Current Events > Terry Crews is trying to win a spot next to Candnece Owens.

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I4NRulez posted...

#4. The guy was in an episode of Brooklyn 99 where he was powerless as a black man in an encounter with cops and he still doesnt understand what the protest are for

somebody actually typed this

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Veggeta X posted...

Why do I feel like you are making his mantra to be a lot more demonizing than it actually really is?

No one is doing that, people are just calling out what that jerk is doing.

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I4NRulez posted...

Yeah duh. The issue with the tweets is that its he's trying to bring up a non existent issue to try to get BLM discredited.

#1. Black supremacy can never happen because we only make up 13% of the population. All we want is equality. Thats it.

#2. Most of BLM know that we have white allies. We appreciate and accept them. So saying "Theres good people on both sides" is dumb because we already know that. No one is saying white people are the devil except for the people that have always said that and its not the majority.

#3. As said before in this topic he's never shown the "treat everyone the same" when he's had the chance. He's usually on the wrong side of problems.

#4. The guy was in an episode of Brooklyn 99 where he was powerless as a black man in an encounter with cops and he still doesnt understand what the protest are for

#5. His tweets are creating a BLM boogey man in the same way that fox news tells old white people that BLM and the liberals are coming to get them. His takes arent new and no one necessarily disagrees with that he's saying. Its just not the right time for it.

https://giphy.com/gifs/rkXNems5uxExG/html5

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I feel like he may be coming off ignorant but his message and point of "true equality and true unity" from everyone shouldn't trigger anyone. And if it does you need to re-evaluate yourself as a "freedom fighter".

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I stand with good people no matter what they look like or believe in

We live in a society where people think this is a controversial thing to say. Let that sink in for a second.

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Squall28 posted...

We live in a society where people think this is a controversial thing to say. Let that sink in for a second.

We live in society where no one sees anything wrong with someone telling a group of people being oppressed that they better not turn into the oppressor. Let that sink in for a second. As I have proven here if you do with other groups besides black people.. people will freak out .

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Squall28 posted...

We live in a society where people think this is a controversial thing to say. Let that sink in for a second.

When you're accustomed to being under-privileged, equality feels like oppression still.

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alimajor posted...

Hes pandering to an audience and I think we all know who that audience is.

Just happened to be browsing one of my favorites, Cursed Boomer Images, and came across this as a good example for a portion of his audience. The people who share pics like this but are dead serious




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cjsdowg posted...

As I have proven here if you do with other groups besides black people.. people will freak out .

This is fake news. No minorities should ever become oppressors.

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Veggeta X posted...

This is fake news. No minorities should ever become oppressors.

I posted this questions over and over about other groups and people have gotten upset I would even think to ask it. I want repost since I did it like 5 times already. but it right where I changed the groups and people didn't like it.

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cjsdowg posted...

I posted this questions over and over about other groups and people have gotten upset I would even think to ask it. I want repost since I did it like 5 times already. but it right where I changed the groups and people didn't like it.

no one wants to see you repost your stupid antisemitic comparison for the 6th time
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Terry Crews is a good man speaking common sense if you pay attention to his entire message.

The problem however is that we live in an age of soundbites where people will cherry pick statements and contextualize them in a way to support their narrative.

He's taking a stand against black supremacy. Black supremacy, like any other racial supremacy, is wrong. I think we can all agree to this statement. However, black supremacy is nowhere near as common or dangerous as white supremacy during the current political climate. On a pure philosophical standpoint, both are as bad as each others but on a practical standpoint in America in 2020, white supremacy is a much bigger problem.

In the same vein as #AllLivesMatter is taken as opposition to #BlackLivesMatter despite by itself being common sense, going after black supremacy in this context is taken as being opposed to the current movement.

I wish people going after Crews would try to understand his full intentions and I wish Crews was more mindful of the current political climate in how he's communicating his message.

KyerWiz posted...

Terry Crews is a good man speaking common sense if you pay attention to his entire message.

The problem however is that we live in an age of soundbites where people will cherry pick statements and contextualize them in a way to support their narrative.

He's taking a stand against black supremacy. Black supremacy, like any other racial supremacy, is wrong. I think we can all agree to this statement. However, black supremacy is nowhere near as common or dangerous as white supremacy during the current political climate. On a pure philosophical standpoint, both are as bad as each others but on a practical standpoint in America in 2020, white supremacy is a much bigger problem.

In the same vein as #AllLivesMatter is taken as opposition to #BlackLivesMatter despite by itself being common sense, going after black supremacy in this context is taken as being opposed to the current movement.

I wish people going after Crews would try to understand his full intentions and I wish Crews was more mindful of the current political climate in how he's communicating his message.

Excellent take.

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cjsdowg posted...

No I will not stop bringing up, because that is literally what Terry is doing. You are yelling in your post when I doing the same thing to one group that Terry is doing to black people over and over . It is wrong in both situation but people like you think it okay to treat black people that way.

1st of all - comparing 1700-1800s slavery to the holocaust is something you dont want to touch.

your argument is tone deaf.

and please, next time you try to say people like you think it okay to treat black people that way kindly stop and think and stfu before you say it.

you dont know me personally and if you intend to judge my character because I told you to stop using a bad comparison then youre arguing in bad faith.


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KyerWiz posted...

The problem however is that we live in an age of soundbites where people will cherry pick statements and contextualize them in a way to support their narrative.

KyerWiz posted...

I wish people going after Crews would try to understand his full intentions and I wish Crews was more mindful of the current political climate in how he's communicating his message.

Both of these.

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ThisGuyAreSick posted...

no one wants to see you repost your stupid antisemitic comparison for the 6th time

If you think what I posted is wrong. Then what Terry was posted was wrong. You can't have it both ways. And you keep proving my point.

You can wig the finger at black people while we are being oppressed but no anyone else .

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chrono625 posted...

st of all - comparing 1700-1800s slavery to the holocaust is something you dont want to touch.

your argument is tone deaf.

and please, next time you try to say people like you think it okay to treat black people that way kindly stop and think and stfu before you say it.

you dont know me personally and if you intend to judge my character because I told you to stop using a bad comparison then youre arguing in bad faith.

There is nothing wrong with my comparisons. Both situation are telling groups who are oppressed watch out and not become the oppressors. If it is okay to tell black people that, then you should be able to tell other groups that. Just like how people romanticize the got damn CSA. The only reason people think we should not compare is because people downplay black pain.


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KyerWiz posted...

Terry Crews is a good man speaking common sense if you pay attention to his entire message.

The problem however is that we live in an age of soundbites where people will cherry pick statements and contextualize them in a way to support their narrative.

The problem I have with "look at the broader message" is that you're asking people to ignore the details. "I just want to make a better world" is a nice broad goal, but how does one plan on doing it?

Here's an example that may be seen as hyperbolic.

*ahem*

"Don't you want to Make America Great Again? Why would you have such a problem with that? Isn't a great America a good thing? I really think you're missing the entire message by cherrypicking on the details."

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The fence sitting lovey dovey summary of this topic is great and all, but referencing multiple instances of him being a shithead who falls back on "whoops my bad, talking about personal experience even though it was initially addressed to a broad audience" when he gets some heat isn't really cherrypicking

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Squall28 posted...

We live in a society where people think this is a controversial thing to say. Let that sink in for a second.

It's not controversial on its own, just like saying "All lives matter" is not controversial on its own. But those statements are meaningless now in the context of BLM.

It's like if someone fell and broke their leg, yelled for help, and someone else stood next to them and stated "I think all people in need should be helped." Like, ok, but help the damn person in front of you.

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This is nowhere near as bad as Candace Owens imo. Terrys heart is at least in the right place, I think. Candace, meanwhile, just spews whatever vile shit she can come up with to get attention. Her entire livelihood depends on it. Terry Crews is actually a good actor and makes a living without talking about this stuff, so I think hes just saying how he feels even if it may seem out-of-touch in todays world.

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I read through the entire topic and I don't see the problem with Crews' statement. Or even his previous statements.

Realize that not all of us see eye to eye on the same issues For instance, the MacadamianNut's reaction to the KKK passing the torch image is a polar opposite of mine; I think it perfectly describes the situation. Tackling the elephant in the room, while some of you guys think Black Lives Matter is a noble cause, some of us see it as a terrorist organization deliberately designed to destabilize our country.
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BLM is not a terrorist organization LMAO. Just because some of these people are turning on Terry now doesn't mean he's your ally now either. Shit is hilarious.

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Sad_Face posted...

read through the entire topic and I don't see the problem with Crews' statement

Sad_Face posted...

Tackling the elephant in the room, while some of you guys think Black Lives Matter is a noble cause, some of us see it as a terrorist organization deliberately designed to destabilize our country.

I didn't ask for another example but thanks I guess

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cjsdowg posted...

The only reason people think we should not compare is because people downplay black pain.

who is downplaying black pain right now? A small percentage of shit heads?

the movement to revamp policing has more support NOW than ever. And youre still here saying durrrr its not enough, just look at this quote about Jews

and crews message isnt bad, it might seem derivative, but its not a negative message. So to use a comparison of Jews in the 1940s in Europe to now is tone deaf. You dont try to compare or measure atrocities cause you just look foolish when you do.


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Kavatar posted...

It's not controversial on its own, just like saying "All lives matter" is not controversial on its own. But those statements are meaningless now in the context of BLM.

It's like if someone fell and broke their leg, yelled for help, and someone else stood next to them and stated "I think all people in need should be helped." Like, ok, but help the damn person in front of you.

It's pretty obvious that Terry's message is focused on certain extremists and not the movement as a whole. ALM is trying to discount the movement. Terry is just calling out all the assholes who make their movement look bad.

Bullshit like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeyUAoe9JRw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeOAkd7WRm0#t=1m25s

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cjsdowg posted...

We live in society where no one sees anything wrong with someone telling a group of people being oppressed that they better not turn into the oppressor.

did you not understand animal farm

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cjsdowg posted...

You can wig the finger at black people while we are being oppressed but no anyone else .

Who is oppressing you?

I am not saying it is not happening. I mean who is oppressing you right now, so we can do something about it.

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Irony posted...

Stop being racist TC

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Veggeta X posted...

I feel like he may be coming off ignorant but his message and point of "true equality and true unity" from everyone shouldn't trigger anyone. And if it does you need to re-evaluate yourself as a "freedom fighter".

It's not the message that's wrong. It's the blatant and obvious deflection.

We all know that some black people are shitty people and that not all white people are shitty people. What does that have to do with systematic oppression?

Imagine if you were gay and got jumped for it, then someone came up to you and said that straight people get jumped too and then go on to specifically say they wish gays and straights would get along as if you were the problem.

Like yeah, it's technically right, but you completely ignored the issue. And people tend to think that the reason you did that is because you don't care.

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MacadamianNut3 posted...

I didn't ask for another example but thanks I guess

And of course, the country is only ever destabilized when black people actually stand up for themselves.

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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

What does that have to do with systematic oppression?

I don't think he was trying to talk about that at all.

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Veggeta X posted...

I don't think he was trying to talk about that at all.

But in the context of current events, it comes across as completely tone-deaf. It's the exact same rhetoric that "All Lives Matter" uses.

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Machete posted...

dude fuck off with this shit. At least you have access to information on your ancestors and you maybe know who they are or even better yet maybe have met them. I still have nothing but a dead end "I would have been..." surname 2-3 years after taking a fucking DNA test that I still occasionally get emails about but they're always fucking spam and ads...

What the fuck

Seems like a good hearted level headed fellow in a sea of internet warriors trying to interpret the tweet like the Bible

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The comments about the context of the statements help. I probably still agree with a good portion of my comments I made earlier on. I have issues/comments in general about the fear of bad faith commentary.
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Terry Crews to all his haters

https://youtu.be/4H_ztTdw_ow

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Veggeta X posted...

I don't think he was trying to talk about that at all.

Yes he was. That's exactly why he made his original statement. He didn't start this "just because." It was in direct relation to current events, which is about systemic oppresion/racism.

I understand people taking issue with what Terry Crews has said, but trying to compare him to Candace Owens is just stupid.

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This is what Terry is afraid of?

https://youtu.be/MREWRGqChZM

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Candace Owens is a bit too much.

buthe is basically the male Stacey dash right?

TopKekBro posted...

Candace Owens is a bit too much.

buthe is basically the male Stacey dash right?

Hes definitely getting there. Hes been saying weird shit since he was on his porn is evil stuff

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It always comes down to this:

People will understand it the only way they know how and they won't change their minds. So let people think whatever.

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Veggeta X posted...

It always comes down to this:

People will understand it the only way they know how and they won't change their minds. So let people think whatever.

As a single message hes right. No race should be held in higher regard than the other.

in the context of how terry crews acts its insincere

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I wonder what the offspring of Crews and Owens would be like.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

I wonder what the offspring of Crews and Owens would be like.

justice Thomas or Ben Carson

I4NRulez posted...

TopKekBro posted...

Candace Owens is a bit too much.

buthe is basically the male Stacey dash right?

Hes definitely getting there. Hes been saying weird shit since he was on his porn is evil stuff

I don't know. To say Terry is getting to Candace Owens level minimizes how bad Candace is.

Candace is a grifter, plain and simple. I can't apply any good charity to what she says. It's a purposeful grift.

Terry might be incorrect, but I don't think he's being insincere
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Terry Crews is trying a bit too hard to appear as the "safe" black guy to the network execs, especially after the Gabrielle Union discrimination suit. She went to bat for him after he came out with his sexual assault story and he left her out to dry. He's trying to protect that check at this point and if he becomes a toothless shark then so be it.

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Taharqa_ posted...

Terry Crews is trying a bit too hard to appear as the "safe" black guy to the network execs, especially after the Gabrielle Union discrimination suit. She went to bat for him after he came out with his sexual assault story and he left her out to dry. He's trying to protect that check at this point and if he becomes a toothless shark then so be it.

Veggeta X posted...

It always comes down to this:

People will understand it the only way they know how and they won't change their minds. So let people think whatever.

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cjsdowg posted...

What a crock of a shit. This is the same got damn thing. If you haven't noticed black people are being oppressed in America. And the fact that if you switch out any other race for black people. You say it racist shows just how little you think of black people. It is the got damn same thing.

...you're so far gone.
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