Current Events > I think Trump has finally crossed the line to being worse than George W. for me

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The things that you guys are forgetting:

-Bushs wars account for more than US death tolls. Countless non-Americans were killed as a result. Allied soldiers were dragged into a war that we started and many lost their lives. Non combatants in the combat zones were killed, too.

-We have spent trillions of dollars on Bushs war. How much have we spent on the virus?

-Trump has definitely done a horrible job handling the coronavirus, but he didnt create it. This would have happened under anyones administration. The point is that Bush intentionally created a military conflict that is still being fought.

Most of the responses Im getting are emotional rather than logical. Basically, one guy started a war that has killed countless people and put the economic status of the working citizen in dire straits, but a guy who mishandled a pandemic is somehow worse?

(Supporting trump was not the main deciding factor in whether or not most people wore a mask. You guys know that I voted for him and I was the first one of his supporters to call him out on this.)

George W. Bush may have been an awful President, but as a person he has redeeming qualities.

Trump has absolutely none of that

I'll just say it like this. If any of the events that happened during Bush's presidency happened with Trump, as badly as Bush handled them, Trump would have handled them faaaaaaar worse.

I shudder to think of a 9/11-type event happening with Trump's presidency.

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I only hold Iraq against Bush

Afghanistan after September 11th, I think that was a just war, a necessary war, and a war which was, at one time, winnable

I think Bush took his eye off the ball in order to go do Halliburton's bidding in Iraq and that was his major error in Afghanistan

Apart from that, Bush did not damage the country in the same ways that Trump has (e.g. destroying public trust in elections, blatant and corrupt dealings on the level of Roger Stone (Valerie Plame isn't on the same level imo), physical and institutional attacks on the press and the first amendment, causing the country to unravel with constant overt appeals to racism... list goes on)

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EventualDecline posted...

This post reminds me that a lot if misguided liberals are religious. Thats a dangerous combination. Another good reason for me to never step foot in a church ever again, even as a Trump supporter.

What makes you think that? I think you might be confused, anyway. If you remember, its the media that is the enemy of the people. Not Trump. Amazing how you guys get so much wrong here.

Whos troll account?

EventualDecline posted...

This post reminds me that a lot if misguided liberals are religious. Thats a dangerous combination. Another good reason for me to never step foot in a church ever again, even as a Trump supporter.

@EventualDecline
The original art was made by a Trump-supporter. A shockingly number of Republicans and Trump-supporters see him as the hand of God.

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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

George W. Bush may have been an awful President, but as a person he has redeeming qualities.

he absolutely does not


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Its like I said: people here are basing their decision on emotion rather than being objective.

One guy caused countless lives to be lost and spent trillions upon trillions of dollars that the American people desperately needed. The other guy says mean stuff and people cant accept that he won, so hes somehow worse?

its funny how many people started bootlicking bush when he signaled against trump.

Payzmaykr posted...

The other guy says mean stuff and people cant accept that he won, so hes somehow worse?

This is not the problem people have with Donald Trump
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I don't think the full scope of how harmful Trump is has been revealed yet but he still has a long way to go to catch up with W.

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Payzmaykr posted...

The other guy says mean stuff and people cant accept that he won, so hes somehow worse?

He says mean stuff.

And also put people in concentration camps.

And also helps guys criminal friends avoid any consequences.

And also let a disease get completely out of control while denying it was ever a problem.

And also walks in on underage girls while they're naked.

But sure let's focus on the mean stuff he says and ignore everything else.

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Payzmaykr posted...

The things that you guys are forgetting:

-Bushs wars account for more than US death tolls. Countless non-Americans were killed as a result. Allied soldiers were dragged into a war that we started and many lost their lives. Non combatants in the combat zones were killed, too.

-We have spent trillions of dollars on Bushs war. How much have we spent on the virus?

-Trump has definitely done a horrible job handling the coronavirus, but he didnt create it. This would have happened under anyones administration. The point is that Bush intentionally created a military conflict that is still being fought.

Most of the responses Im getting are emotional rather than logical. Basically, one guy started a war that has killed countless people and put the economic status of the working citizen in dire straits, but a guy who mishandled a pandemic is somehow worse?

(Supporting trump was not the main deciding factor in whether or not most people wore a mask. You guys know that I voted for him and I was the first one of his supporters to call him out on this.)

Payzmaykr posted...

Its like I said: people here are basing their decision on emotion rather than being objective.

One guy caused countless lives to be lost and spent trillions upon trillions of dollars that the American people desperately needed. The other guy says mean stuff and people cant accept that he won, so hes somehow worse?

its funny how many people started bootlicking bush when he signaled against trump.

Pretty much these. No war has been intentionally sought out so far so he is not worse than Dubya.

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