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monkmith
07/14/20 3:51:34 PM
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https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/14/politics/ivanka-trump-find-something-new-unemployment/index.html

study for years, or just work hard all your life, only to lose your stable job and have no good hope of getting it back for months if ever? have you thought of just randomly trying something new? maybe go into fashion design, or jewlery sales, or maybe just ask daddy to give you a couple million for a random startup company? you could also just work for daddy's government...

she realizes that the last time a pampered princess acted like this the masses beheaded her, right?

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DevsBro
07/14/20 3:54:55 PM
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Well in fairness, Marie didn't have one of the most technologically advanced antiterror forces of the 21st century protecting her.

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kinetika_
07/14/20 3:55:04 PM
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If I lost my job due to Covid, I would have found something new... but that's just me, I guess. No, I am not a Trump supporter, and I have no party affiliation.

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MC_BatCommander
07/14/20 3:56:19 PM
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kinetika_ posted...
If I lost my job due to Covid, I would have found something new... but that's just me, I guess. No, I am not a Trump support, and I have no party affiliation.

The problem is obvious. Millions of people lost their jobs, there weren't any "new" things to find.

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SmidgeIsntBack
07/14/20 3:56:36 PM
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I'm reminded of the Zen Pencils strip about quitting your boring job and just opening up a yarn store.

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creativerealms
07/14/20 3:58:59 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
The problem is obvious. Millions of people lost their jobs, there weren't any "new" things to find.
Well forcing the economy to open and ignore a pandemic isn't the answer. It will make things worse.

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Damn_Underscore
07/14/20 3:59:37 PM
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"Now, as a result of Covid, people need to, unfortunately, in some cases learn a completely new skill," said Trump on Tuesday during the launch. "But that is also an opportunity to be put on for a new trajectory for themselves and their lives and we want to facilitate that connection back to the workforce and make it as smooth as possible."

What is wrong with this statement?

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kinetika_
07/14/20 4:02:06 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
The problem is obvious. Millions of people lost their jobs, there weren't any "new" things to find.

I was hiring, and so were many other grocery stores and Amazon, and other places. I would have went there.

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Hexenherz
07/14/20 4:02:38 PM
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they want to share their tweet and not get cancelled, too!

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Joeydollaz
07/14/20 4:02:40 PM
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She is a queen btw

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monkmith
07/14/20 4:02:55 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
What is wrong with this statement?
well for one, its essentially the same damn message that conservatives and future trump supporters spent years shitting on... remember the idea of retraining coal miners?

well ok, not exactly the same, seeing that it was a suggested program that would have taken years to implement and have plenty of time to do its thing, instead of suggesting you learn a new skill now and get a new job...

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lightwarrior78
07/14/20 4:09:09 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
What is wrong with this statement?
That it wasn't said 4 months ago when people were looking for stimulus money while treating lockdown as a staycation and putting zero thought into keeping things going if things last long term.

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Damn_Underscore
07/14/20 4:10:45 PM
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There's nothing controversial about that statement. Also, the point of the initiative to promote skills-based education, which is a good thing. This perception is changing, but for a long time blue-collar work was viewed with distaste in this country and it's a good thing that this is changing.

Basically this topic is a huge overexaggeration and really misleading.


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The Catgirl Fondler
07/14/20 4:26:57 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...


The problem is obvious. Millions of people lost their jobs, there weren't any "new" things to find.


And the job market wasn't exactly booming pre-Covid either.

At this point I've just accepted that I'm going to remain homeless until I die, I'm literally excess human garbage in this country.
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R1masher
07/14/20 4:28:00 PM
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Everything is cake...

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monkmith
07/14/20 4:38:09 PM
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ufoivy posted...
McDonalds, Publix, Wal-Mart hire all the time. Farmers are always in need of labor. Women are turning to OnlyFans and making bank. Warehouses typically have a high turnover rate and always need to find new people. The notion that there arent any new jobs is an excuse. Jobs are always appearing and disbuappearing.
but not at an equal rate... which is kind of the point...

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monkmith
07/14/20 4:38:57 PM
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ufoivy posted...
If a young person with no critical conditions or injuries would rather just stay home and collect welfare than they should just say that.
oh, and you updated with the lie about unlimited welfare, nice.

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Son Of Spam
07/14/20 4:39:13 PM
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So while people are training for new jobs are they going to be offered rental assistance and all that? Because several states have ended their rent freeze polices and the extra $600 unemployment weekly benefit ends at the end of the month. It will be hard to train for a new career when you are living out of your car.

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monkmith
07/14/20 4:40:37 PM
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ufoivy posted...
Equality does not exist, never has existed, and never will exist. The same person is not even equal to themselves on a day to day basis.
...is this supposed to mean something? because i think you're trying to say something here but it comes away like you had a stroke...

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Questionmarktarius
07/14/20 4:46:24 PM
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Destigmatization of vocational training is about three or four decades overdue.
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monkmith
07/14/20 4:47:33 PM
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ufoivy posted...
It was updated to reflect the reality of the pandemic. How privileged do you have to be to have been born in the United States and be a physically abled bodied person with no conditions or injuries preventing you from working to go sit on your ass at home on Facebook and Netflix all day while essential employees and employers go out and work during this time period?
so, since you've got no clue what you're talking about might i remind you that you cant just quit your job and ride the welfare wave forever. you've got to apply for jobs and show proof that you're doing it, and you've actually got to accept a position if you get one.

i mean, i know you dont care about these facts, since it doesn't fit your narrative; but i figured i'd give it a try.

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monkmith
07/14/20 4:49:59 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Destigmatization of vocational training is about three or four decades overdue.
and the french pesantry needed food for weeks before marie made her comment. the parallels here are that they are too little too late and tone deaf as fuck, oh and they actually dont help.

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Questionmarktarius
07/14/20 4:52:36 PM
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monkmith posted...
and the french pesantry needed food for weeks before marie made her comment.
How was Marie supposed to cobble together the infrastructure to feed the Paris peasantry anyway?
It's arguably more difficult now that we don't have absolute monarchs anymore.
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Blightzkrieg
07/14/20 4:54:38 PM
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Most of the people who lost jobs aren't going to support themselves on a walmart salary.

If walmart really needs the workers they can raise their salaries, otherwise it's little better than nothing.

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Questionmarktarius
07/14/20 4:56:28 PM
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Blightzkrieg posted...
If walmart really needs the workers they can raise their salaries, otherwise it's little better than nothing.
Good. Let the market economics flow through you.
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KiwiTerraRizing
07/14/20 4:59:51 PM
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Never trust rich people telling you not to get an education.

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monkmith
07/14/20 5:24:53 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
How was Marie supposed to cobble together the infrastructure to feed the Paris peasantry anyway?
It's arguably more difficult now that we don't have absolute monarchs anymore.
i said weeks but the reality was that famine had been rampant in france for years and during this time period the royal family held countless feasts in their palace.

though if i remember my history correctly, the french royalty tried pretty hard to get the peasants to grow and eat potatoes, which could survive the shit climate issues they had at the time much better then the wheat they grew. so at least they did something beyond a half ass "program" and a tone deaf twitter post.

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Touch
07/14/20 5:25:10 PM
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Let them eat ass

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monkmith
07/14/20 5:25:52 PM
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Cpt_Pineapple posted...
learn to code
there's an easily offshored profession...

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Tyranthraxus
07/14/20 5:27:13 PM
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DevsBro posted...
Well in fairness, Marie didn't have one of the most technologically advanced antiterror forces of the 21st century protecting her.

Marie Antoinette also never said "let them eat cake"

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DrizztLink
07/14/20 5:27:40 PM
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"I am dying of thirst."

"That's ridiculous, drink some water."

"There is no water."

"I turn on the facet in my house and it's right there, I don't understand why this is hard for you."

*revolution intensifies*

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meralonne
07/14/20 5:30:38 PM
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KiwiTerraRizing posted...
Never trust rich people telling you not to get an education.

But all of those evil colleges just want to turn you into a librul though!

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monkmith
07/14/20 5:31:34 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Marie Antoinette also never said "let them eat cake"
and if you wait long enough, trump supporters will say that ivanka never said or didn't mean what she said in her tweet...

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Tyranthraxus
07/14/20 5:32:55 PM
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monkmith posted...
and if you wait long enough, trump supporters will say that ivanka never said or didn't mean what she said in her tweet...



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Damn_Underscore
07/15/20 12:17:32 PM
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What is your response to this article TC?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/13/business/coronavirus-retraining-workers.html

This is literally a bipartisan issue. I thought this paragraph was interesting.

Job training in America has often been ineffective, with programs shaped by local politics and money spent according to the number of people in courses rather than hiring outcomes. The United States also spends less than other nations on government employment, training and other labor services. As a percentage of economic activity, Canada spends three times as much, Germany about six times more and Scandinavian countries up to more than 12 times as much, according to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development.


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monkmith
07/15/20 12:26:56 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
What is your response to this article TC?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/13/business/coronavirus-retraining-workers.html

This is literally a bipartisan issue. I thought this paragraph was interesting.
sounds like a great idea, maybe dont make the figurehead of the program that's being started way to late the pampered daughter of a pampered son who's only been successful because daddy funded her? oh, and maybe take her twitter rights away so she doesn't go out and say brainless things?

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BeyondWalls
07/15/20 12:27:46 PM
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Find Something New = Let Them Eat Cake


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ColdRainAndSnow
07/15/20 12:29:15 PM
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Says the person that got a fake job from her daddy and married a millionaire shady dealer

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Sad_Face
07/15/20 12:33:07 PM
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ufoivy posted...
McDonalds, Publix, Wal-Mart hire all the time. Farmers are always in need of labor. Women are turning to OnlyFans and making bank. Warehouses typically have a high turnover rate and always need to find new people. The notion that there arent any new jobs is an excuse. Jobs are always appearing and disappearing. If a young person with no critical conditions or injuries would rather just stay home and collect welfare than they should just say that.

You realize that is digital prostitution, no? Most girls do not make bank off of that and run the risk of their reputation among their peers and family ruined. When nearly a 1/3 of tenants aren't keeping up with rent payment, this advice of "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" clearly isn't accounting for a number of factors going on in people's lives.

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monkmith
07/15/20 12:55:37 PM
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i've always liked that bootstraps saying. if you've ever actually tried pulling boots on by the straps you'd notice its actually impossible since the boots just tighten up, it was actually a saying coined specifically to mean attempting to do the impossible and failing. so every time i hear a republcan say it i cant help but laugh.

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Questionmarktarius
07/15/20 12:57:40 PM
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monkmith posted...
so every time i hear a republcan say it i cant help but laugh.
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kinetika_
07/15/20 2:53:55 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
I was stolen from computer nerds anyway.

Yeah, I only hear that said on these forums. None of the old people out here say that.

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