Current Events > BLM protesters demand that white people give up their homes to them

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spanky1
08/14/20 4:29:45 PM
#101:


I can totally understand that gentrification can be a really bad thing for a lot of poor people and it sucks, but I feel like these BLM making these demands is morally no different than a racist old white uncle saying things like "the blacks should back to Africa."

I mean, the people live there now, like or not. You can't just undo that. It's what the place is now.
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CyricZ
08/14/20 4:32:06 PM
#102:


spanky1 posted...
I mean, the people live there now, like or not. You can't just undo that. It's what the place is now.
I think the point is that it was already done before, so... why can't you undo that?

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Emir_Parkreiner
08/14/20 4:38:36 PM
#103:


Possessions are racist.

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Houston
08/14/20 4:38:37 PM
#104:


CyricZ posted...
I think the point is that it was already done before, so... why can't you undo that?

How are you going to undo that?

I don't think people were literally taken from their homes to begin with. The area just becomes more expensive and lower income residents can't afford the area or their kids can't afford to get a house there now.

So to undo it... you're going to... what?

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KevinDunn
08/14/20 4:39:33 PM
#105:


Seattle is such a liberal shithole. Im so glad I dont live there.
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DemonBuffet
08/14/20 4:40:31 PM
#106:


Houston posted...
How are you going to undo that?

I don't think people were literally taken from their homes to begin with. The area just becomes more expensive and lower income residents can't afford the area or their kids can't afford to get a house there now.

So to undo it... you're going to... what?

Simple. Go into the neighborhood with an angry mob and intimidate and bully all the residents.

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VandorLee
08/14/20 4:42:19 PM
#107:


Everything everyone says is in the worst context. #2020

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Prestoff
08/14/20 4:42:32 PM
#108:


What the hell?

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Guide
08/14/20 4:44:08 PM
#109:


And I was just reading that topic about awful optics lmao

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tm315
08/14/20 4:47:08 PM
#110:


Lots of racists itt having problems with blm addressing gentrification
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masticatingman
08/14/20 4:50:28 PM
#111:


Gonna take a wild guess here and assume that these protesters would also want the people who willingly give up their homes to continue paying the mortgages, utilities, and property taxes on said homes, correct? This is just bullying and extortion point blank.

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DemonBuffet
08/14/20 4:55:37 PM
#112:


tm315 posted...
Lots of racists itt having problems with blm addressing gentrification

Personally, I have a problem with blm protesters bullying local residents by trying to take cash or actuall real estate.
Is that not a problem?

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nemu
08/14/20 4:58:23 PM
#113:


Regardless of whatever context the protest stems from, phrasing things in stupid ways or expecting impossible things makes the movement looks stupid. The movement not clarifying things or even doubling down on the stupid makes the movement look stupid. This doesn't seem to be the case of the article taking anything out of context, so it's just a whole pile of stupid.
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MrPeppers
08/14/20 4:59:23 PM
#114:


CyricZ posted...
Apparently it's a gentrified neighborhood that used to be predominantly black. That's the context.

I think this is one of those scenarios where knowing the context is negligible.

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Blue_Dream87
08/14/20 4:59:24 PM
#115:


DemonBuffet posted...
Personally, I have a problem with blm protesters bullying local residents by trying to take cash or actuall real estate.
Is that not a problem?

Are they breaking into houses and robbing people?

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Mr_LegendiaR
08/14/20 5:13:54 PM
#116:


I understand that BLM is a joke, but why do people still take them seriously?

I'd understand if violent protest were going commonplace, but it's like people can't wait for BLM protestors to show their idiocy.

As for the article, did anyone notice how clearly racist it is or see the abundance of clearly racist undertones?

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tm315
08/14/20 5:14:42 PM
#117:


DemonBuffet posted...
Personally, I have a problem with blm protesters bullying local residents by trying to take cash or actuall real estate.
Is that not a problem?
I really didn't see much of that. They marched down there and shouted in a megaphone. I don't think they were legitimately trying to get their homes
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Houston
08/14/20 5:40:35 PM
#118:


Mr_LegendiaR posted...
As for the article, did anyone notice how clearly racist it is or see the abundance of clearly racist undertones?

Ooff, yeah that was pretty bad.

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R1masher
08/14/20 5:41:55 PM
#119:


They probably traumatized the little white kids that live there

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rexcrk
08/14/20 5:43:33 PM
#120:


I havent read the article but for the love of god tell me its one of those satirical articles.

I refuse to believe that that headline is true.

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Smackems
08/14/20 5:45:47 PM
#121:


Not gonna read the article, but what a joke of a movement just going by the headline

Caved and read it, still a joke

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CyricZ
08/14/20 5:53:49 PM
#122:


Houston posted...
So to undo it... you're going to... what?
Hey I'm no politician or city planner.

I'm just responding to the idea that "you can't just do that" when clearly you can. Because it's been done.

Like you treat the owners of the homes in this area as sacrosanct, but what of those who were frozen out?

MrPeppers posted...
I think this is one of those scenarios where knowing the context is negligible.
And yet now you know it. Choosing to ignore it is your own decision.

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MrPeppers
08/14/20 5:55:42 PM
#123:


CyricZ posted...
And yet now you know it. Choosing to ignore it is your own decision.

How am I ignoring the context?

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CyricZ
08/14/20 5:59:05 PM
#124:


MrPeppers posted...
How am I ignoring the context?
negligible
adjective
  1. so small or unimportant as to be not worth considering


Unless you'd like to choose your words differently?

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spanky1
08/14/20 6:05:18 PM
#125:


CyricZ posted...

I think the point is that it was already done before, so... why can't you undo that?

It hasn't been done, though. But I have a feeling I'm going to regret posting this. -_-

Nobody was ever physically forced out of their homes against their will. They had to move because they couldn't afford the higher prices. That's a different thing.
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MrPeppers
08/14/20 6:11:49 PM
#126:


CyricZ posted...
negligible
adjective
1. so small or unimportant as to be not worth considering

Unless you'd like to choose your words differently?

Knowing the framework surrounding a given situation is potentially useful. Potentially being the operative word. The context of this situation, to me, does not justify a march on the suburbs especially since they're not offering to buy the land back and are just (probably as a hollow demonstration) demanding it.

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FortuneCookie
08/14/20 6:14:15 PM
#127:


Welp. Surely one crazy yelling asshole speaks for the entirety of the BLM movement. Time to swear off equality and side with the Blue Lives Matter folks.

(That's sarcasm.)

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FortuneCookie
08/14/20 6:17:01 PM
#128:


Do you know that before your white ass came here, this was all black people? the man says. Do you know people like you came in here and basically bought all the land from the black people for less than what it was worth, kicked them out so you could live here? Do you know that?

The man continues: Cause if you dont, now you f-ing do now do something about it!

Ah, yes. It's well documented that White people swindled the Native African American population out of their land during the Louisiana Purchase.

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RustyFerret
08/14/20 6:19:47 PM
#129:


People defending this are gross.
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Dat_Cracka_Jax
08/14/20 6:23:56 PM
#130:


spanky1 posted...
It hasn't been done, though. But I have a feeling I'm going to regret posting this. -_-

Nobody was ever physically forced out of their homes against their will. They had to move because they couldn't afford the higher prices. That's a different thing.
He's so stubborn that it's a waste of time to engage with him

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bigtiggie23
08/14/20 6:24:14 PM
#131:


FortuneCookie posted...
Welp. Surely one crazy yelling asshole speaks for the entirety of the BLM movement. Time to swear off equality and side with the Blue Lives Matter folks.

(That's sarcasm.)

:/

Thing is people in other places hear about this they immediately draw the conclusion BLM = bad, then when BLM comes to their area they show up to counter protest armed to the teeth.
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Machete
08/14/20 6:24:45 PM
#132:


RustyFerret posted...
People defending this are gross.


What about people who are understanding the context instead of just knee-jerk shitposting?
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The Trent
08/14/20 6:44:08 PM
#133:


Machete posted...
What about people who are understanding the context instead of just knee-jerk shitposting?

context makes it super reasonable

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CyricZ
08/14/20 7:01:24 PM
#134:


spanky1 posted...
It hasn't been done, though. But I have a feeling I'm going to regret posting this. -_-

Nobody was ever physically forced out of their homes against their will. They had to move because they couldn't afford the higher prices. That's a different thing.
Yes there are differences, but the result is the same. They left their homes, and the upper class moved in. All 100% legal.

That's the context. That's the issue.

And you're not going to get me to tell black people "don't protest like that protest like this". Especially when there is no violence being committed.

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fohstick
08/14/20 7:02:54 PM
#135:


das rite. Pay the reparations
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wdlp
08/14/20 7:10:31 PM
#136:


You're all americans why dot you just get along. It's not hard
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SocksForWokMAX2
08/14/20 7:12:22 PM
#137:


Why aren't they arguing that land should be returned to Native Americans instead?
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Zeeak4444
08/14/20 7:13:55 PM
#138:


CyricZ posted...
Apparently it's a gentrified neighborhood that used to be predominantly black. That's the context.

can we get more on This? As in, is there more we have on this?

This would certainly muddy the waters.

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Flauros
08/14/20 7:14:46 PM
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Poop2
08/14/20 7:15:27 PM
#140:


Giant_Aspirin posted...
still totally unreasonable
so is the white people forcing them out of their own neighborhoods
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carljenk
08/14/20 7:20:49 PM
#141:


NY post is white supremacist propaganda

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CyricZ
08/14/20 7:22:52 PM
#143:


Zeeak4444 posted...
can we get more on This? As in, is there more we have on this?

This would certainly muddy the waters.
Gonna be difficult. The article is very non-specific about that. The tweet comes from a rep from Turning Point, and you know how detail and fact-oriented they are.

The article suggests this happened Wednesday and all I can find that isn't right-wing is this from the past weekend:

https://www.capitolhillseattle.com/2020/08/ seattles-weird-weekend-of-protest-anti-gentrification-rally -and-uncle-ikes-boycott-pro-police-protest-at- city-hall-let-us-worship-concert-in-cal-anderson/

Working link here:

https://bit.ly/2Csu8kS

Doing other research, it seems these anti-gentrification protests have been going on and off in Seattle since June.

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Poop2
08/14/20 7:24:51 PM
#144:


"improving" neighborhoods by removing the people that fostered them for decades is disgusting
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Flauros
08/14/20 7:28:32 PM
#145:


Poop2 posted...
"improving" neighborhoods by removing the people that fostered them for decades is disgusting
So people are going in and kicking them out of their houses? How exactly are they doing that?

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PrettyBoyFloyd
08/14/20 7:33:03 PM
#146:


Spooking posted...
BLM may be going down in flames, but you don't really need the group to promote body cameras for all police and dissolving the police union.

I remember back when people opposed to being recorded or watched on camera.

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sneakysnake
08/14/20 7:33:13 PM
#147:


You should take a look at how small business owners view BLM.

They have a right to be afraid of them.
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DemonBuffet
08/15/20 8:43:06 PM
#148:


Overturned! Thanks mods for looking into this fairly. I appreciate it!

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NeuralLaxative
08/15/20 9:16:53 PM
#149:


Best i can do is $3.50

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