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viewmaster_pi
07/31/20 12:00:14 AM
#301:


i never feel like i'm getting better, lol

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HannibalBarca3
07/31/20 12:05:39 AM
#302:


I've felt like I've gotten worse especially not being able to play offline. I used to have some decent wifi results, I think I went 5-2 in a 160+ man tourney, but from that peak on it's been going worse. I like to blame wifi sometimes because of the characters I like but I know that's not the case.

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pojr
07/31/20 12:08:33 AM
#303:


viewmaster_pi posted...
i never feel like i'm getting better, lol
tbh I think you're a really solid player, we don't see you as much as we used to. do you participate in tournaments at all? or do you play for fun?

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viewmaster_pi
07/31/20 12:11:08 AM
#304:


i just play for "fun" here

i appreciate it, btw. and it's been cool seeing how far you've come since you started here

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Simon_Petrikov
07/31/20 12:16:41 AM
#305:


sorry if anybody was still around when my console eventually shut down.

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anttttt
07/31/20 12:26:39 AM
#306:


whenever i play i always look and see what i could do to do better and go into the next few games with the goal of fixing up that one thing
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Simon_Petrikov
07/31/20 12:27:33 AM
#307:


pojr posted...
GGs.

Random question, as a player do you guys ever feel like you're not getting better? Sometimes I feel that way, but tbh I don't lab that often or anything. And I tend to avoid tournaments cause I get too salty at them. Wish I had a better attitude, but those are the cards I've been dealt with.
When you think about your play, what do you think you could or should be doing better? (not saying that I have helpful tips, but maybe someone else does).

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pojr
07/31/20 12:59:09 AM
#308:


Simon_Petrikov posted...
When you think about your play, what do you think you could or should be doing better? (not saying that I have helpful tips, but maybe someone else does).
tbh im not sure. heres a few things:

  • i never jab lock
  • i never bait and punish
  • i definitely have some habits that any skilled player will catch on, i cant even name what they are at the moment
  • i think i spam grab too much. very punishable, and yoshi's grab isnt very good (i don't think anyway).
  • i'm not very good at reading my opponents

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AceAttorneyist
07/31/20 5:59:33 AM
#309:


Well jab locks are just about recognizing both which of your moves can cause a knockdown at which percents and whether your opponent misses their tech. If you know you hit them with a move at a percent when a knockdown could occur, all you have to do is follow them and jab, then jab again after a slight delay, then f smash or down smash after another slight delay. Just go into training mode and see which moves knockdown around 40 to 80 percent or so and practice the timing.

Using Yoshi's grab is probably all about conditioning your opponent to shield. Make them think you'll attack then land and grab instead. It's called a tomahawk

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anttttt
07/31/20 6:04:02 PM
#310:


yoshi's grab game is notoriously bad in every game, maybe to give emphasis to his neutral b
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AceAttorneyist
07/31/20 7:18:44 PM
#311:


Anyone wanna play a bit?

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davyheinz
07/31/20 9:08:38 PM
#312:


Ill play in about an hour

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HannibalBarca3
07/31/20 9:16:11 PM
#313:


I can.

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pojr
07/31/20 9:22:03 PM
#314:


AceAttorneyist posted...
Well jab locks are just about recognizing both which of your moves can cause a knockdown at which percents and whether your opponent misses their tech. If you know you hit them with a move at a percent when a knockdown could occur, all you have to do is follow them and jab, then jab again after a slight delay, then f smash or down smash after another slight delay. Just go into training mode and see which moves knockdown around 40 to 80 percent or so and practice the timing.

Using Yoshi's grab is probably all about conditioning your opponent to shield. Make them think you'll attack then land and grab instead. It's called a tomahawk
Yoshi's down tilt will knock an opponent down at 50% or higher, it seems. Might be a good way to start a jab block.

Tomahawk huh? That's a terminology I've never heard of. I've been thinking about this ever since you've posted it, I can't really imagine a way I can bait an attack. I'm sure there are ways, I just can't seem to think of them because of my inability to read my opponents.

anttttt posted...
yoshi's grab game is notoriously bad in every game, maybe to give emphasis to his neutral b
Cool so it's not just me. Seems like his grab range is not as long as you would expect, and also kind of slow. Kind of interesting considering his tongue is long in the Mario games.

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LostForest
07/31/20 9:27:23 PM
#315:


AceAttorneyist posted...
Anyone wanna play a bit?

I'm up for it!

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AceAttorneyist
07/31/20 9:31:33 PM
#316:


Pojr, watch this, especially starting from 5:15

https://youtu.be/zbel6sAHzDM

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AceAttorneyist
07/31/20 9:40:21 PM
#317:


MCGH5/69

I'll probably only play for about an hour.

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HannibalBarca3
07/31/20 9:43:30 PM
#318:


Omw

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AceAttorneyist
07/31/20 9:44:15 PM
#319:


Izaw seems to only showcase jablocks with one jab in the video. Maybe because you can follow up with forward tilt more easily which leads into up air juggles

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JTilly
07/31/20 9:48:31 PM
#320:


Looks like captain, got some sick buffs. I cant wait to play with you guys again in September

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LostForest
07/31/20 9:49:24 PM
#321:


How do I join? What's the arena code?

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HannibalBarca3
07/31/20 9:50:54 PM
#322:


Hmm the switch is having trouble connecting olnline

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AceAttorneyist
07/31/20 9:52:06 PM
#323:


LostForest posted...
How do I join? What's the arena code?

MCGH5

Pass is 69

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LostForest
07/31/20 9:53:38 PM
#324:


AceAttorneyist posted...
MCGH5

Pass is 69

Thanks mate.

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NightMarishPie
07/31/20 10:00:58 PM
#325:


that was a nice edgeguard

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AceAttorneyist
07/31/20 10:03:39 PM
#326:


NightMarishPie posted...
that was a nice edgeguard

Wall jump knee baby

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LostForest
07/31/20 10:04:41 PM
#327:


Ughh, poorly placed air dodges are the bane of my existence lol.

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NightMarishPie
07/31/20 10:06:12 PM
#328:


nice work though, Lost. if you could, do you mind setting your stage select to random or choosing one of the ultimate competitive stages? duckhunt is a smash 4 comp stage


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AceAttorneyist
07/31/20 10:08:53 PM
#329:


Seems like Doc can up b out of nado with hardly any lag. Tricky combination to whiff punish

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LostForest
07/31/20 10:09:31 PM
#330:


NightMarishPie posted...
nice work though, Lost. if you could, do you mind setting your stage select to random or choosing one of the ultimate competitive stages? duckhunt is a smash 4 comp stage

I have no idea what counts as tourney legal in Ultimate so I'll just select random lol.

Also not to sound like making excuses, I need to adjust to the bit of button lag I was getting. I will be ready next time

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AceAttorneyist
07/31/20 10:12:29 PM
#331:


What the fuck what a comeback

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viewmaster_pi
07/31/20 10:13:19 PM
#332:


that shit's why i complain, defeatist character who gets big rewards for getting slapped around, basically a better lucario aura, just timed

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LostForest
07/31/20 10:13:57 PM
#333:


Yeah that was pretty awesome. I actually walked away to get water cuz I assumed match was over lol.

Also wtf, changing your stage selection takes you out of the queue? Shit haha.

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AceAttorneyist
07/31/20 10:18:00 PM
#334:


LostForest posted...
Yeah that was pretty awesome. I actually walked away to get water cuz I assumed match was over lol.

Also wtf, changing your stage selection takes you out of the queue? Shit haha.

Yeah it really shouldn't, bad design

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NightMarishPie
07/31/20 10:21:44 PM
#335:


GGs going to play with my buddy. trust me, i am on team joker is a bad design but man is he fun to play lol

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LostForest
07/31/20 10:26:10 PM
#336:


Oh my Goddd with not grabbing the ledge lol. Literally killin me here.

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HannibalBarca3
07/31/20 10:27:39 PM
#337:


Man my connection doesn't want to play nice today. Let me try to fix it

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viewmaster_pi
07/31/20 10:31:59 PM
#338:


NightMarishPie posted...
GGs going to play with my buddy. trust me, i am on team joker is a bad design but man is he fun to play lol
the dragdown upair to downsmash on falcon was pretty cool, can't deny it

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LostForest
07/31/20 10:37:34 PM
#339:


Ooh man I can't believe I survived some of those late hits. I love how surprisingly heavy Banjo is.

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AceAttorneyist
07/31/20 10:48:09 PM
#340:


Ggs

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LostForest
07/31/20 10:49:37 PM
#341:


GG

If anyone wants to keep going, I'm free the rest of the night. I could host if no one else wants to.

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anttttt
07/31/20 10:50:25 PM
#342:


sure why not i'm bored i'll do two
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viewmaster_pi
07/31/20 10:50:49 PM
#343:


ggs, i sure hated how i lost that last stock, but i can't say it wasn't good

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davyheinz
07/31/20 10:52:33 PM
#344:


AceAttorneyist posted...
Yeah it really shouldn't, bad design
Almost every menu in this game is bad design. Its actually unbelievable how bad they have made their menus. You hold down buttons now, they arent remotely linear so you dont know if you can push left or down or left-down, and you are trapped into lobbies because matches start again quickly or you end up being kicked out from a nice opponent in random matchmaking for entering/leaving elite smash ranking. Its just abysmal.

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LostForest
07/31/20 10:53:13 PM
#345:


Id 7J178

PW 123

Let's gooooo

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viewmaster_pi
07/31/20 10:54:19 PM
#346:


it really is a mess on all fronts, and i've been saying for a long time that it's time to give sakurai a break and let someone else have a go at directing the next smash

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LostForest
07/31/20 11:01:43 PM
#347:


Ouch lol. Well done. Those frigging sausages haha

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LostForest
07/31/20 11:19:31 PM
#348:


Holy crap your G&W is unbeatable lol. The way you've got everything measured down is like pro level.

G fuckin G lol.

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LostForest
07/31/20 11:35:14 PM
#349:


Arena is still open btw. 7J178 and PW is 123

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davyheinz
07/31/20 11:36:21 PM
#350:


Sorry, Im handling an issue otherwise I would have joined tonight.

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