Current Events > Imagine being a white liberal and thinking John McCain was good

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lurk
07/08/20 10:59:12 PM
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Lol are you going to start praising Reagan soon?
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GentlemanGamer
07/08/20 11:00:03 PM
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White liberals now love George W Bush but still hate Ralph Nader so yeah
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lurk
07/08/20 11:00:39 PM
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Rebel is 3 years away from making helicopter jokes
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TomNook20
07/08/20 11:01:05 PM
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Once Kanye is president they'll be praising trump.

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ThisGuyAreSick
07/08/20 11:01:15 PM
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lurk posted...
Rebel is 3 years away from making helicopter jokes


Only 3 years?
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Politics
07/08/20 11:01:31 PM
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I don't love John McCain I just think he had class, something Donald Trump has none of.

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humptyrump
07/08/20 11:01:57 PM
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Politics posted...
I don't love John McCain I just think he had class, something Donald Trump has none of.

Did he have class when he killed civilians in Vietnam?
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andel
07/08/20 11:03:28 PM
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humptyrump posted...
Did he have class when he killed civilians in Vietnam?

more class than trump has letting russians kill american soldiers while still getting on his knees for putin.

mccain was trash but compared to trump he was a saint

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ThisGuyAreSick
07/08/20 11:03:42 PM
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humptyrump posted...


Did he have class when he killed civilians in Vietnam?


He killed civilians?
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BigB0ss13
07/08/20 11:06:46 PM
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ThisGuyAreSick posted...
He killed civilians?


If a Vietnam vet has killed someone, there's a 98% chance they killed innocent babies, children, women and innocent men
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FortuneCookie
07/08/20 11:07:15 PM
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ThisGuyAreSick posted...
He killed civilians?

His captors tried to get him to sign a confession saying he had killed civilians. He refused to do so even when they tied his arms behind him and raised them until they were parallel with his chest.

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NinjaWarrior455
07/08/20 11:08:43 PM
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No one:
Neolibs: I would take Bush over Trump any day

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SmidgeIsntBack
07/08/20 11:15:53 PM
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NinjaWarrior455 posted...
No one:
Neolibs: I would take Bush over Trump any day

Seriously, lol.

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ChocoboMogALT
07/08/20 11:16:24 PM
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NinjaWarrior455 posted...
No one:
Neolibs: I would take Bush over Trump any day

It's not like this is completely unprompted.
I can disagree with McCain and Romney and Bush on politics, business, and even moral philosophy. But at least they respected their opponents, at least they respected the office, at least they had some basic level they would not sink beneath. Even in Congress, there's a large difference between three Rubios of the world and the McConnells. Rubio is a tool and has no spine, but there is some level he will not sink to.

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GentlemanGamer
07/08/20 11:17:15 PM
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ChocoboMogALT posted...
It's not like this is completely unprompted.
I can disagree with McCain and Romney and Bush on politics, business, and even moral philosophy. But at least they respected their opponents, at least they respected the office, at least they had some basic level they would not sink beneath. Even in Congress, there's a large difference between three Rubios of the world and the McConnells. Rubio is a tool and has no spine, but there is some level he will not sink to.

Delusional
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Solid Snake07
07/08/20 11:23:33 PM
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He was sane

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ChocoboMogALT
07/08/20 11:24:15 PM
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GentlemanGamer posted...
Delusional
Why? Because I think the GOP is pretty far gone, especially in comparison to pre 2008? It's not like we had 8 years of anti-liberal propaganda being pushed through FOX or an astro-turfed movement take over the GOP base or anything.
McCain did a lot of bad shit and I wouldn't vote for him:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keating_Five

But that pales in comparison to the modern GOP and Trump.

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kuwab0
07/08/20 11:24:48 PM
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Solid Snake07
07/08/20 11:25:49 PM
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And what does race have to do with this?

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Southernfatman
07/08/20 11:26:55 PM
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Certain liberals think politics was like The West Wing before Trump came along and magically turned the GOP evil.

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ChocoboMogALT
07/08/20 11:28:48 PM
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Certaib posters haven't posted any examples or evidence of their points.

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Prestoff
07/08/20 11:34:54 PM
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I'm an asian liberal, so can I think John McCain was good?

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lurk
07/08/20 11:42:20 PM
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ChocoboMogALT posted...


It's not like this is completely unprompted.
I can disagree with McCain and Romney and Bush on politics, business, and even moral philosophy. But at least they respected their opponents, at least they respected the office, at least they had some basic level they would not sink beneath. Even in Congress, there's a large difference between three Rubios of the world and the McConnells. Rubio is a tool and has no spine, but there is some level he will not sink to.

https://youtu.be/-qdvm6h8WKg

you are literally proving my point

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SevenTenths
07/08/20 11:59:33 PM
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humptyrump posted...


Did he have class when he killed civilians in Vietnam?

he didn't draft dodge, so yes. And you'd have to actually support the claim that he did in the first place.

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lurk
07/09/20 12:02:19 AM
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So wait a minute. If we accept Reagan was a racist for his monkey comment, then why isnt McCain a racist for calling Ahmadinejad one? Yes ahmadinejad is bad but even Justin Amash(who is further right than McCain on most issues) called him a racist for that.
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lurk
07/09/20 12:03:27 AM
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https://www.businessinsider.com/justin-amash-john-mccain-ahmadinejad-monkey-tweet-2013-2

i can assure you with the quotes he has about killing Iranians with cigarettes McCain will not be viewed kindly by history
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FortuneCookie
07/09/20 12:19:32 AM
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We asked for proof that McCain was a murderer, not that he was a bigot.

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lurk
07/09/20 12:22:42 AM
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I never called him one or made the claim. Just that he was a pos

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BigB0ss13
07/09/20 12:23:00 AM
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FortuneCookie posted...
His captors tried to get him to sign a confession saying he had killed civilians. He refused to do so even when they tied his arms behind him and raised them until they were parallel with his chest.


What would've happened if he signed it even if he didn't kill civilians just to stop being tortured?
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Smashingpmkns
07/09/20 12:23:17 AM
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Dunno why these morons think making light of actual war criminals in order to criticize Trump is a good or rational tactic.
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DD Divine
07/09/20 12:24:05 AM
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lurk posted...
Lol are you going to start praising Reagan soon?

never, fuck that guy.

never was a fan of McCain but I respected his military background and how he handled that woman that called Obama a Muslim. (Not like that even matters)


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Shadowplay
07/09/20 12:26:30 AM
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McCain wasn't good, but he was at least smart enough to become a Jeopardy! champion which is something that the fat man in the White House would never be able to do.

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FortuneCookie
07/09/20 12:35:37 AM
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BigB0ss13 posted...
What would've happened if he signed it even if he didn't kill civilians just to stop being tortured?

I don't know. I'm not an officer in the Vietnamese army or any other.

They might have executed him. They might have let him go and used his confession as propaganda. They might have had him sentenced to prison as a criminal rather than a prisoner of war. I have no way of knowing if the claim had any validity or what would've had happened if McCain had confessed.

He claims they tried to trick him into signing a document saying that he was physically unwell and needed to be released from prison on medical concerns. When he wouldn't take the bait, that's when they went to work on his arms. When they were done, he couldn't raise them past chest height.

If somebody murders civilians, then fuck them. But if he was innocent of the accusation, I'm not going to vilify someone who endured as much as he did because of a few comments that were in poor taste.

His "I will hate the ****s until I die" comment I cannot condone. But I think it's easier to judge a victim of torture for harboring bigoted views in the wake of his torture than it would be to endure what he had and not think in terms of race. There are certain traumatic events which trigger animalistic response -- like rape victims developing bigoted views afterward.

I can tell you I harbor no bigotry toward anyone. (Maybe doctors.) I can't tell you how I would react after being tortured and I don't want to ever find out.

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ChocoboMog123
07/09/20 12:43:06 AM
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lurk posted...
https://youtu.be/-qdvm6h8WKg

you are literally proving my point
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rkmIAnfDVY

What point? I don't think McCain, Bush, or Romney were good. I don't know what being white has to do with anything, you haven't really expanded on that. But I do think that Bush would have been a hell of a lot more effective at handling the coronavirus, for example. I don't think he would have pulled us out of the WHO and purposefully broke trade deals with other countries. I think he's partially responsible for a lot of the issues we face today, moreso than other presidents, but he's not Trump.

Is this topic trying to make Trump look good by comparison? Is that your point?

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andel
07/09/20 12:51:27 AM
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we are at the point where trumpers can't muster any defense of the guy they worship so they can only try to deflect to other republicans being bad.

sorry, trump is already considered the worst potus in modern history by a wide margin and the likes of mccain will never be as hated.

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ASithLord7
07/09/20 12:53:07 AM
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lurk posted...
Rebel is 3 years away from making helicopter jokes
What the fuck? @lurk Are you mistaking someone else for my alt? When the fuck have I ever liked McCain or Bush, or hated on Nader? Whose shit alt is this?

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andel
07/09/20 12:54:49 AM
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ASithLord7 posted...
What the fuck? @lurk Are you mistaking someone else for my alt? When the fuck have I ever liked McCain or Bush, or hated on Nader? Whose shit alt is this?

it is clearly a trumper melting down that his god has no chance of beating biden and is now just angrily lashing out

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lurk
07/09/20 12:57:41 AM
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andel posted...
it is clearly a trumper melting down that his god has no chance of beating biden and is now just angrily lashing out
Im voting Biden dude
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ASithLord7
07/09/20 12:58:08 AM
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lurk posted...
Im voting Biden dude
Address my post or shut the fuck up.

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lurk
07/09/20 12:58:48 AM
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Time to brace for impact?

death via fall sounds more scary than painful
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ASithLord7
07/09/20 1:00:01 AM
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lurk posted...
Time to brace for impact?

death via fall sounds more scary than painful
Are you having a mental break or something?

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action52
07/09/20 1:02:49 AM
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The best thing I can say about McCain is, if he were the worst that the Republican party had to offer, this country would be a much better place.

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andel
07/09/20 1:02:51 AM
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lurk posted...
Im voting Biden dude

you are always spouting off trumper talking points. not fooling anyone

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lurk
07/09/20 1:03:36 AM
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andel posted...
you are always spouting off trumper talking points. not fooling anyone
just because I dont like the mccains and bushes doesnt mean I like trump.

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ASithLord7
07/09/20 1:03:56 AM
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ASithLord7 posted...
When the fuck have I ever liked McCain or Bush, or hated on Nader?


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andel
07/09/20 1:04:50 AM
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lurk posted...
just because I dont like the mccains and bushes doesnt mean I like trump.

no one likes the mccain and bushes, difference being that most people don't make bait topics saying libruls and constantly spew alt right talking points

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lurk
07/09/20 1:05:58 AM
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andel posted...
no one likes the mccain and bushes, difference being that most people don't make bait topics saying libruls and constantly spew alt right talking points
What alt right talking points? I support immigration. My parents are immigrants. I dont think anyone is better than anyone. I just dont like white male liberals who think they can decide what racism is.

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ASithLord7
07/09/20 1:07:29 AM
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lurk posted...
I just dont like white male liberals who think they can decide what racism is.
When have I done this either

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lurk
07/09/20 1:07:50 AM
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And I as recall a few years back wasnt it andel who once made a topic about how it was white people who ruled the world(while bragging) and talked about how Muslims were savages.

dude
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andel
07/09/20 1:10:44 AM
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lurk posted...
And I as recall a few years back wasnt it andel who once made a topic about how it was white people who ruled the world(while bragging) and talked about how Muslims were savages.

dude

uhh no, sure wasn't. sounds like something you and your cult leader would endorse considering he tweeted white power this week

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