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Foxygen
08/05/20 1:51:37 PM
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And i dont buy its COVID-19s fault. Fact is, Nintendo have dropped the ball scheduling out the year.

and now Im expected to pay full price for a 7 year old WiiU game. Its bullcrap.
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Darkrobotisback
08/05/20 1:52:31 PM
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Super Smash Brothers is all I play anyways!

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cloudrivera
08/05/20 1:52:34 PM
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Then just get another system

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DeadBankerDream
08/05/20 1:52:44 PM
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Foxygen posted...
and now Im expected to pay full price for a 7 year old WiiU game. Its bullcrap.

Que?
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Foxygen
08/05/20 1:54:13 PM
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DeadBankerDream posted...


Que?


Pikmin 3
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BakonBitz
08/05/20 1:54:41 PM
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DeadBankerDream posted...


Que?

Pikmin 3 Deluxe just got announced.

But yeah, if you only have a Switch it kinda sucks if you've already played the third-party ports. I still think Switch, PS4, and a capable PC is the best combo if you can afford it. You can skip the PC if not, if the Xbox exclusives don't appeal to you.
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TheCodeisBosco
08/05/20 2:05:16 PM
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I've come to terms with the fact that my Switch purchase was for the god-tier 2017 lineup and the rare bonus (like Luigi's Mansion 3) once in a blue moon, and that's it. I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed.

The thing with Nintendo is, there's a huge difference between "Nintendo when they have something to prove" and "Nintendo when they're comfortable". When it's the former, you get Super Mario Odyssey and Breath of the Wild. When it's the latter, you get scraps.

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Coloradough
08/06/20 3:41:52 PM
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Yeah I tried Luigis Mansion 3 and Paper Mario and they were both pretty meh

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Kaldrenthebold
08/06/20 3:52:33 PM
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As a Wii U owner the Switch is a pretty big disappointment. I get that I'm one of 6 whole people that own a Wii U, but the Switch is really just coasting by one a few big exclusives and just a ton of Wii U ports. I am enjoying, however, the amount of cooperative games I can play with my wife like Let's Go Pikachu! and 51 Clubhouse Games.

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TheGoldenEel
08/06/20 4:04:42 PM
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Conflict posted...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_Nintendo_Switch_video_games

Of the top 35 best selling games, the only Wii U ports are

MK8 Deluxe

Breath of the Wild (if you want to count that)

NSMB U Deluxe

DKC Tropical Freeze

Pokken Tournament DX

Other ports and remakes:

Link's Awakening

Xenoblade

Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Rescue Team DX

Minecraft

Try a new narrative.
30% of the best selling games being ports is a defense to you?

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DarkRoast
08/06/20 4:05:32 PM
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Paper Mario Origami King is amazing and I'm convinced anyone saying otherwise hasn't actually played it

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Veggeta X
08/06/20 4:05:35 PM
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As a Switch Only gamer

LMAO

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TheGoldenEel
08/06/20 4:06:42 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
Paper Mario Origami King is amazing and I'm convinced anyone saying otherwise hasn't actually played it
tbh YMMV depending on how much blatantly awful design choices in the battle system hurt the experience to you

game overcame that annoyance for me but I could see where it wouldnt for others

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VandorLee
08/06/20 4:08:35 PM
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I dont know of anyone thats a switch only gamer. Everyone i know who has a switch has it and another console or pc.

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Questionmarktarius
08/06/20 4:09:18 PM
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Meanwhile, at Limited Run Games...
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MabusIncarnate
08/06/20 4:10:43 PM
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I've had my Switch since Christmas, and besides putting a ton of time into Sword and Animal Crossing, it's been a disappointment. I only played Pokemon so much for online raids with younger family members. I was extremely amped up to play Breath of the Wild and it didn't blow me away like I anticipated. I was also expecting a lot of older Castlevania and Metroid games from the DS that I never got to play to be on there for purchase and they weren't. No Gamecube ports, a lot of games I thought i'd be able to buy aren't offered. It's disappointing.

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PokemonExpert44
08/06/20 4:12:29 PM
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MabusIncarnate posted...
I've had my Switch since Christmas, and besides putting a ton of time into Sword and Animal Crossing, it's been a disappointment. I only played Pokemon so much for online raids with younger family members. I was extremely amped up to play Breath of the Wild and it didn't blow me away like I anticipated. I was also expecting a lot of older Castlevania and Metroid games from the DS that I never got to play to be on there for purchase and they weren't. No Gamecube ports, a lot of games I thought i'd be able to buy aren't offered. It's disappointing.
Lolololol

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ultimate reaver
08/06/20 4:13:01 PM
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i cant believe there are people with only switches

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Kaldrenthebold
08/06/20 4:13:53 PM
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Conflict posted...
"A few big exclusives and a ton of Wii U ports" when the vast majority of those games are not in fact, Wii U ports sounds like a defense to me, yeah.

So what about the ones that DIDN'T sell well, do those not count as Wii U ports? You act like Nintendo has not flagrantly been extending the library of the Switch by throwing out Wii U ports to sweeten the deal. And as a Wii U owner, why would I care about that, and NOT feel like this thing isn't getting as much new love as it should? Nintendo combined their handheld and console groups and this is the output they can come up with? Yeah okay.

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Kaldrenthebold
08/06/20 4:14:22 PM
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Conflict posted...
I wasn't aware anyone said that. Whoever said that, raise your hand

You said "it was coasting by a few exclusives and a ton of Wii U ports". That list was proof of the exact opposite.

Chill I deleted the post because I realized I was wrong dude, stop getting so upset.

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Stewman_Magoo
08/06/20 4:15:10 PM
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This always seems to be the case with Nintendo; 3 or 4 solid games, 7 or so polarizing ones, then delays and garbage until their next console drops.

I really wish Nintendo would just go third party.

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TheGoldenEel
08/06/20 4:16:51 PM
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Conflict posted...
Wii U ports not on that list

Bayonetta 1&2

Hyrule Warriors

Lego City Undercover

Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE

Wow. That's a ton of Wii U ports missing!
Also Captain Toad is on the list and you missed that one originally

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TheGoldenEel
08/06/20 4:17:34 PM
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Now do Wii U ports as a percentage of actual major games Nintendo has published this gen

(its not good)

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Kaldrenthebold
08/06/20 4:18:15 PM
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Conflict posted...
Wii U ports not on that list

Bayonetta 1&2

Hyrule Warriors

Lego City Undercover

Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE

Wow. That's a ton of Wii U ports missing!

I really don't get what your point is. Do you think Mario Tennis Aces isn't just an expanded version of Mario Power Smash on the Wii U? Or that Mario Maker 2 doesn't feel like a glorified Wii U expansion pack sold for $60? Same with Splatoon 2?

I'm not asking you to try to change my opinion or my "narrative", I am literally just giving you my exact experience. I own a lot of those top 35 games, but as a Wii U owner, there's a lot here that I just don't care about because I have very similar experiences, if not outright the same game.

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Kaldrenthebold
08/06/20 4:18:33 PM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
Now do Wii U ports as a percentage of actual major games Nintendo has published this gen

(its not good)

And yes, how about this dude. This is the point I'm at least trying to make.

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DarkRoast
08/06/20 4:18:36 PM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
tbh YMMV depending on how much blatantly awful design choices in the battle system hurt the experience to you

game overcame that annoyance for me but I could see where it wouldnt for others

I thought the battle system was fine. Not great, not bad enough to ruin the great writing, phenomenal soundtrack and truly wonderful art.


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TheGoldenEel
08/06/20 4:28:00 PM
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Conflict posted...
There's only 3 games on that best-selling list that weren't published by Nintendo. And I don't know what you consider a 'major game' but it doesn't sound like Captain Toad would fit that description.
I think it would, Im thinking more of shit like sushi striker, snipperclips, jump rope challenge that theyve published recently

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The_Scarecrow
08/06/20 4:29:16 PM
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Kaldrenthebold posted...
As a Wii U owner the Switch is a pretty big disappointment. I get that I'm one of 6 whole people that own a Wii U, but the Switch is really just coasting by one a few big exclusives and just a ton of Wii U ports. I am enjoying, however, the amount of cooperative games I can play with my wife like Let's Go Pikachu! and 51 Clubhouse Games.

I wouldn't say the Switch is coasting off of that what you mentioned but you are correct in the sense that the Switch is feels like a middle finger to Wii U owners. With the best Wii U games being available on the Switch, there's no reason to own the console unless you decide to mod it.

I don't think anyone can deny it's been a petty lousy year for the Switch unless you're an Animal Crossing fan. The virus isn't an excuse anymore especially when the president of Nintendo came out and said games slated for this year would still be on schedule. Yet, as far as we know, there's fuck all from now until the end of October with the next major release being another full priced port. Compare that to this time last year where we had Astral Chain, Dragon Quest XI S, Daemon x Machina, Link's Awakening, Ring Fit Adventure, and Luigi's Mansion 3 to look forward to.

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Conception616
08/06/20 4:34:26 PM
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Kaldrenthebold posted...
Or that Mario Maker 2 doesn't feel like a glorified Wii U expansion pack sold for $60? Same with Splatoon 2?


No, neither feels like an expansion pack, especially not Mario Maker 2. If anything, Mario Maker 1 was a tech demo compared to 2.

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philsov
08/06/20 4:34:56 PM
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There's enough steam/PC ports available for the switch that you'll be fine
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Lordgold666
08/06/20 4:35:03 PM
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Lol @ only playing one console

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TheGoldenEel
08/06/20 4:41:00 PM
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Heres what I would consider Nintendos major releases for switch, bolded are ports

1-2-Switch
Animal Crossing: New Horizons
Arms
Astral Chain
Bayonetta 1&2
Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker
Daemon X Machina
Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze
Fire Emblem: Three Houses
Fire Emblem Warriors
Hyrule Warriors
Kirby Star Allies
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening
Luigi's Mansion 3
Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games Tokyo 2020
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
Mario Tennis Aces
Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3: The Black Order
New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe
Paper Mario: The Origami King
Pokemon Lets Go Eevee & Pikachu
Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Rescue Team DX
Pokemon Sword and Shield
Pokken Tournament DX
Ring Fit Adventure
Splatoon 2
Super Mario Maker 2
Super Mario Odyssey
Super Mario Party
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
Tokyo Mirage Sessions FE
Xenoblade Chronicles: Definitive Edition
Xenoblade Chronicles 2
Yoshi's Crafted World

a third of the games are ports, and an even further percentage of them are junk party game rehashes like Mario Tennis Aces and 1-2-Switch etc

this is not a strong lineup from Nintendo and thats disappointing imo

put another way, there are less than 20 arguably high quality games on this list (and thats including games that arent great like Lets Go Pokemon and Daemon X Machina) after 3.5 years of release. Considering that Nintendo has now consolidated handhelds and consoles together thats abysmal imo

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The_Scarecrow
08/06/20 4:41:25 PM
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Conflict posted...
Well it's a somewhat necessary middle finger in the sense that the userbase for Switch is significantly larger than Wii U's and thus many of those games get way more exposure.

I don't disagree. From a business standpoint, all of Nintendo's decisions regarding Wii U ports are reasonable. However, I do understand why the people who supported the Wii U would feel frustration.

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Shadowplay
08/06/20 4:43:19 PM
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BakonBitz posted...
Pikmin 3 Deluxe just got announced.

But yeah, if you only have a Switch it kinda sucks if you've already played the third-party ports. I still think Switch, PS4, and a capable PC is the best combo if you can afford it. You can skip the PC if not, if the Xbox exclusives don't appeal to you.
More like you can skip the PS4 since there are more benefits to having a gaming PC.

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TheGoldenEel
08/06/20 4:54:29 PM
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Conflict posted...
How many high quality games do you really expect in 3 years that are first-party

Cause I can say with confidence PS4 sure didn't have that many at its 3 year mark
sony gets the big name third party games and switch generally doesnt

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Conception616
08/06/20 5:11:20 PM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
sony gets the big name third party games and switch generally doesnt

Nintendos 1st party crushes Sony and MS, so Im fine.


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EmbraceOfDeath
08/06/20 5:12:01 PM
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I'd be extremely bored this year with any single system. There's a lot of casual garbage in the "big" games this year (Animal Crossing, TLoU2). I've ended up playing pretty even amounts of PS4, Switch, and PC this year.

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TheGoldenEel
08/06/20 5:16:56 PM
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Conception616 posted...
Nintendos 1st party crushes Sony and MS, so Im fine.
Looking at that list, no, it really doesnt

lets trim it down to actually good, original games

Animal Crossing (I dont agree but Ill include it)
Astral Chain
Fire Emblem: Three Houses
Kirby Star Allies
Luigi's Mansion 3
Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3: The Black Order (being generous here)
Paper Mario: The Origami King
Ring Fit Adventure
Splatoon 2
Super Mario Maker 2
Super Mario Odyssey
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
Xenoblade Chronicles 2
Yoshi's Crafted World

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