Current Events > I dont understand people who defend landlords

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Shablagoo posted...

there are 6 empty homes for every homeless person

Hmm that's quite the statistics. I will have to confirm.

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Shablagoo posted...

In the greatest country on Earth, there are 6 empty homes for every homeless person. If that sounds right to anyone, they simply dont have a conscience.

Nobody is stopping you from buying an abandoned row house in Detroit for $1k lol

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Some Native Americans got free homes thanks to the government here in Canada at their reserves and a few trashed the house using the supplies to resell or something.

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Anywhere someone gets a dollar they didn't earn, someone somewhere else earned a dollar they didn't get.

Veggeta X posted...

Hmm that's quite the statistics. I will have to confirm.

Some estimates actually say its even higher.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/post_733_b_692546

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I dont agree with acting like homeless people are societies fault. I do wish there was something better, but I personally have known many homeless people. Some are alcoholics and drug addicts, and dangerous. I had a homeless guy follow me home and threaten to kill me once. And another homeless guy said hed kill me in jail. So im kinda cynical.

Lets say you setup government subsidized housing for homeless people. Ok cool. Where would you build it? Would you be surprised when it turned into a meth enclave with high crime? Would you want that shit across the street from your wife and kids? There is no easy solution. People say "oh mental health care. Rehab
Blah blah blah." Dont try that shit with me. Lots of those people dont give a flying fuck about anything. Straight up, seen it many times. Start giving out free housing, guess what? I guarantee you would have More homeless people lining up to move in, by choice. Food stamps, housing. They already get subuxone so they can "kick" heroin and shit. Next people will be paying for their cigarettes and internet.

How do property taxes go up if landlords buy a lot of houses?

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I helped someone out for a short time by renting a room and charging very little the person lived like a pig. I got rid of them.

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Romulox28 posted...

but ppl that whine about housing costing money dont just care about shelter, they want a nice place in good shape in a desirable area, and its all going to be free for them thanks to strong daddy government

Man you really think that?

Austin_Era_II posted...

Go visit a 3rd world country and go to the slums. There isn't enough money to give everyone affordable living. Learn wealth.

I think that's the root of the problem. Take California for instance, people are rotting away on the streets cuz they don't have the basic necessities while a few live lavish lifestyles. Rent here in Chicago suburbs is like $1200 and it increases $50 every year. Rent and mortgages should geared towards a percentage of a person's monthly income and everyone should qualify regardless of income.

There are rent geared to income rentals, this is all a sham, they only allow tenants that make around the same income per year to live there and the rent is still something outrages like $1300 for a 2 bedroom apartment.

The problem is simple, all the rich wealthy folk in this country with billions of dollars should have their excess wealth seized and redistributed to the poor, you know, the folks that they got all that wealth to begin with from. Life isn't a game, there are folks having to get limbs, fingers, toes amputated because of these parasites. You win at capitalism, now do the right thing and give back to those in need because for these folks it means eating that day, it means their life, it means their limbs, it means having to go through immeasurable suffering. Enough of the bullcrap rhetoric and be honest with the people, show compassion, show love. What the heck do people need more than a billion dollars if they built their own wealth, you should have no problem making it again since you're so good at capitalism, unless they want to admit the truth which is that they capitalized on a moment in their life that worked out for them AKA they won the lottery.

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Romulox generally seems cool though it was like a wild curveball to see him post that, even if he disagrees with the premise of the thread. It was like reading a post by Sean Hannity or something

Herodopus posted...

Man you really think that?

Yes, read page 1 of this topic

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What? I already have, why

lincoln002 posted...

I think that's the root of the problem. Take California for instance, people are rotting away on the streets cuz they don't have the basic necessities while a few live lavish lifestyles. Rent here in Chicago suburbs is like $1200 and it increases $50 every year. Rent and mortgages should geared towards a percentage of a person's monthly income and everyone should qualify regardless of income.

There are rent geared to income rentals, this is all a sham, they only allow tenants that make around the same income per year to live there and the rent is still something outrages like $1300 for a 2 bedroom apartment.

The problem is simple, all the rich wealthy folk in this country with billions of dollars should have their excess wealth seized and redistributed to the poor, you know, the folks that they got all that wealth to begin with from. Life isn't a game, there are folks having to get limbs, fingers, toes amputated because of these parasites. You win at capitalism, now do the right thing and give back to those in need because for these folks it means eating that day, it means their life, it means their limbs, it means having to go through immeasurable suffering. Enough of the bullcrap rhetoric and be honest with the people, show compassion, show love. What the heck do people need more than a billion dollars if they built their own wealth, you should have no problem making it again since you're so good at capitalism, unless they want to admit the truth which is that they capitalized on a moment in their life that worked out for them AKA they won the lottery.

2020.

The prices of houses would drop tremendously if you couldn't rent them out. It's literally rent seeking. Landlords are a parasite. I made sure to buy a house as soon as possible so I wouldn't have to rent. I plan on just selling my house if I move. Fuck renting it out.

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Keith_Valentine posted...

I dont agree with acting like homeless people are societies fault. I do wish there was something better, but I personally have known many homeless people. Some are alcoholics and drug addicts, and dangerous. I had a homeless guy follow me home and threaten to kill me once. And another homeless guy said hed kill me in jail. So im kinda cynical.

Lets say you setup government subsidized housing for homeless people. Ok cool. Where would you build it? Would you be surprised when it turned into a meth enclave with high crime? Would you want that shit across the street from your wife and kids? There is no easy solution. People say "oh mental health care. Rehab
Blah blah blah." Dont try that shit with me. Lots of those people dont give a flying fuck about anything. Straight up, seen it many times. Start giving out free housing, guess what? I guarantee you would have More homeless people lining up to move in, by choice. Food stamps, housing. They already get subuxone so they can "kick" heroin and shit. Next people will be paying for their cigarettes and internet.

Sorry you had those experiences, but I personally know very nice people who live in subsidized housing who dont do any drugs or anything. Many of them are religious. One of them has the occasional edible but hes a very peaceful man and a priest of sorts at a temple.

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Keith_Valentine posted...

2020.

You think your fellow man suffering is funny? Families with small children going hungry while Jeff bezos eats kobe steak and asparagus flown to him directly from japan?

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lincoln002 posted...

I think that's the root of the problem. Take California for instance, people are rotting away on the streets cuz they don't have the basic necessities while a few live lavish lifestyles. Rent here in Chicago suburbs is like $1200 and it increases $50 every year. Rent and mortgages should geared towards a percentage of a person's monthly income and everyone should qualify regardless of income.

There are rent geared to income rentals, this is all a sham, they only allow tenants that make around the same income per year to live there and the rent is still something outrages like $1300 for a 2 bedroom apartment.

The problem is simple, all the rich wealthy folk in this country with billions of dollars should have their excess wealth seized and redistributed to the poor, you know, the folks that they got all that wealth to begin with from. Life isn't a game, there are folks having to get limbs, fingers, toes amputated because of these parasites. You win at capitalism, now do the right thing and give back to those in need because for these folks it means eating that day, it means their life, it means their limbs, it means having to go through immeasurable suffering. Enough of the bullcrap rhetoric and be honest with the people, show compassion, show love. What the heck do people need more than a billion dollars if they built their own wealth, you should have no problem making it again since you're so good at capitalism, unless they want to admit the truth which is that they capitalized on a moment in their life that worked out for them AKA they won the lottery.

There isn't enough wealth to distribute like that. Also what if there was no rich people? Society/technology has advanced due to rich people. If rich people distributed wealth and the average person who complains about going into work got a house free would probably work the bare minimum cause they wanna just sit and home and enjoy life. Some would keep working to buy certain materialistic things, but many wouldn't work as hard.

A rich person who wasn't wealthy from the start comes up with an idea and becomes rich shouldn't be expected to help the world.

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And a lot of rich people do give back to the world. Unfortunately it's never enough.

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Ive had one cool Landlord

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Seizing a bunch of wealth from the rich just doesn't seem feasible these days. Like you'd probably get a mass exodus of the rich, with assets transferred to foreign banks as quickly as possible, and citizenship changes to avoid the government coming and taking a bunch of their stuff.

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Veggeta X posted...

And a lot of rich people do give back to the world. Unfortunately it's never enough.

Exactly. Many give to hospitals who get certain equipment donated which can help the average person. More so in countries with free health care like Canada. Some donate to other places to better the world. Either way you can lose $1B so fast by donating it cause it only can last so much.

The options for spending $1B alone in a city like NYC is very limited.

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Herodopus posted...

Romulox generally seems cool though it was like a wild curveball to see him post that, even if he disagrees with the premise of the thread. It was like reading a post by Sean Hannity or something

If you want to argue thats rent is too high, we should be providing housing for the homeless, how its immoral to evict people or demand payments from people who are impacted by COVID, etc Im fully on board and will agree with all those points. But complaining about how its evil that housing costs money in general is where I get off, it strikes me as such a childish viewpoint

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Austin_Era_II posted...

Go visit a 3rd world country and go to the slums. There isn't enough money to give everyone affordable living. Learn wealth.

yeah we need more trillionaires

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Jabodie posted...

Seizing a bunch of wealth from the rich just doesn't seem feasible these days. Like you'd probably get a mass exodus of the rich, with assets transferred to foreign banks as quickly as possible, and citizenship changes to avoid the government coming and taking a bunch of their stuff.

That hasn't stopped the US in the case of other fugitives. Why the special treatment for the scumbag rich?

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Rika_Furude posted...

houses should be a home. Not a source of income. There are no good landlords unless they are renting at a loss in order to help those less fortunate

lmao

Ok

I dont think you get to claim the moral high ground while advocating for mass asset seizure

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1337toothbrush posted...

The prices of houses would drop tremendously if you couldn't rent them out. It's literally rent seeking. Landlords are a parasite. I made sure to buy a house as soon as possible so I wouldn't have to rent. I plan on just selling my house if I move. Fuck renting it out.

I hope you sell the house for what you owe. There is no room for you profiting off of someone just wanting shelter

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lincoln002 posted...

You think your fellow man suffering is funny?

Ive been homeless, that shame shit doesnt work on me. I was laughing at your emotional pleas to seize peoples money and give it to the poor like Robin Hood. I wouldnt even mind higher capital gains taxes, flat tax, shit like that. But guys like you i imagine banging on the keyboard with tears streaming down your face as your heart bleeds for every person who has ever felt pain. Just makes me glad im not you. Have you volunteered your time to a shelter or donated any money to the needy lately btw?

Shablagoo posted...

Sorry you had those experiences, but I personally know very nice people who live in subsidized housing who dont do any drugs or anything. Many of them are religious. One of them has the occasional edible but hes a very peaceful man and a priest of sorts at a temple.

Thats cool. One of the toughest guys i ever knew was homeless, this crazy native cat. I mean he was a fucking badass. But horrible when he got drunk.

Im sure there is some middle ground. Like we could agree, some shelters would be better than more bombs and tanks in the middle east. Its just as i said, i know homeless people too. Some of them were totally dangerous, i doubt a civilian would know how to handle that. Thats why they usually give them 2 dollars and get the fucI away. Most people dont wanna live next door to that. Its a problem in my city.

Romulox28 posted...

If you want to argue thats rent is too high, we should be providing housing for the homeless, how its immoral to evict people or demand payments from people who are impacted by COVID, etc Im fully on board and will agree with all those points. But complaining about how its evil that housing costs money in general is where I get off, it strikes me as such a childish viewpoint

You're talking to Hairistotle

You know, the dude who dropped out of high school and whose mind is still stuck in middle school.

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1337toothbrush posted...

That hasn't stopped the US in the case of other fugitives. Why the special treatment for the scumbag rich?

What exactly would make them fugitives? It's not illegal to move out of the country and change citizenship. And all this can be done before any legislation is actually passed. Even if somebody like Bernie won the primary, i wouldn't be surprised if rich people started doing something like this.

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Home owner with kids: Wow my house has tripled in value. Yay.

Home owner with kids: Boo how will my child ever afford a house if they don't have 8% down


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I hate to say this but I agree with Keith. Let's not act like the vast majority of homeless people are saints.

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g980 posted...

Are grocers evil too?

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ApoorHollow posted...

I hope you sell the house for what you owe. There is no room for you profiting off of someone just wanting shelter

That wouldn't help because whoever I sold it to would most likely be someone looking to profit.

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g980 posted...

Are grocers evil too?

I've seen a poster here say so. You can probably guess which one tbh

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Jabodie posted...

What exactly would make them fugitives? It's not illegal to move out of the country and change citizenship. And all this can be done before any legislation is actually passed. Even if somebody like Bernie won the primary, i wouldn't be surprised if rich people started doing something like this.

They would be if they're fleeing due to legislation finally passing that would make them pay what is long overdue. The laws can be made retroactive because they made their profits due to the prior corrupt system. The US has no problem doing this with drugs, which are less harmful than these rich parasites.

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Veggeta X posted...

I hate to say this but I agree with Keith. Let's not act like the vast majority of homeless people are saints.

This. Sad truth.

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archedsoul posted...

You're talking to Hairistotle

You know, the dude who dropped out of high school and whose mind is still stuck in middle school.

i love you man. your stories get wilder every time

Herodopus posted...

i love you man. your stories get wilder every time

What stories? You admit you dropped out yourself and it's obvious with the way you post that you're still stuck in middle school mentally.

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1337toothbrush posted...

That wouldn't help because whoever I sold it to would most likely be someone looking to profit.

but at least you'd stand by your principles
or are you just a phony who wants other people to do things you wouldn't do?
that doesn't sound like you at all, man

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yea I'm totes a high school dropout

1337toothbrush posted...

They would be if they're fleeing due to legislation finally passing that would make them pay what is long overdue. The laws can be made retroactive because they made their profits due to the prior corrupt system. The US has no problem doing this with drugs, which are less harmful than these rich parasites.

That's actually illegal.

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i don't think he cares about that

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while i agree that housing should be accessible and available to all, this idea that nobody should be allowed to profit off of things they own is just asinine.

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The Trent posted...

i don't think he cares about that

Oh, I know that.

I was really wondering where he got the bit about drugs and was hoping he would explain more.

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People just don't understand how the world operates.

I use to be hard in my mid 20s about rich people spreading the wealth then got a better understanding of wealth and stuff. Sadly there are many poor people all over the world.

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The Trent posted...

but at least you'd stand by your principles
or are you just a phony who wants other people to do things you wouldn't do?
that doesn't sound like you at all, man

That's like hiring a hitman because you don't want to commit murder. You're still having someone killed. The system itself has to change. Libertarianism is naive at best, malicious at worst, and could probably be best described as stupid.

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Alteres posted...

That's actually illegal.

ThaT'S actuAlly ILLegAl.

The laws are what determine what's legal. We can change them. Something being legal or illegal is an idiotic point to make when arguing what should or should not be.

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