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Monolith1676
07/13/20 10:39:41 PM
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https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2020/07/12/police-shooting-hakim-littleton-protests/5422199002/

This isn't one to protest. Cops were arresting his friend so he shot at the cops and was in turn shot, fell to the ground and shot at the cops again before being killed.

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Monolith1676
07/13/20 11:30:29 PM
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Donut Operator does a pretty good job of explaining what happens.

Video contains dashcam and body camera footage of the shooting.

https://youtu.be/sr7WtmM1-XE

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Monolith1676
07/14/20 12:00:55 PM
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Bump

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Blue_Inigo
07/14/20 12:01:46 PM
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You have a penchant for defending murderous piece of shit cops so I'll take your word with a grain of salt

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Monolith1676
07/14/20 12:02:59 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
You have a penchant for defending murderous piece of shit cops so I'll take your word with a grain of salt

Watch the videos and develop your own conclusion.

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Ryan__Leaf
07/14/20 12:08:24 PM
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TC, much of this board just believes "all cops are bad" without knowing anything about them or their personal life. You're wasting your time trying to get anyone here to think with any logic.

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EnragedSlith
07/14/20 12:10:36 PM
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I used to defend situations like this, but the institution has fostered such a justified and deep resentment that Ive grown tired of missing the forest for the trees.

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MaxEffingBemis
07/14/20 12:10:55 PM
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Monolith1676 posted...
Watch the videos and develop your own conclusion.
Watch this video of this other guy offering his opinion!

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Shablagoo
07/14/20 12:11:22 PM
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Footage is pretty grainy, hard to draw a definitive conclusion. People in the YouTube comments are saying his friend complied and didnt get shot! See! but thats not what people are protesting. You can get killed by police even when complying. George Floyd, Eric Garner, Daniel Shaver, etc. Thats why the protests happen.

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OgesMC
07/14/20 12:15:53 PM
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Why is this even being protested? This guy shot at the cops at close range.
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Were_Wyrm
07/14/20 12:16:02 PM
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Cop should have just shot the gun out of his hands, no reason to murder him.

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Blue_Inigo
07/14/20 12:17:42 PM
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Ryan__Leaf posted...
TC, much of this board just believes "all cops are bad" without knowing anything about them or their personal life. You're wasting your time trying to get anyone here to think with any logic.
How can you see the computer screen with a boot in your mouth?

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Monolith1676
07/14/20 12:21:37 PM
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Shablagoo posted...
Footage is pretty grainy, hard to draw a definitive conclusion. People in the YouTube comments are saying his friend complied and didnt get shot! See! but thats not what people are protesting. You can get killed by police even when complying. George Floyd, Eric Garner, Daniel Shaver, etc. Thats why the protests happen.

They completely left him alone and only focused on the guy that had the warrant. He only drew attention when he produced a gun.

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Prismsblade
07/14/20 12:24:53 PM
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If some people want to protest and lament over the lives of criminals resisting arrest then let them. It says more about them then anyone else.

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Lost_All_Senses
07/14/20 12:28:56 PM
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If he shot first (or even pulled a gun in general), then the cop was right for shooting back. The problem is the situations where there is no gun involved or being used.nobody is saying literally everyone the cops have shot at are innocent.

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pick4six
07/14/20 12:34:49 PM
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Then all of that happened in a 3 seconds or 4 seconds, even some of the cops try to secure the area a few seconds just knowing it was over and the suspect dead already

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RemixRBG
07/14/20 12:36:47 PM
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Were the cops in their legal right to arrest his friend? Let's wait for all the facts before judging the protestors
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Monolith1676
07/14/20 12:42:23 PM
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RemixRBG posted...
Were the cops in their legal right to arrest his friend? Let's wait for all the facts before judging the protestors

He was a suspect in a triple homicide.

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ASithLord7
07/14/20 12:45:11 PM
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RemixRBG posted...
Were the cops in their legal right to arrest his friend? Let's wait for all the facts before judging the protestors
Man ill gladly say fuck all cops as often as possible but regardless of whether his friend deserved to be arrested if the guy shot at the cops its pretty open and shut

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marc55
07/14/20 12:49:10 PM
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MaxEffingBemis posted...
Watch this video of this other guy offering his opinion!
dashcams and bodycams footages are opinions according to you?
im used to reading some dumbs posts on CE but yours is a bit too much

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chrono625
07/14/20 12:53:42 PM
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RemixRBG posted...
Were the cops in their legal right to arrest his friend? Let's wait for all the facts before judging the protestors

he had outstanding warrants for hard narcotics.

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RemixRBG
07/14/20 1:08:43 PM
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chrono625 posted...
he had outstanding warrants for hard narcotics.

Thanks for the info.
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Shablagoo
07/14/20 1:10:54 PM
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Monolith1676 posted...
They completely left him alone and only focused on the guy that had the warrant. He only drew attention when he produced a gun.

Shablagoo posted...
People in the YouTube comments are saying his friend complied and didnt get shot! See! but thats not what people are protesting. You can get killed by police even when complying. George Floyd, Eric Garner, Daniel Shaver, etc. Thats why the protests happen.


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ScazarMeltex
07/14/20 1:14:06 PM
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I have zero reason to trust the cops word on this since multiple cops have been busted planting weapons on people they've shot. This is what happens when people lose trust in the police. Cops no longer get the benefit of the doubt. When I see video footage of it going down exactly the way the cop says, then I'll believe them.

If the dude shot at the cops for arresting his friend, it seems pretty open and shut.

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eston
07/14/20 1:17:03 PM
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"We hear one thing from the police, and another thing from the community. The community told us that the police pulled up, told (him) to get on the ground. He put his hands up, and these mother f------ shot him in the back of the head," he said, adding his sister had been to the hospital and saw his nephew's body.
"He has got two shots in back of his head, plus other bullet wounds."
Looks like the community got this one way wrong

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DiegoSanchez206
07/14/20 1:19:24 PM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
If he shot first (or even pulled a gun in general), then the cop was right for shooting back. The problem is the situations where there is no gun involved or being used.nobody is saying literally everyone the cops have shot at are innocent.
Yes they are lol. Why protest this one then? Ot was obviously justified.

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Lost_All_Senses
07/14/20 1:25:34 PM
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DiegoSanchez206 posted...
Yes they are lol. Why protest this one then? Ot was obviously justified.

You're right, I shouldn't of said no one. There is always people protesting everything. Obviously people close to the situation are gonna be going through things and it blends in with everything else going on. But this wouldn't be something to spike the movement like George Floyd did.

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DiegoSanchez206
07/14/20 1:29:33 PM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
You're right, I shouldn't of said no one. There is always people protesting everything. Obviously people close to the situation are gonna be going through things and it blends in with everything else going on. But this wouldn't be something to spike the movement like George Floyd did.

Sadly there are legit murder cases like the two Wilson, OK officers who murdered a guy (tased him 50 times) and get charged with murder a year later.

No one talks about it. Hes white. He died cruelly.

but we gonna protest some bullshit like this. Zero credibility.

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Houston
07/14/20 1:35:49 PM
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OgesMC posted...
Why is this even being protested? This guy shot at the cops at close range.

Evidently, some people believe certain people shouldn't be killed by police under any circumstances. Even if the officer was defending their life.

Terrible, I know. But that's some of the thought processes we have in our country and we have certain politicians, leaders, and other people from the community pacifying them.

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Monolith1676
07/14/20 2:12:31 PM
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https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/local/2020/07/12/brother-of-hakim-littleton-wants-meeting-with-detroit-city-officials/

Even despite the video evidence, Rashad is refusing to believe how the incident played out. Video from police body cams show Hakim open fire on officers before they fatally shot him. Many protesters by his brothers side took to the to streets to voice their opinions on major roadways like Livernois Avenue and Outer Drive, along with several residential streets as well.

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Lost_All_Senses
07/14/20 2:15:47 PM
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DiegoSanchez206 posted...
Sadly there are legit murder cases like the two Wilson, OK officers who murdered a guy (tased him 50 times) and get charged with murder a year later.

No one talks about it. Hes white. He died cruelly.

but we gonna protest some bullshit like this. Zero credibility.

Oh, you're one of those "please continue to focus on white people for a few hundred more years" types.

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DiegoSanchez206
07/14/20 2:57:23 PM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
Oh, you're one of those "please continue to focus on white people for a few hundred more years" types.
No.

Im one of those You dont act one what you preach types.

BLM days to stop police brutality. They only want it to stop with a certain skin color.

Similar to how black athletes hated on Drew Brees and black ESPN analysts called for him to retire.

But when black athletes make anti-Semitic remarks, its not a big deal.

Hypocrites.

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chrono625
07/14/20 4:27:43 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
I have zero reason to trust the cops word on this since multiple cops have been busted planting weapons on people they've shot. This is what happens when people lose trust in the police. Cops no longer get the benefit of the doubt. When I see video footage of it going down exactly the way the cop says, then I'll believe them.

If the dude shot at the cops for arresting his friend, it seems pretty open and shut.

watch the videos, its pretty clear.

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ghettoraider81
07/14/20 4:31:45 PM
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Protesting clearly justified shootings just cheapens the legit protests.

Its a shame.

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Herodopus
07/14/20 4:34:20 PM
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It's such a shame that the police in this country have abused their power and disregarded social contract to the point people feel this is their only option.
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DiegoSanchez206
07/14/20 6:07:43 PM
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Herodopus posted...
It's such a shame that the police in this country have abused their power and disregarded social contract to the point people feel this is their only option.
This doesnt make sense at all in this situation lmao

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marc55
07/15/20 8:51:32 AM
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Herodopus posted...
It's such a shame that the police in this country have abused their power and disregarded social contract to the point people feel this is their only option.

knowing this one actually has 2 different videos showing what happened .....
can you explain what you mean?

because for me it means you think they have to protest when cops shoot at someone after being shot at

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Monolith1676
07/17/20 12:09:30 AM
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marc55 posted...
knowing this one actually has 2 different videos showing what happened .....
can you explain what you mean?

because for me it means you think they have to protest when cops shoot at someone after being shot at

Protests will happen no matter what.

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indica
07/17/20 12:41:22 AM
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So, I'm not saying you're wrong but what's your point in bringing this up here? Are you trying to say that these protesters are going too far or that the protests in general are going too far? I'd like some context, otherwise I feel like you're just saying that it's not always the police officers fault, which is logically true, but is probably going to fall on emotionally enraged deaf ears.

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Monolith1676
07/18/20 12:15:25 AM
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indica posted...
So, I'm not saying you're wrong but what's your point in bringing this up here? Are you trying to say that these protesters are going too far or that the protests in general are going too far? I'd like some context, otherwise I feel like you're just saying that it's not always the police officers fault, which is logically true, but is probably going to fall on emotionally enraged deaf ears.

They were originally told he was unarmed and that is the narrative that will be ran with by those who think with emotions.

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