Board 8 > King of Fighters 2020 (NOT MERCS) R1D21: Scheherazade vs Sera Himeura (High)

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NFUN
07/21/20 8:14:50 PM
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Welcome to the King of Fighters 2020 (NOT MERCS) Simulated Character Battle Tournament!

The game is simple. The two* listed characters are placed in an (imaginary) location with a variety of (imaginary) environments, kind of like a picture in a child's schoolbook that describes different types of geological features. Within a ten mile radius, there is an (imaginary) urban downtown, exurbs, plains, snow-clad mountains at the edge, dry plains, etc. Fighters start wherever is most appropriate for them, but feel increasingly compelled to seek out their opponent and fight. Strong-willed fighters can try to hold out in their chosen environment for longer... eventually, all will succumb and actively search for the other to battle.

To participate, just vote in bold for whichever character you believe will win. Giving reasoning is optional, but please be polite and read what others have said and carefully make your decision. I'll ping the nominators (they can opt out) to give arguments if they wish.

Results/Discussion: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/78797189

TODAY'S PARTICIPANTS:
Scheherazade (FGO)

With control over what one might roughly call "space" and "time", Scheherazade has extremely bad art that I am sparing you all from. You're welcome.

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Sera Himeura (ib: Instant Bullet)

Veering dangerously close to being a literal glass cannon, Sera Himeura is a nerd who can summon any explosive on the planet

@KanzarisKelshen @cakophon

FIGHT

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NFUN
07/21/20 8:15:04 PM
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Note that there are still two hours left in yesterday's match

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PrinceKaro
07/21/20 8:25:26 PM
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I just love matches between two obscure anime characters with little info about them

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rwlh
07/21/20 9:32:47 PM
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VS Battles Wiki doesn't have anything on either of these two.
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Drakeryn
07/21/20 9:35:56 PM
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tag
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MariaTaylor
07/21/20 9:42:46 PM
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when in doubt, vote for the anime girl

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NFUN
07/21/20 9:49:54 PM
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if we get no info I'm voting Sera out of principle

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rwlh
07/21/20 9:56:28 PM
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promising
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rwlh
07/21/20 10:00:11 PM
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Fate Grand Order wiki gives us:

"One Thousand and One Nights
Rank: EX
Type: Anti-King
Alf Layla wa-Layla.
Due its origin, it possesses a damage specialty towards the king-attribute.
Even if that is not the case strictly speaking, there are times when similar existences are deemed equivalent to a king for her.

This is a Reality Marble of the story she tells.
By telling a story with such an overwhelming presencesense of reality that even the world believes in it, said story is materialized.
It takes the shape of summoning the characters, tools and spirits from the One Thousand and One Nights. Since a proper, historical One Thousand and One Nights does not originally exists, even episodes that were later producedabsorbed - such as Aladdin and Ali Baba - can be employed, as they are useful for her survival as a Heroic Spirit. Whats important is not its accuracy. But whether the king found it interesting or not.
At last, the story (Noble Phantasm) would of course close like this.

---such was the tale."

and

"Storyteller: EX
A skill that denotes how skillfully one can tell tales and legends.
Something completely different from the art to write down stories on books, this is a story-conveyance ability specialized in improvisation, such as taking the mood and mental state of the audience into consideration to choose the appropriate way of reciting.
Probably something that a rakugoka Heroic Spirit would also have.

Counter-Hero: A
For her, this skill is restricted to Anti-King.
For that reason, she possesses A Rank on it.
In her case, it especially denotes the capacity to survive against existences related to a king; by grasping the kings temper, personality, abilities, principles, physical condition, etc, to employ all wiles possible, at the very least, she can conduct herself in a way that will not get her killed - no matter what kind of a whimsical king the opponent may be."

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Drakeryn
07/21/20 10:16:19 PM
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Okay so here's what google gives me on Scheherazade:
- Don't look up pics of her augh my eyes
- She's basically a reality-warping storyteller. Her Noble Phantasm is a Reality Marble that can manifest any story as reality. It doesn't have to be a real, historical story; the better she can sell it, the more effect it has. Which seems really powerful in theory, although my 30 seconds in google did not provide me with any plot showings.
- She's also really good at reading the personality/temperament of kings (and king-like people, so I presume any sufficiently powerful leader would count) so that she can behave in ways that convince her not to kill them.
- But aside from her NP, her damage is "not exciting," meaning that NP spam is "pretty much the only good thing about her."

https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/Scheherazade
https://community.gamepress.gg/t/scheherazade/20404/2
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PrinceKaro
07/21/20 10:32:20 PM
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someone find out if Sera can just drop a nuclear bomb on her opponent or something

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Drakeryn
07/21/20 10:32:50 PM
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Sera is an "Instant Bullet," having been granted "the power to destroy the world." She has the ability to summon any explosives that exist on earth. She is a cheerful girl who wants to save the world, and she's described as "an otaku with no friends who enjoys anime and manga" - so presumably she doesn't count as a king.

"We have a lot of content on this wiki. With your help, we can make it even better."

https://myanimelist.net/character/91916/Sera_Himeura
https://ib-instant-bullet.fandom.com/wiki/Main_Page

(yeah I basically just repeated nfun's blurb, that's all I got. the manga seems pretty short though so maybe I'll get back to you)

I feel like Schera probably has the initial upper hand because she's manipulative and Sera likes stories but idk
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Shonen_Bat
07/21/20 10:32:55 PM
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does she actually have to sit there and tell a story to make things happen, cause uh, telling a story takes a long time and her opponent has explosives

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Drakeryn
07/21/20 10:53:40 PM
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ok sera just summoned a grenade

now she and the main character are chasing after a small cat-like demon

sera's plan is to level up by killing small demons and then eventually kill the final boss
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Drakeryn
07/21/20 10:57:54 PM
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sera only got her powers this morning. she was walking her dog and then randomly found a grenade in her pocket.

back in the present, she throws the grenade at the demon. the demon dodges. now we're running from the demon.

main: can you still use that grenade?!
sera: no, it's already exhausting just using it once. continuously using it is a bit...
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Drakeryn
07/21/20 11:13:59 PM
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okay the "grenades" are just illusions to mask the full extent of her power

"I have dominion over every bomb in the world, and any sort of bomb that exists on earth can be called forth. It's an 'explosives' ability. Might be easier to just call it magic summoning though. If I felt like it, I could even detonate every nuclear weapon on the planet."
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PrinceKaro
07/21/20 11:26:02 PM
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Drakeryn posted...
"I have dominion over every bomb in the world, and any sort of bomb that exists on earth can be called forth. It's an 'explosives' ability. Might be easier to just call it magic summoning though. If I felt like it, I could even detonate every nuclear weapon on the planet."

ok then it doesn't really matter what story Schehgesundheit tells because everyone just gets melted

Sera Himeura

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rwlh
07/21/20 11:43:16 PM
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Would she actually do that though? Detonate a nuclear warhead? Is it in her personality to be so trigger happy? And does it count as a win if she kills herself along with her opponent?

Also, Fate servants can't be harmed by conventional means, right? How conventional is an explosive?

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Drakeryn
07/22/20 1:24:22 AM
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An IB's power is born of malice. Sera is bubbly/cute/etc. but has no concept of friendship and, fundamentally, doesn't care about anything except herself and her own desire to be a hero. She would wipe out a city of innocents to also take out a handful of enemies (she actually attempts this near the beginning with a nuclear armed satellite but is foiled by the main character). But I don't think she'd immediately go for the suicide strat; she does want to live. Anyway a double kill is a draw tbqh.

Halfway through, here's some featz:
- Struggled in a fight against a cat-sized demon - https://tinyurl.com/y69cjqcs - notably, the only time so far she's been in actual pitched combat
- Removed all the bullets from an enemy's gun (she did this from offscreen, then left the actual battle to her allies)
- Launched a missile to destroy a skyscraper-sized tower - https://tinyurl.com/y5vx36dm

So she clearly has big firepower, but against a human-sized opponent I'm not convinced she opens with it. Personality-wise, she has no compunctions about killing but is also chatty so I could see her giving Schera enough time to spin a story.
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Shonen_Bat
07/22/20 1:41:58 AM
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if that's who we're dealing with here it's probably not going to take very long for her to feel compelled to fight, at which point she'll just say 'screw the story' and drop some dynamite on Say Cheese or something

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Drakeryn
07/22/20 3:12:04 AM
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ok some CORRECTIONS
- Sera totally would bust out big missiles in a 1v1 - https://tinyurl.com/y5gyzpye
- and she totally would go for mutually assured destruction if she thought she had something to gain - https://tinyurl.com/y2b4mqhu

meanwhile Schera continues to be a giant pile of vague. like in theory with her power she could be like "Once upon a time, there was a world with no weapons" and if Sera got caught up in the story, there goes her entire arsenal. or "Once upon a time, there was a hero who got along with everyone and had no superpowers." but - no showings. and she has a really small margin of error to incapacitate Sera before her face gets blown off

Sera Himeura
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rwlh
07/22/20 11:28:13 AM
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Sounds good to me.

Sera.
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MariaTaylor
07/22/20 11:37:31 AM
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I like how Drak went and read an obscure manga just so this match could be resolved

what a hero

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Shonen_Bat
07/22/20 11:38:55 AM
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Sera

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Johnbobb
07/22/20 11:43:22 AM
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none of those tinyurl links are working

Scheherazade because as vague as it sounds, unless Sera goes in immediately nukes blazing, it would be super easy for a storytelling reality-warper to make Sera's powers useless

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Drakeryn
07/22/20 12:03:47 PM
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Johnbobb posted...
none of those tinyurl links are working

weird, they work for me

anyway, the other thing is that sera is way better at range. schera seems to need an audience for her stories. so if they see each other from afar (possible on this terrain) it's not great for her

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NFUN
07/22/20 1:35:30 PM
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Sera

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