Poll of the Day > Ohio House Speaker Larry Householder (R) arrested on racketeering charges

Topic List	Page List: 1
Far-Queue 07/21/20 1:13:29 PM #1:	Quite a surprise. This is so unlike Republicans to do anything corrupt or dishonest. https://www.wsj.com/articles/larry-householder-ohios-house-speaker-arrested-on-racketeering-charges-11595350062 Ohio House Speaker Larry Householder, a Republican, was arrested Tuesday morning on racketeering charges related to a $1 billion bailout of two Ohio nuclear plants, according to people familiar with the matter. The bill that led to the bailout, which was funded by Ohioans through charges on their utility bills, was the subject of investigationslast year by local news organizations, which reported that Mr. Householder was instrumental in helping to push through the bill, which propped up two nuclear plants owned by then-bankrupt FirstEnergy Solutions Corp., now named Energy Harbor Corp. The Federal Bureau of Investigation and U.S. attorneys office have scheduled a press conference Tuesday afternoon that is expected to provide further details about allegations related to a $60 million bribe to a state official and associates. Also arrested Tuesday were former Ohio Republican Party Chairman and consultant Matt Borges, lobbyist Neil Clark, FirstEnergy Solutions lobbyist Juan Cespedes, and Householder aide Jeff Longstreth, according to a person with knowledge of the arrests. A request for comment sent to Mr. Householders office wasnt immediately returned. A subsidiary of publicly traded FirstEnergyCorp., FirstEnergy Solutions filed for bankruptcy in 2018 after competition from natural gas and renewable energy sources undercut the profitability of its nuclear and coal plants. FirstEnergy Solutions tried and failed to obtain a bailout from the Trump administration. But lawmakers in Ohio intervened on its behalf. The new owners of FirstEnergy Solutions are getting a boost from a $150 million annual subsidy package enacted by Ohios legislature. The legislation has been controversial in Ohio, where opponents to the bill sought a referendum and filed a lawsuit to overturn the subsidies. This is Mr. Householders second time as House Speaker. He held the position from 2001 to 2004 and left office during a federal probe in which he and several advisers were being investigated for money laundering. No charges were filed in the case. --- https://imgur.com/ZwO4qO2 "Far-Queue is probably one of the least troll-like of the posters here." - LinkPizza <cite>Far-Queue posted [p:942398424] in Ohio House... [t:78861938]...</cite> <quote>Quite a surprise. This is so unlike Republicans to do anything corrupt or dishonest. https://www.wsj.com/articles/larry-householder-ohios-house-speaker-arrested-on-racketeering-charges-11595350062 <quote>Ohio House Speaker Larry Householder, a Republican, was arrested Tuesday morning on racketeering charges related to a $1 billion bailout of two Ohio nuclear plants, according to people familiar with the matter. The bill that led to the bailout, which was funded by Ohioans through charges on their utility bills, was the subject of investigationslast year by local news organizations, which reported that Mr. Householder was instrumental in helping to push through the bill, which propped up two nuclear plants owned by then-bankrupt FirstEnergy Solutions Corp., now named Energy Harbor Corp. The Federal Bureau of Investigation and U.S. attorneys office have scheduled a press conference Tuesday afternoon that is expected to provide further details about allegations related to a $60 million bribe to a state official and associates. Also arrested Tuesday were former Ohio Republican Party Chairman and consultant Matt Borges, lobbyist Neil Clark, FirstEnergy Solutions lobbyist Juan Cespedes, and Householder aide Jeff Longstreth, according to a person with knowledge of the arrests. A request for comment sent to Mr. Householders office wasnt immediately returned. A subsidiary of publicly traded FirstEnergyCorp., FirstEnergy Solutions filed for bankruptcy in 2018 after competition from natural gas and renewable energy sources undercut the profitability of its nuclear and coal plants. FirstEnergy Solutions tried and failed to obtain a bailout from the Trump administration. But lawmakers in Ohio intervened on its behalf. The new owners of FirstEnergy Solutions are getting a boost from a $150 million annual subsidy package enacted by Ohios legislature. The legislation has been controversial in Ohio, where opponents to the bill sought a referendum and filed a lawsuit to overturn the subsidies. This is Mr. Householders second time as House Speaker. He held the position from 2001 to 2004 and left office during a federal probe in which he and several advisers were being investigated for money laundering. No charges were filed in the case.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReggieTheReckless 07/21/20 1:15:51 PM #2:	Far-Queue posted... Quite a surprise. This is so unlike Republicans to do anything corrupt or dishonest. it's all of them literally every politician republican, democrat, independent all of them <cite>ReggieTheReckless posted [p:942398526] in Ohio House... [t:78861938]...</cite> <quote>Far-Queue posted... </cite> <quote>Quite a surprise. This is so unlike Republicans to do anything corrupt or dishonest.</quote>it's all of them literally every politician republican, democrat, independent all of them </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rjsilverthorn 07/21/20 1:19:50 PM #3:	ReggieTheReckless posted... it's all of them literally every politician republican, democrat, independent all of them I wouldn't say every politician, there are probably some exceptions, but certainly every party. <cite>rjsilverthorn posted [p:942398707] in Ohio House... [t:78861938]...</cite> <quote>ReggieTheReckless posted... </cite> <quote>it's all of them literally every politician republican, democrat, independent all of them</quote> I wouldn't say every politician, there are probably some exceptions, but certainly every party. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 07/21/20 1:24:38 PM #4:	Fuck politicians and lobbyists --- Align your chakras, it starts with your breathing. http://www.arfalpha.com/ScienceOfBreath/ScienceOfBreath.htm <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:942398871] in Ohio House... [t:78861938]...</cite> <quote>Fuck politicians and lobbyists </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
helIy 07/21/20 1:55:22 PM #5:	This is Mr. Householders second time as House Speaker. He held the position from 2001 to 2004 and left office during a federal probe in which he and several advisers were being investigated for money laundering. No charges were filed in the case. lmao --- i am the headline <cite>helIy posted [p:942400074] in Ohio House... [t:78861938]...</cite> <quote><quote>This is Mr. Householders second time as House Speaker. He held the position from 2001 to 2004 and left office during a federal probe in which he and several advisers were being investigated for money laundering. No charges were filed in the case.</quote> lmao </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pedro45 07/21/20 2:32:53 PM #6:	rjsilverthorn posted... I wouldn't say every politician, there are probably some exceptions, but certainly every party. The reasoning surely differs between parties. There's personal gain, of course, but the price differs and the cost of the people they represent changes. --- Warning: Sometimes biased https://imgur.com/V0x5fw8 https://imgur.com/IOovUge https://imgur.com/zw7bqPH <cite>pedro45 posted [p:942401554] in Ohio House... [t:78861938]...</cite> <quote>rjsilverthorn posted... </cite> <quote>I wouldn't say every politician, there are probably some exceptions, but certainly every party.</quote> The reasoning surely differs between parties. There's personal gain, of course, but the price differs and the cost of the people they represent changes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Far-Queue 07/21/20 3:00:30 PM #7:	SunWuKung420 posted... Fuck politicians and lobbyists I try but security usually takes me down before I can even get my dick out --- https://imgur.com/ZwO4qO2 "Far-Queue is probably one of the least troll-like of the posters here." - LinkPizza <cite>Far-Queue posted [p:942402730] in Ohio House... [t:78861938]...</cite> <quote>SunWuKung420 posted... </cite> <quote>Fuck politicians and lobbyists</quote>I try but security usually takes me down before I can even get my dick out </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
streamofthesky 07/21/20 3:05:57 PM #8:	helIy posted... lmao Maybe the third time he's in office and gets busted for corruption will be the charm where he actually goes to jail! <cite>streamofthesky posted [p:942402940] in Ohio House... [t:78861938]...</cite> <quote>helIy posted... </cite> <quote>lmao</quote>Maybe the third time he's in office and gets busted for corruption will be the charm where he actually goes to jail! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 07/21/20 4:18:13 PM #9:	Far-Queue posted... Quite a surprise. This is so unlike Republicans to do anything corrupt or dishonest. I remember Jon Stewart did a whole bit after Nancy Pelosi commented on a corruption case and said that her party would never do anything like that where he highlighted 4 examples of Democrats engaging in corruption within either the last week or last month (including an anti-gun state senator who tried to sell guns to terrorists). Not to mention that one of CT's current Democrat mayors was previous convicted of racketeering the last time he was mayor... and got re-elected after he was released from prison (and then he ran for governor, and he was STILL better than the asshole who won the primary). Corruption is a bipartisan thing. At any rate, what's not a surprise is that you only seem to highlight the party when a Republican does it >_> rjsilverthorn posted... I wouldn't say every politician, there are probably some exceptions, but certainly every party. The only truly honest politician in the last 50 years might have been Jimmy Carter and he was a terrible president. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:942406032] in Ohio House... [t:78861938]...</cite> <quote>Far-Queue posted... </cite> <quote>Quite a surprise. This is so unlike Republicans to do anything corrupt or dishonest.</quote> I remember Jon Stewart did a whole bit after Nancy Pelosi commented on a corruption case and said that her party would never do anything like that where he highlighted 4 examples of Democrats engaging in corruption within either the last week or last month (including an anti-gun state senator who tried to sell guns to terrorists). Not to mention that one of CT's current Democrat mayors was previous convicted of racketeering the last time he was mayor... and got re-elected after he was released from prison (and then he ran for governor, and he was STILL better than the asshole who won the primary). Corruption is a bipartisan thing. At any rate, what's not a surprise is that you only seem to highlight the party when a Republican does it >_> rjsilverthorn posted... </cite> <quote>I wouldn't say every politician, there are probably some exceptions, but certainly every party.</quote> The only truly honest politician in the last 50 years might have been Jimmy Carter and he was a terrible president. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Far-Queue 07/21/20 4:47:31 PM #10:	Zeus posted... At any rate, what's not a surprise is that you only seem to highlight the party when a Republican does it >_> Not true. I made a topic about those politicians, Diane Feinstein included, dumping stock at the start of the pandemic, and remarked how they should all be in prison. Point out where I said only Republicans are crooked. --- https://imgur.com/ZwO4qO2 "Far-Queue is probably one of the least troll-like of the posters here." - LinkPizza <cite>Far-Queue posted [p:942407246] in Ohio House... [t:78861938]...</cite> <quote>Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>At any rate, what's not a surprise is that you only seem to highlight the party when a Republican does it >_></quote> Not true. I made a topic about those politicians, Diane Feinstein included, dumping stock at the start of the pandemic, and remarked how they should all be in prison.Point out where I said only Republicans are crooked. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Arcturusisnow 07/21/20 10:13:30 PM #11:	Zeus posted... I remember Jon Stewart did a whole bit after Nancy Pelosi commented on a corruption case and said that her party would never do anything like that where he highlighted 4 examples of Democrats engaging in corruption within either the last week or last month (including an anti-gun state senator who tried to sell guns to terrorists). Not to mention that one of CT's current Democrat mayors was previous convicted of racketeering the last time he was mayor... and got re-elected after he was released from prison (and then he ran for governor, and he was STILL better than the asshole who won the primary). Corruption is a bipartisan thing. At any rate, what's not a surprise is that you only seem to highlight the party when a Republican does it >_> The only truly honest politician in the last 50 years might have been Jimmy Carter and he was a terrible president. Yeah, which party is trying to kill minorities right now? Oh yeah, the republicans. <cite>Arcturusisnow posted [p:942419510] in Ohio House... [t:78861938]...</cite> <quote>Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>I remember Jon Stewart did a whole bit after Nancy Pelosi commented on a corruption case and said that her party would never do anything like that where he highlighted 4 examples of Democrats engaging in corruption within either the last week or last month (including an anti-gun state senator who tried to sell guns to terrorists). Not to mention that one of CT's current Democrat mayors was previous convicted of racketeering the last time he was mayor... and got re-elected after he was released from prison (and then he ran for governor, and he was STILL better than the asshole who won the primary). Corruption is a bipartisan thing. At any rate, what's not a surprise is that you only seem to highlight the party when a Republican does it >_> The only truly honest politician in the last 50 years might have been Jimmy Carter and he was a terrible president.</quote>Yeah, which party is trying to kill minorities right now? Oh yeah, the republicans. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 07/22/20 5:41:32 PM #12:	Far-Queue posted... 1. Not true. I made a topic about those politicians, Diane Feinstein included, dumping stock at the start of the pandemic, and remarked how they should all be in prison. 2. Point out where I said only Republicans are crooked. Far-Queue posted... Quite a surprise. This is so unlike Republicans to do anything corrupt or dishonest. Pretty much suggests an exclusivity. Arcturusisnow posted... Yeah, which party is trying to kill minorities right now? Oh yeah, the republicans. User Info: Arcturusisnow Regular User User Since: Apr 2020Karma: 80Active Posts: 10Total Badges: 7 Newest: June Loyalist Rarest: June Loyalist Follow PM Ignore Regardless, both parties are killing minorities, although it's stupid to highlight minorities anyway instead of looking at deaths as a whole. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:942452278] in Ohio House... [t:78861938]...</cite> <quote>Far-Queue posted... </cite> <quote>1. Not true. I made a topic about those politicians, Diane Feinstein included, dumping stock at the start of the pandemic, and remarked how they should all be in prison. 2. Point out where I said only Republicans are crooked.</quote> Far-Queue posted... </cite> <quote>Quite a surprise. This is so unlike Republicans to do anything corrupt or dishonest.</quote> Pretty much suggests an exclusivity. Arcturusisnow posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah, which party is trying to kill minorities right now? Oh yeah, the republicans.</quote> <quote>User Info: Arcturusisnow Regular User User Since: Apr 2020Karma: 80Active Posts: 10Total Badges: 7 Newest: June Loyalist Rarest: June Loyalist Follow PM Ignore</quote> Regardless, both parties are killing minorities, although it's stupid to highlight minorities anyway instead of looking at deaths as a whole. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Far-Queue 07/22/20 6:15:44 PM #13:	Zeus posted... Pretty much suggests an exclusivity. Sure, if you don't bother to ask any further questions and draw your conclusions off of one sarcastic post. You assume too much. --- https://imgur.com/ZwO4qO2 "Far-Queue is probably one of the least troll-like of the posters here." - LinkPizza <cite>Far-Queue posted [p:942453546] in Ohio House... [t:78861938]...</cite> <quote>Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>Pretty much suggests an exclusivity.</quote>Sure, if you don't bother to ask any further questions and draw your conclusions off of one sarcastic post. You assume too much. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 07/22/20 6:27:08 PM #14:	ReggieTheReckless posted... it's all of them literally every politician republican, democrat, independent all of them the VAST majority are conservatives, its a simple fact --- The Betrayer <cite>Mead posted [p:942454004] in Ohio House... [t:78861938]...</cite> <quote>ReggieTheReckless posted... </cite> <quote>it's all of them literally every politician republican, democrat, independent all of them</quote> the VAST majority are conservatives, its a simple fact </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rjsilverthorn 07/22/20 6:33:47 PM #15:	Mead posted... the VAST majority are conservatives, its a simple fact That you are presenting with no source. <cite>rjsilverthorn posted [p:942454270] in Ohio House... [t:78861938]...</cite> <quote>Mead posted... </cite> <quote>the VAST majority are conservatives, its a simple fact</quote>That you are presenting with no source. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 07/22/20 6:46:59 PM #16:	rjsilverthorn posted... That you are presenting with no source. https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/06/our-score-so-far-republicans-89-democrats-1/ --- The Betrayer <cite>Mead posted [p:942454745] in Ohio House... [t:78861938]...</cite> <quote>rjsilverthorn posted... </cite> <quote>That you are presenting with no source.</quote> https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/06/our-score-so-far-republicans-89-democrats-1/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rjsilverthorn 07/22/20 6:48:26 PM #17:	Mead posted... https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/06/our-score-so-far-republicans-89-democrats-1/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_state_and_local_politicians_convicted_of_crimes <cite>rjsilverthorn posted [p:942454794] in Ohio House... [t:78861938]...</cite> <quote>Mead posted... </cite> <quote>https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/06/our-score-so-far-republicans-89-democrats-1/</quote> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_state_and_local_politicians_convicted_of_crimes </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 07/22/20 7:11:21 PM #18:	rjsilverthorn posted... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_state_and_local_politicians_convicted_of_crimes so you think its fine that there is brazen corruption and wrongdoing of republicans in particular at the federal level, just as long as you can declare both sides! when it comes to smaller state and local politics --- The Betrayer <cite>Mead posted [p:942455558] in Ohio House... [t:78861938]...</cite> <quote>rjsilverthorn posted... </cite> <quote>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_state_and_local_politicians_convicted_of_crimes</quote> so you think its fine that there is brazen corruption and wrongdoing of republicans in particular at the federal level, just as long as you can declare both sides! when it comes to smaller state and local politics </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rjsilverthorn 07/22/20 7:15:50 PM #19:	Mead posted... so you think its fine that there is brazen corruption and wrongdoing of republicans in particular at the federal level, just as long as you can declare both sides! when it comes to smaller state and local politics No, my point from the start is I just don't trust any politicians. Edit-I'm also not sure about that list you posted. The source quoted in the article is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_political_scandals_in_the_United_States but it doesn't seem to match up against this one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_federal_officials_convicted_of_corruption_offenses but the fact that we have multiple articles to choose from is pretty telling on the state of US politics. <cite>rjsilverthorn posted [p:942455689] in Ohio House... [t:78861938]...</cite> <quote>Mead posted... </cite> <quote>so you think its fine that there is brazen corruption and wrongdoing of republicans in particular at the federal level, just as long as you can declare both sides! when it comes to smaller state and local politics </quote>No, my point from the start is I just don't trust any politicians. Edit-I'm also not sure about that list you posted. The source quoted in the article is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_political_scandals_in_the_United_States but it doesn't seem to match up against this one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_federal_officials_convicted_of_corruption_offenses but the fact that we have multiple articles to choose from is pretty telling on the state of US politics. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 07/22/20 7:27:28 PM #20:	rjsilverthorn posted... No, my point from the start is I just don't trust any politicians. thats fair --- The Betrayer <cite>Mead posted [p:942456049] in Ohio House... [t:78861938]...</cite> <quote>rjsilverthorn posted... </cite> <quote>No, my point from the start is I just don't trust any politicians.</quote> thats fair </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sveksii 07/22/20 7:48:43 PM #21:	Zeus posted... Pretty much suggests an exclusivity. While you can conclude the contrapositive Q P from P Q, it does not imply the inverse P Q. That you would conclude otherwise says more about you than anything else. <cite>sveksii posted [p:942456785] in Ohio House... [t:78861938]...</cite> <quote>Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>Pretty much suggests an exclusivity.</quote>While you can conclude the contrapositive Q P from P Q, it does not imply the inverse P Q. That you would conclude otherwise says more about you than anything else. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Topic List	Page List: 1

Poll of the Day > Ohio House Speaker Larry Householder (R) arrested on racketeering charges (+) Yeah! (+)

Poll of the Day > Ohio House Speaker Larry Householder (R) arrested on racketeering charges