip its just respondents to the polls so Republicans that hate Trump might be identifying as independents for this cycle

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Everyone's vote does matter. On a state/ local level.

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Joenage posted...

I'd be interested in the party approval ratings of other presidents over the years - I'm assuming basically all of them are 95+%?

No, usually more in the 80s range actually.
83 percent of Democrats approved of Obama, on average
84% for Bush, 82% for Clinton
https://news.gallup.com/poll/203006/obama-job-approval-ratings-politically-polarized-far.aspx
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Bullet_Wing posted...

Everyone's vote should matter on a national level too. We all pay on the same scale of federal taxes and we all are equally affected by decisions from the federal government.

Can't cosign. Itd lead to tyranny of the majority, the most populous states. One or two highly populated states should not be setting policy for the entire country.

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Also I'm curious. Idle question but still. If the current red/blue states flipped their color, would you feel the same way?

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onedarksoul posted...

Can't cosign. Itd lead to tyranny of the majority, the most populous states. One or two highly populated states should not be setting policy for the entire country.

The majority of the people in the country should be setting policy for the country. I don't care where they live. Stop justifying states where next to noone lives having disproportionate amounts of power.

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The president should be elected by popular vote. If you are concerned with the smaller states having unfair representation that is what the senate is for where the smaller states have greater representation (compared to population) than the larger states.

Also some weird things can happen with the current system. Only swing states matter in the presidential election due to the winner takes all approach where a 55/45 victory is treated the same as a 90/10 victory.

Here's a map of US with state sizes based on the number of campaign events in 2012. This is how the candidates view the relevant voters (and their issues). Notice that 38 states are missing altogether:
https://www.nationalpopularvote.com/sites/default/files/2012-state-size-by-campaign-events-v4-biglabels-small.png

Similarly, in 2016, almost all campaign events (94%) were in the 12 states where Trumps support was between 43% and 51%. Two-thirds of the events (273 of 399) were in just 6 states (OH, FL, VA, NC, PA, MI).
https://www.nationalpopularvote.com/sites/default/files/campaign-map-2016.png

https://www.nationalpopularvote.com/written-explanation


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onedarksoul posted...

I thought that too, before I learned about its purpose. It ensures the country isn't dominated by new York and California.

today i learned that california was a state when the framers wrote the constitution...

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onedarksoul posted...

Can't cosign. Itd lead to tyranny of the majority, the most populous states. One or two highly populated states should not be setting policy for the entire country.

That's much, much, much, much, much better than the current system, which is tyranny of the minority, where only one or two swing states matter and set the policy for the entire country. With a popular vote, candidates would have to appeal to a much greater variety of people than they currently do, and would have to campaign in more places.

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onedarksoul posted...

I thought that too, before I learned about its purpose. It ensures the country isn't dominated by new York and California.

Too bad if you're a Republican in those states. Your vote doesn't matter at all in the presidential race considering neither of those states are turning red anytime soon.

For some reason this is an ok trade-off to give "battleground" states all the power.
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