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Crazyman93
07/31/20 11:14:41 PM
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Irony posted...
Who will Sanders thank when Bill goes to prison for the sex trafficking?
Given the way witnesses are turning up with a strange case of suicide, and in one case assassination attempt, what makes you think that will happen.

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Hop103
07/31/20 11:28:28 PM
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That's why the Democrats lost and will lose in 2020.
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cjsdowg
08/01/20 7:17:38 AM
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Maeiv posted...
Sanders had all the opportunities to win the primary, he just couldn't.

Even if the so called "establishment" did not want Sanders, Sanders could have easily broken through. There are plenty of candidates that broke through that barrier before, Trump being a recent example and Obama.

Obama didn't break thru half the shit that Sanders did. It is okay that you dislike Sander just don't act like he wasn't fighting republicans , Dems , lies on the web, and the media.

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Machete
08/01/20 7:29:50 AM
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I don't give a fuck. I'm sick of hearing about sanders

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cjsdowg
08/01/20 7:30:30 AM
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Machete posted...
I don't give a fuck. I'm sick of hearing about sanders

Then the Clintons need to stop bringing him up.

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Cheater87
08/01/20 7:52:13 AM
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The DNC are happier with Trump than Bernie.

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CarrieChan
08/01/20 4:17:10 PM
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Cheater87 posted...
The DNC are happier with Trump than Bernie.

Yeah, as with Trump at least the economy won't be ruined.
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SevenTenths
08/01/20 4:20:06 PM
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CarrieChan posted...
Yeah, as with Trump at least the economy won't be ruined.
*looks at economy*
*looks at Europe recovery vs us*

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Broseph_Stalin
08/01/20 4:24:22 PM
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Cheater87 posted...
The DNC are happier with Trump than Bernie.

This is some stupid shit bernie bros said because they thought, being as clueless as they are, that Biden was "unelectable" and the DNC must want to lose.

Now Biden is forcing Trump to buy ads in Georgia and Texas and all those bernie bros just have to sit there with egg on their face.
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nfearurspecimn
08/01/20 4:25:14 PM
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SevenTenths posted...
*looks at economy*
*looks at Europe recovery vs us*
but corona! not his fault! it's getting better just be patient!

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iFuzedDaHostage
08/01/20 4:27:03 PM
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>arguing
>with
>broseph
>and
>doom
>art
>in
>literal
>2020
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CruelBuffalo
08/01/20 4:28:03 PM
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All the moron boomers who gulp up CNN and MSNBC are to blame, they actually think they're so different from fox viewers.

hmm calling black people morons. Yikes.
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iFuzedDaHostage
08/01/20 4:30:35 PM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
All the moron boomers who gulp up CNN and MSNBC are to blame, they actually think they're so different from fox viewers.

hmm calling black people morons. Yikes.


youre saying white people dont watch cnn/msnbc?

yikes
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Broseph_Stalin
08/01/20 4:32:20 PM
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Taking bets on how long this Kanjo alt last.
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CruelBuffalo
08/01/20 4:33:24 PM
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iFuzedDaHostage posted...
youre saying white people dont watch cnn/msnbc?

yikes

What was the state and the demographics of Bidens first win
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harley2280
08/01/20 4:33:32 PM
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Cheater87 posted...
The DNC are happier with Trump than Bernie.

No. They're both Russian assets.
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CruelBuffalo
08/01/20 4:34:57 PM
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RedWhiteBlue posted...
I said it before, Jim was the biggest, sole decider. He only stepped in because he saw Bernie would have won. Once the doubt was sewn in, Joe's momentum suddenly sprung and he won left and right, and the media suddenly acted like he was the chosen one, despite Bernie winning constantly beforehand.

When you have most people unsure of who to vote for, and suddenly one man says "Joe Biden" and everyone suddenly knows what to do, it not only shows how dangerous it is that people need to be told who to vote for, it shows we need reform.

But the anti Bernie crowd swarms in and cries left and right about his supporters, and ignores the extreme collaborative effort to take a chance with Trump winning so Bernie loses, because profits over people is the moto of politics. Mainstream repubs and dems are 2 sides of the same coin. Gonna take a long time for another Bernie to appear. But I also want to say thanks to all the young voters that sat at home despite being able to vote, really helped the cause you tweeted about online...

Bernie didnt win constantly. He didnt win Iowa and came neck and neck with Pete in New Hampshire. A state he should be blown everyone away considering he is the senator next door. The only state Bernie did great was Nevada. The revisionist history here....
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CruelBuffalo
08/01/20 4:36:46 PM
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and lets not forget the STUPIDEST conspiracy theories that Pete would want to delay the results of the Iowa primary...a primary he won which ruined his momentum....I swear....this is why I dont like talking politics in this board. People dont think past two steps and lump onto any conspiracy theory if it highlights their favorite candidate that they treat like a pop star rather than a politician.
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iFuzedDaHostage
08/01/20 4:38:33 PM
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imagine shilling for neoliberals who would throw you to the wolves in exchange for oil in a heartbeat

imagine while doing that you generalize an entire race of people and imply they are solely responsible for sanders losing a primary

double yikes
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Broseph_Stalin
08/01/20 4:38:43 PM
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CrimsonRage posted...
if dems win, they're rewarded for pulling this bullshit.

Democracy?
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iFuzedDaHostage
08/01/20 4:40:28 PM
#73:


Broseph_Stalin posted...


Democracy?


forcing other candidates to drop out to focus attention on the nepotistic candidate is not democracy
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CruelBuffalo
08/01/20 4:41:36 PM
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iFuzedDaHostage posted...
imagine shilling for neoliberals who would throw you to the wolves in exchange for oil in a heartbeat

imagine while doing that you generalize an entire race of people and imply they are solely responsible for sanders losing a primary

double yikes

shilling? I voted for Sanders in the primary. And I call out anyone saying problematic things like the low information dog whistles Bernie Bros have been known for. The fact that you are able to gloss over it is very problematic. Do better.
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Paper_Okami
08/01/20 4:41:47 PM
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harley2280 posted...
No. They're both Russian assets.

Bernie is a russian asset?

Why do Russians care more about the welfare of americans than American politicians do, seems pretty weird.
Shut the fuck up weirdo


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CruelBuffalo
08/01/20 4:42:57 PM
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iFuzedDaHostage posted...
forcing other candidates to drop out to focus attention on the nepotistic candidate is not democracy

No one was forced and people voted for their preferred candidate. Stop word vomiting political mad libs from tumblr
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iFuzedDaHostage
08/01/20 4:43:20 PM
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CruelBuffalo posted...


shilling? I voted for Sanders in the primary. And I call out anyone saying problematic things like the low information dog whistles Bernie Bros have been known for. The fact that you are able to gloss over it is very problematic. Do better.


lmao the original party of dog whistles is trying to deflect that onto people who actually give a fuck about the government abusing human and civil rights

l oh fucking l
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Broseph_Stalin
08/01/20 4:43:35 PM
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shut up kanjo
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iFuzedDaHostage
08/01/20 4:45:13 PM
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CruelBuffalo posted...


No one was forced and people voted for their preferred candidate. Stop word vomiting political mad libs from tumblr


if my preferred candidate was pete or kamala how could I vote for them on that bloody tuesday?
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CruelBuffalo
08/01/20 4:46:47 PM
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iFuzedDaHostage posted...
if my preferred candidate was pete or kamala how could I vote for them on that bloody tuesday?

Pete was still on the Ballot and Kamala dropped out in November. Thanks for playing. Maybe Bernie should have done a better job building bridges then just antagonizing and making his game plan to coast through a crowded primary without expanding his base.

And I reiterate, I voted for Sanders and would have preferred him over Biden. Hes still a bad campaigner
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iFuzedDaHostage
08/01/20 4:49:04 PM
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are you insinuating that because bernie was against the establishment that the establishment was justified in rigging the primaries against him? which you were just arguing totally didnt happen?

lmao i knew your true colors would show if i pushed hard enough. you dont give a damn about democracy or the left. at least turn conservative if you want people to better understand where your political compass really lies

i dont believe for one second you voted for sanders. you wouldnt be this so hellbent on defending the DNC and bidens campaign if you did. if sanders was such a bad campaigner, why did it take 90% of the field dropping out before super tuesday II to get biden back in the race?
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CruelBuffalo
08/01/20 4:56:03 PM
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are you insinuating that because bernie was against the establishment that the establishment was justified in rigging the primaries against him? which you were just arguing totally didnt happen?

Justified? What do you mean justified? This isnt some game. These politicians want to run the country in a specific way and think that is what is best. Pete and Amy (two candidates not 90% of the field) dropped out over the weekend because they felt they had no path and they align more with Biden so they went with him.

Bernies team expected a crowded field longer and gambled and lost. Thats basically it. People were still able to vote and Bernie could have convinced people to still vote for him but he failed to do so. Thats it. Period. I point things wrong you ignore and jump to random tangents so this isnt worth it.

And I dont care what you believe. I voted for Sanders I just dont treat politicians like they are my best friend or a high schooler treating them as infallible heroes.
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iFuzedDaHostage
08/01/20 4:58:07 PM
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he says as he treats the DNC as if it was his lunch table and their "democratic" process as some right of passage
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CruelBuffalo
08/01/20 4:58:32 PM
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I clearly need to eat lunch. Im being way too harsh and mean for no reason so I apologize. But I stand by my assertions with Bernies campaigning. He really needed to do better.
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iFuzedDaHostage
08/01/20 5:02:17 PM
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needing to do better =\= the reason why he lost nor =\= justification for how the DNC screwed him over

twice
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nfearurspecimn
08/01/20 5:03:00 PM
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I really wish they hadn't done Bernie in things would be so much more hopeful. Oh well, thems the breaks I guess.

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Paper_Okami
08/01/20 5:04:47 PM
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The Democratic party is fully willingly to enrage the people who should be their base in 20 years, in favor of the people who will be dead in 20.

Which is one of the many reasons they deserves to go the way of the whigs.

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Bestoffuture
08/01/20 5:08:23 PM
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Aww, I was hoping for interesting discussions in this topic. Instead we got people arguing with literal Broseph

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Broseph_Stalin
08/01/20 5:10:41 PM
#89:


tulsi simps and kanjo hating you is the best sign you're in the right
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iFuzedDaHostage
08/01/20 5:11:37 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
tulsi simps and kanjo hating you is the best sign you're in the right


well youre right about one thing but not what you think you are
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Bestoffuture
08/01/20 5:12:06 PM
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Being a boring neolib bootlicker is a sign you're Broseph Stalin.

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NinjaWarrior455
08/01/20 5:15:02 PM
#92:


Paper_Okami posted...
The Democratic party is fully willingly to enrage the people who should be their base in 20 years, in favor of the people who will be dead in 20.

Which is one of the many reasons they deserves to go the way of the whigs.
By that time the current leaders of the Dem party will have formed a coalition with the neocons and start the Red Scare v3

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Smashingpmkns
08/01/20 5:16:45 PM
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NinjaWarrior455 posted...
Paper_Okami posted...
The Democratic party is fully willingly to enrage the people who should be their base in 20 years, in favor of the people who will be dead in 20.

Which is one of the many reasons they deserves to go the way of the whigs.
By that time the current leaders of the Dem party will have formed a coalition with the neocons and start the Red Scare v3

They'll run Track Palin and VP Hunter Biden in 2040.
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iFuzedDaHostage
08/01/20 5:19:24 PM
#94:


NinjaWarrior455 posted...

By that time the current leaders of the Dem party will have formed a coalition with the neocons and start the Red Scare v3


lets be really real

by that time the EU will be the new western superpower and the US will go the way of the roman empire
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Damn_Underscore
08/01/20 8:11:43 PM
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First of all the Democratic Party (and the Republican Party as well, but it's more complicated for them givent the last 25 years or so) is naturally going to be very progressive relative to today's Democratic Party.

But the party base in 20 years is not going to be Bernie supporters (or more accurately, Bernie bros). Bernie bros obviously aren't even that large in number to begin with.

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harley2280
08/02/20 1:17:42 AM
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Paper_Okami posted...
harley2280 posted...
No. They're both Russian assets.

Bernie is a russian asset?

Why do Russians care more about the welfare of americans than American politicians do, seems pretty weird.
Shut the fuck up weirdo


They don't. Which is why they were helping Sanders. He's literally Donald trump except playing for the blue team instead of the red.

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/new-evidence-shows-how-russias-election-interference-has-gotten-more
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Extreme_light
08/02/20 1:27:33 AM
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Poop2 posted...
50 years from now we will wonder who is worse: the clintons or the trumps?

You would question the rule of Dragon President Barron Trump? You are mad!

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Solid Snake07
08/02/20 1:34:45 AM
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It's funny that people are surprised by this to me. Bernie was basically the liberal trump. He isn't really a Democrat but sought their nomination for high office on a populist platform, and people are shocked that the party actively shut that shit down?

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iFuzedDaHostage
08/02/20 2:16:11 AM
#99:


Solid Snake07 posted...
It's funny that people are surprised by this to me. Bernie was basically the liberal trump. He isn't really a Democrat but sought their nomination for high office on a populist platform, and people are shocked that the party actively shut that shit down?


"nuh uh democracy!!"
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GentlemanGamer
08/02/20 2:19:40 AM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
It's funny that people are surprised by this to me. Bernie was basically the liberal trump. He isn't really a Democrat but sought their nomination for high office on a populist platform, and people are shocked that the party actively shut that shit down?

The shocking thing is that he admitted it out loud, not that it happened in the first place. Generally, people in the establishment of the Democratic party have denied that they actively worked against Sanders.
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