Poll of the Day > Transgender WOMAN shows off TRANSFORMATION! Are they better as MALE or FEMALE???

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Aculo 08/15/20 12:17:20 AM #52:	wwinterj25 posted... I'll say this one last time so you understand. I'm saying trans folk want to be happy with whatever sex or gender they feel they are and don't really care what you consider to be manly or not. It's not hard to grasp here. On a side note: What do you actually think a man should look like? Also what is considered feminine exactly to you? You seem well versed in these things so I'm curious. I'm extremely well versed in both, ok? --- ok? <cite>Aculo posted [p:943400510] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>wwinterj25 posted... </cite> <quote>I'll say this one last time so you understand. I'm saying trans folk want to be happy with whatever sex or gender they feel they are and don't really care what you consider to be manly or not. It's not hard to grasp here. On a side note: What do you actually think a man should look like? Also what is considered feminine exactly to you? You seem well versed in these things so I'm curious.</quote>I'm extremely well versed in both, ok? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 08/15/20 12:19:03 AM #53:	Aculo posted... I'm extremely well versed in both, ok? Yeah but Muscles deserves a voice, ok? --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/YvP6isz <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:943400563] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>Aculo posted... </cite> <quote>I'm extremely well versed in both, ok?</quote>Yeah but Muscles deserves a voice, ok? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bulbinking 08/15/20 1:36:08 AM #54:	A man can have boobs and woman have a penis, OK? Just because a person gets implants doesnt make them less of a man and woman get a pump up skin tube doesnt mean they no longer get to be a woman. --- Qc_Stryder 5/21/2015 6:58:09 AM posted... Mods- Protectors of feelings 3DS 5370-0410-4945 <cite>bulbinking posted [p:943402386] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>A man can have boobs and woman have a penis, OK? Just because a person gets implants doesnt make them less of a man and woman get a pump up skin tube doesnt mean they no longer get to be a woman. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muscles 08/15/20 1:45:32 AM #55:	wwinterj25 posted... I'll say this one last time so you understand. I'm saying trans folk want to be happy with whatever sex or gender they feel they are and don't really care what you consider to be manly or not. It's not hard to grasp here. On a side note: What do you actually think a man should look like? Also what is considered feminine exactly to you? You seem well versed in these things so I'm curious. I mean, I am completely fine in the body I was born in and I still wish I looked different, so I just imagine that some people that want to look the the other gender would also have some issues with themselves, especially if they can't get to their ideal look and have to settle for half way there, that's not to say that it is all or even most of them. Not sure why thats so outrageous to say, I'm not saying they're bad or should feel bad for not being convincing. As for the 2md point, there is a lot of different things that are manly, such as wide shoulders, chiseled jaws, etc. but even then you could have 1 or 2 manly traits and still be feminine. I'm not sure why it's so crazy to say this lady still looks like a dude --- Muscles Chicago Bears \| Chicago Blackhawks \| Chicago Bulls \| Chicago Cubs \| NIU Huskies <cite>Muscles posted [p:943402564] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>wwinterj25 posted... </cite> <quote>I'll say this one last time so you understand. I'm saying trans folk want to be happy with whatever sex or gender they feel they are and don't really care what you consider to be manly or not. It's not hard to grasp here. On a side note: What do you actually think a man should look like? Also what is considered feminine exactly to you? You seem well versed in these things so I'm curious.</quote>I mean, I am completely fine in the body I was born in and I still wish I looked different, so I just imagine that some people that want to look the the other gender would also have some issues with themselves, especially if they can't get to their ideal look and have to settle for half way there, that's not to say that it is all or even most of them. Not sure why thats so outrageous to say, I'm not saying they're bad or should feel bad for not being convincing. As for the 2md point, there is a lot of different things that are manly, such as wide shoulders, chiseled jaws, etc. but even then you could have 1 or 2 manly traits and still be feminine. I'm not sure why it's so crazy to say this lady still looks like a dude </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YoukaiSlayer 08/15/20 2:34:14 AM #56:	wwinterj25 posted... It's more about folk been happy with themselves. It's a mental state of mind. This is true for folk who just have plastic surgery too. It's best to not care too much what others think. I feel more folk would be more happy that way. I don't think this is how it usually is though. They might be more happy if they didn't care about how others perceived them, but I don't think thats the case for nearly anyone, trans or otherwise. FEELING like something also has to do with how other peoples see you. If you feel like you are a woman on the inside, and you try to look like a women, but you know it's not very convincing to other people, and that a lot of people still see you as a man, thats going to have severe negative psychological impact and it's probably going to really hurt your sense of identity. As much as it'd be great, people can't avoid caring about what other people think, and I believe perception is a key motivation to getting any kind of plastic surgery. I hope for their sakes the medical and surgical side of things get better, so you really can't tell the difference. --- I'm ninja (you can't see me) <cite>YoukaiSlayer posted [p:943403497] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>wwinterj25 posted... </cite> <quote>It's more about folk been happy with themselves. It's a mental state of mind. This is true for folk who just have plastic surgery too. It's best to not care too much what others think. I feel more folk would be more happy that way.</quote>I don't think this is how it usually is though. They might be more happy if they didn't care about how others perceived them, but I don't think thats the case for nearly anyone, trans or otherwise. FEELING like something also has to do with how other peoples see you. If you feel like you are a woman on the inside, and you try to look like a women, but you know it's not very convincing to other people, and that a lot of people still see you as a man, thats going to have severe negative psychological impact and it's probably going to really hurt your sense of identity. As much as it'd be great, people can't avoid caring about what other people think, and I believe perception is a key motivation to getting any kind of plastic surgery. I hope for their sakes the medical and surgical side of things get better, so you really can't tell the difference. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrndNhbrHdCEman 08/15/20 2:46:59 AM #57:	Good for her. What we think doesnt matter as much as her happiness with the results. Asking this is something you should be ashamed of duckbear. --- Official nosy neighbor and gossip https://imgur.com/uGKwGsK <cite>FrndNhbrHdCEman posted [p:943403722] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>Good for her. What we think doesnt matter as much as her happiness with the results. Asking this is something you should be ashamed of duckbear. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 08/15/20 10:21:05 AM #58:	Muscles posted... I mean, I am completely fine in the body I was born in and I still wish I looked different, so I just imagine that some people that want to look the the other gender would also have some issues with themselves, especially if they can't get to their ideal look and have to settle for half way there, that's not to say that it is all or even most of them. Not sure why thats so outrageous to say, I'm not saying they're bad or should feel bad for not being convincing. Well yeah everyone has insecurities. This is still a personal problem though rather than a social one in most cases. Don't get me wrong some folk can be vain but this isn't limited to one demographic. I'm not sure why it's so crazy to say this lady still looks like a dude It's not. I've said the same thing myself. I however don't see that as a issue. YoukaiSlayer posted... I don't think this is how it usually is though. They might be more happy if they didn't care about how others perceived them, but I don't think thats the case for nearly anyone, trans or otherwise. That's my point. We are all just people. FEELING like something also has to do with how other peoples see you. If you feel like you are a woman on the inside, and you try to look like a women, but you know it's not very convincing to other people, and that a lot of people still see you as a man, thats going to have severe negative psychological impact and it's probably going to really hurt your sense of identity. Feeling like something to me doesn't have anything todo with other people for the most part. It might very well have a effect on a trans persons mental state more if they don't get the look they want. All I can say is I'm more happy and more confident now than I ever was because I stopped caring for the most part what others think and became more comfortable with myself. I think this would work for most people including trans folk. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/YvP6isz <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:943410419] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>Muscles posted... </cite> <quote>I mean, I am completely fine in the body I was born in and I still wish I looked different, so I just imagine that some people that want to look the the other gender would also have some issues with themselves, especially if they can't get to their ideal look and have to settle for half way there, that's not to say that it is all or even most of them. Not sure why thats so outrageous to say, I'm not saying they're bad or should feel bad for not being convincing.</quote> Well yeah everyone has insecurities. This is still a personal problem though rather than a social one in most cases. Don't get me wrong some folk can be vain but this isn't limited to one demographic. <quote>I'm not sure why it's so crazy to say this lady still looks like a dude</quote> It's not. I've said the same thing myself. I however don't see that as a issue. YoukaiSlayer posted... </cite> <quote>I don't think this is how it usually is though. They might be more happy if they didn't care about how others perceived them, but I don't think thats the case for nearly anyone, trans or otherwise.</quote> That's my point. We are all just people. <quote>FEELING like something also has to do with how other peoples see you. If you feel like you are a woman on the inside, and you try to look like a women, but you know it's not very convincing to other people, and that a lot of people still see you as a man, thats going to have severe negative psychological impact and it's probably going to really hurt your sense of identity.</quote> Feeling like something to me doesn't have anything todo with other people for the most part. It might very well have a effect on a trans persons mental state more if they don't get the look they want. All I can say is I'm more happy and more confident now than I ever was because I stopped caring for the most part what others think and became more comfortable with myself. I think this would work for most people including trans folk. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_tall_midget 08/15/20 10:46:52 AM #59:	Did anyone else notice that society seems VERY eager to turn men into women and not the opposite? I mean, I only ever hear about women going trans and never the other way around. --- DRUUUMMMPPPFFF!!! <cite>The_tall_midget posted [p:943411045] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>Did anyone else notice that society seems VERY eager to turn men into women and not the opposite? I mean, I only ever hear about women going trans and never the other way around. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 08/15/20 10:49:55 AM #60:	I know one bloke who is trans. He was born female and was always a tomboy. I actually was their "bf" once. We were only young so nothing noteworthy. I found out some years ago now they are fully trans. Can't say it's that surprising. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/YvP6isz <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:943411115] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>I know one bloke who is trans. He was born female and was always a tomboy. I actually was their "bf" once. We were only young so nothing noteworthy. I found out some years ago now they are fully trans. Can't say it's that surprising. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 08/15/20 3:54:02 PM #61:	wwinterj25 posted... I know one bloke who is trans. He was born female and was always a tomboy. I actually was their "bf" once. We were only young so nothing noteworthy. I found out some years ago now they are fully trans. Can't say it's that surprising. Tomboys have a high chance at being trans? --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:943420654] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote>I know one bloke who is trans. He was born female and was always a tomboy. I actually was their "bf" once. We were only young so nothing noteworthy. I found out some years ago now they are fully trans. Can't say it's that surprising. </quote> Tomboys have a high chance at being trans?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Joker_X_II 08/15/20 4:16:41 PM #62:	If there was any (MTF) Trans-sexual that can fool me, they deserve the reach around. >5 o'clock shadow isn't fooling anyone. --- PSA: "Real Gamers" don't pay for Micro-transactions. Pro-tip: You're not 'playing' the game, if you're paying your way through it. <cite>Joker_X_II posted [p:943421508] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>If there was any (MTF) Trans-sexual that can fool me, they deserve the reach around. >5 o'clock shadow isn't fooling anyone. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 08/15/20 4:29:30 PM #63:	Muscles posted... They know they don't look like what they want though, if you're already feminine looking and can actually look like a girl then it's different, that's not to say I would judge them as a person based on that, as long as they aren't hurting anyone I really don't care what people do and won't judge them, I might find some stuff weird but more power to ya if that's what you want We live in the real world, everybody judges everybody for everything. If passing didn't matter then the physical form wouldn't matter at all and the surgery would be redundant. In the end they'll either be upset without surgery for not being called their preferred gender without any cues and they'll be upset with surgery as they'll see by people's faces that they can see something has been done. It's a no-win game in the same way people with depression don't just get happy because their circumstances improve and bipolar people don't get to be calm just because the cirmstances are stable. Trying to not get judgement or have people take on their opinions earnestly is just wishful thinking and trying to force it is just another source of malice in the world. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:943421977] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>Muscles posted...</cite> <quote> They know they don't look like what they want though, if you're already feminine looking and can actually look like a girl then it's different, that's not to say I would judge them as a person based on that, as long as they aren't hurting anyone I really don't care what people do and won't judge them, I might find some stuff weird but more power to ya if that's what you want </quote> We live in the real world, everybody judges everybody for everything. If passing didn't matter then the physical form wouldn't matter at all and the surgery would be redundant. In the end they'll either be upset without surgery for not being called their preferred gender without any cues and they'll be upset with surgery as they'll see by people's faces that they can see something has been done. It's a no-win game in the same way people with depression don't just get happy because their circumstances improve and bipolar people don't get to be calm just because the cirmstances are stable. Trying to not get judgement or have people take on their opinions earnestly is just wishful thinking and trying to force it is just another source of malice in the world.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 08/15/20 4:43:25 PM #64:	Revelation34 posted... Tomboys have a high chance at being trans? I don't know but as tomboys are gals that act like boys I'd assume so. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/YvP6isz <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:943422424] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted... </cite> <quote>Tomboys have a high chance at being trans?</quote>I don't know but as tomboys are gals that act like boys I'd assume so. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aculo 08/15/20 4:53:41 PM #65:	Muscles posted... I am completely fine in the body I was born in Every photo I've ever seen of you screams otherwise, ok? --- ok? <cite>Aculo posted [p:943422796] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>Muscles posted... </cite> <quote>I am completely fine in the body I was born in</quote>Every photo I've ever seen of you screams otherwise, ok? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 08/15/20 8:30:46 PM #66:	Aculo posted... Every photo I've ever seen of you screams otherwise, ok? Oh? --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/YvP6isz <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:943429674] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>Aculo posted... </cite> <quote>Every photo I've ever seen of you screams otherwise, ok?</quote>Oh? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrndNhbrHdCEman 08/17/20 3:53:45 PM #67:	Aculo posted... Every photo I've ever seen of you screams otherwise, ok? Hes if if the posters that should be more supportive of the trans community. Denial isnt just a river in Egypt. --- Official nosy neighbor and gossip https://imgur.com/uGKwGsK <cite>FrndNhbrHdCEman posted [p:943495817] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>Aculo posted... </cite> <quote>Every photo I've ever seen of you screams otherwise, ok?</quote>Hes if if the posters that should be more supportive of the trans community. Denial isnt just a river in Egypt. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muscles 08/17/20 4:37:54 PM #68:	FrndNhbrHdCEman posted... Hes if if the posters that should be more supportive of the trans community. Denial isnt just a river in Egypt. What makes you think I'm not? I have never judged a trans person for their transition and have spoken out against people that have --- Muscles Chicago Bears \| Chicago Blackhawks \| Chicago Bulls \| Chicago Cubs \| NIU Huskies <cite>Muscles posted [p:943497568] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>FrndNhbrHdCEman posted... </cite> <quote>Hes if if the posters that should be more supportive of the trans community. Denial isnt just a river in Egypt.</quote>What makes you think I'm not? I have never judged a trans person for their transition and have spoken out against people that have </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosAzeroth 08/17/20 4:48:43 PM #69:	The_tall_midget posted... Did anyone else notice that society seems VERY eager to turn men into women and not the opposite? I mean, I only ever hear about women going trans and never the other way around. Waves Hello, it is I, the unicorn apparently. <cite>ChaosAzeroth posted [p:943498003] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>The_tall_midget posted... </cite> <quote>Did anyone else notice that society seems VERY eager to turn men into women and not the opposite? I mean, I only ever hear about women going trans and never the other way around.</quote> Waves Hello, it is I, the unicorn apparently. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrndNhbrHdCEman 08/18/20 4:19:14 AM #70:	Muscles posted... What makes you think I'm not? I have never judged a trans person for their transition and have spoken out against people that have Oh ya? Who ya gonna vote for? --- Official nosy neighbor and gossip https://imgur.com/uGKwGsK <cite>FrndNhbrHdCEman posted [p:943519673] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>Muscles posted... </cite> <quote>What makes you think I'm not? I have never judged a trans person for their transition and have spoken out against people that have</quote>Oh ya? Who ya gonna vote for? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 08/18/20 1:12:21 PM #71:	Muscles posted... What makes you think I'm not? I have never judged a trans person for their transition and have spoken out against people that have You're very progressive as your posts in this topic have proved. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/YvP6isz <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:943531351] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>Muscles posted... </cite> <quote>What makes you think I'm not? I have never judged a trans person for their transition and have spoken out against people that have</quote>You're very progressive as your posts in this topic have proved. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrndNhbrHdCEman 08/20/20 7:29:17 PM #72:	No reply @Muscles ? --- Official nosy neighbor and gossip https://imgur.com/uGKwGsK <cite>FrndNhbrHdCEman posted [p:943626440] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>No reply @Muscles ? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muscles 08/20/20 10:32:50 PM #73:	FrndNhbrHdCEman posted... Oh ya? Who ya gonna vote for? Jo Jorgensen, were you expecting me to say one of the old white racist dudes running? --- Muscles Chicago Bears \| Chicago Blackhawks \| Chicago Bulls \| Chicago Cubs \| NIU Huskies <cite>Muscles posted [p:943632957] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>FrndNhbrHdCEman posted... </cite> <quote>Oh ya? Who ya gonna vote for?</quote>Jo Jorgensen, were you expecting me to say one of the old white racist dudes running? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrndNhbrHdCEman 08/21/20 2:21:21 AM #74:	Muscles posted... Jo Jorgensen, were you expecting me to say one of the old white racist dudes running? No. I was expecting you to lie like ya just did lol. Ya voted for him once. Last I saw you defended him a month back. --- Official nosy neighbor and gossip https://imgur.com/uGKwGsK <cite>FrndNhbrHdCEman posted [p:943638624] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>Muscles posted... </cite> <quote>Jo Jorgensen, were you expecting me to say one of the old white racist dudes running?</quote>No. I was expecting you to lie like ya just did lol. Ya voted for him once. Last I saw you defended him a month back. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ClarkDuke 08/23/20 6:35:32 PM #75:	Muscles posted... Jo Jorgensen, were you expecting me to say one of the old white racist dudes running? sweet, simple muscles, no one believes you, ok? --- https://imgur.com/qL0DHFI https://imgur.com/JL9rRLt https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ <cite>ClarkDuke posted [p:943735554] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>Muscles posted... </cite> <quote>Jo Jorgensen, were you expecting me to say one of the old white racist dudes running?</quote>sweet, simple muscles, no one believes you, ok? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Poll of the Day > Transgender WOMAN shows off TRANSFORMATION! Are they better as MALE or FEMALE??? (+) Yeah! (+)

Poll of the Day > Transgender WOMAN shows off TRANSFORMATION! Are they better as MALE or FEMALE???