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CE_gonna_CE 08/24/20 9:53:12 AM #51: |
If the source in this article is correct, the victims kids were in the car at the time of the shooting. Pretty fucking awful if true.
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CE_gonna_CE 08/24/20 9:55:44 AM #52: |
Alucard188 posted...
I'd love to see the body cam footage from that. There has to be something that triggered the police other than being black in America. https://www.newsweek.com/kenosha-police-werent-wearing-body-cameras-1527131 Guess we wont ever be seeing that. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NinjaWarrior455 08/24/20 9:57:55 AM #53: |
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Ving_Rhames 08/24/20 10:09:59 AM #54: |
CE_gonna_CE posted...
https://www.newsweek.com/kenosha-police-werent-wearing-body-cameras-1527131 <_< ....... --- the real Irving Rameses https://imgur.com/A7f6F9h ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hexenherz 08/24/20 10:11:07 AM #55: |
Don't know if this is from Kenosha since it's reddit and they have a tendency of just slapping random shit together without verifying the facts first, but ...
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Will_Vill 08/24/20 11:11:23 AM #56: |
How are body cams not standard issue by now?
I mean even the cheapest smartphones are $40 and if we're stripping it down to a camera and storage it'd be less that that --- https://imgur.com/ZWNgMXL Formerly known as Will VIIII ... Copied to Clipboard!
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s0nicfan 08/24/20 11:14:58 AM #57: |
Will_Vill posted...
How are body cams not standard issue by now? The issue isn't the cameras. It's that only a handful of companies offer body camera data storage as a service, and since police with body cameras are required to keep their footage for certain amount of time it's literally bankrupting smaller Police departments. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/some-us-police-departments-dump-body-camera-programs-amid-high- costs/2019/01/21/991f0e66-03ad-11e9-b6a9-0aa5c2fcc9e4_story.html But before a single incident could be recorded in the village of 3,000 people, Mee retired, and the new chief, George Carpenter, persuaded the Village Board in February to cancel the program, arguing that the $20,000 annual fee for the cameras and video storage couldnt be justified amid budget concerns. The police department in Wahoo, Neb., ended its program in November after a new state law required video to be stored for at least 90 days, causing the annual price to spike to $15,000 a big cost for a force of five officers. In Arlington County, Va., the police department decided not to use body cameras after a pilot project revealed an estimated annual cost of $300,000. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bloodydeath0 08/24/20 11:22:47 AM #58: |
let's wait for more information first.
we also know this: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgKgtcEU8AAAyck?format=png&name=900x900 --- https://imgur.com/xHbbYI6 http://cdn1.sbnation.com/assets/3386905/G2-Ortiz-Slam.gif Anything too hard in life is not worth doing. -John McGuirk ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheGoldenEel 08/24/20 11:36:40 AM #59: |
bloodydeath0 posted...
let's wait for more information first.i see the character assassination has begun --- The words of The Golden Eel have been revealed... Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Choco 08/24/20 11:37:24 AM #60: |
CE_gonna_CE posted...
the video shows the shootinghow is a literal murder allowed on this site what the hell >_> --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CommonStar 08/24/20 11:44:40 AM #61: |
What happened to the other topic?
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Null_Mime 08/24/20 11:45:06 AM #62: |
TheGoldenEel posted...
i see the character assassination has begun It's not character assassination to point out a guy had an active arrest warrant for multiple domestic violence incidents, and 3rd degree assault. --- PSN: NullMime Pawn: Cecilia | 200 | Mage ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TopKekBro 08/24/20 11:49:33 AM #63: |
bloodydeath0 posted...
let's wait for more information first. why are you doing this? --- Are you worthy enough of getting a top kek? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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iPhone_7 08/24/20 11:49:40 AM #64: |
The cop should have let him get whatever it was that he was reaching for or if he wanted to get into the car and maybe drive away. Theres no excuse for what that cop did, especially with 3 children in the vehicle. #ACAB
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littlebro07 08/24/20 12:08:09 PM #65: |
CE_gonna_CE posted...
If the source in this article is correct, the victims kids were in the car at the time of the shooting. Pretty fucking awful if true. Just adding fuel to the fire. Those kids will grow up with one of their earliest encounters with a police officer being one excessively shooting their father in front of them. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Null_Mime 08/24/20 12:38:32 PM #67: |
ScazarMeltex posted...
It is since none of those things have anything at all to do with the cops murdering him in front of his children. Uh, yeah, it does. If cops get called to a domestic disturbance call, and theres a guy who has an active warrant for domestic abuse and rape, as well as a history of illegal firearm possession, and he both ignores police orders to stop and tries reaching into his vehicle, all those things matter in the context of the situation and how things happened the way they did. --- PSN: NullMime Pawn: Cecilia | 200 | Mage ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eston 08/24/20 12:45:35 PM #68: |
I saw the video, and all I can really say is that if you have police pointing guns at you and telling you to stop, you don't walk away and try to enter your vehicle. They will shoot you, regardless of race, because they know that people commonly keep guns in their vehicles. I hate that this happened and I hate that it happened in front of his children. He made a poor decision.
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Ruvan22 08/24/20 12:52:48 PM #69: |
Null_Mime posted...
Uh, yeah, it does. If cops get called to a domestic disturbance call, and theres a guy who has an active warrant for domestic abuse and rape, as well as a history of illegal firearm possession, and he both ignores police orders to stop and tries reaching into his vehicle, all those things matter in the context of the situation and how things happened the way they did. So you believe they were justified in this shooting? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thronedfire2 08/24/20 12:54:48 PM #70: |
s0nicfan posted...
The issue isn't the cameras. It's that only a handful of companies offer body camera data storage as a service, and since police with body cameras are required to keep their footage for certain amount of time it's literally bankrupting smaller Police departments. but theyre probably still paying cops $70/hr to stand there and direct traffic during construction --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HANGtheDJ_86 08/24/20 1:33:37 PM #71: |
Ruvan22 posted...
So you believe they were justified in this shooting?It kinda depends what the cop who started shooting saw from his angle And what you mean "they"? Is it even confirmed that more than one cop opened fire? --- Green is the Color ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Veggeta_MAX 08/24/20 3:19:58 PM #72: |
Just read up about this. I hope these cops rot.
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Squall28 08/24/20 3:24:13 PM #73: |
They need a better hiring process for cops.
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ox0shadow0xo 08/24/20 3:45:16 PM #74: |
thronedfire2 posted...
but theyre probably still paying cops $70/hr to stand there and direct traffic during constructionI don't know why people exaggerate so much about what cops get paid lol. --- PSN - NoxObscuras Z270-A | i7-7700K | GTX 1080 | 32GB DDR4 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Patchwork 08/24/20 3:57:30 PM #75: |
Its a bad one.
Police had every right to take Blake into custody, but their approach and tactics were fucking awful, and hes critical largely because of that. --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Alexanaxela 08/24/20 6:47:52 PM #76: |
so instead of tackling this unarmed man in the open as they both slowly walked around the car, he instead waited for him for lean in the car so he could execute him. And he couldn't even do that right
why the fuck don't cops know how to descalate a situation --- Tomorrow will be the most beautiful day of Raymond K. Hessel's life. His breakfast will taste better than any meal you and I have ever tasted. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bananana 08/24/20 6:49:51 PM #77: |
No amount of crimes this man may have committed in the past makes it excusable to execute him.
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Poop2 08/24/20 6:52:19 PM #78: |
Bananana posted...
No amount of crimes this man may have committed in the past makes it excusable to execute him.doesnt mean the usual suspects wont try... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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s0nicfan 08/24/20 6:54:28 PM #79: |
Alexanaxela posted...
so instead of tackling this unarmed man in the open as they both slowly walked around the car, he instead waited for him for lean in the car so he could execute him. And he couldn't even do that right They tased him and it didn't work, IIRC. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Patchwork 08/24/20 6:54:30 PM #80: |
This is why I tell guys not the expect the Taser to do their job for them; the amount of times Ive seen it not lock someone up is unreal.
Have a back-up plan. That shit was abysmal. --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tm315 08/24/20 7:13:52 PM #81: |
eston posted...
I saw the video, and all I can really say is that if you have police pointing guns at you and telling you to stop, you don't walk away and try to enter your vehicle. They will shoot you, regardless of race, because they know that people commonly keep guns in their vehicles. I hate that this happened and I hate that it happened in front of his children. He made a poor decision.This is bullshit. Jacob Blake displayed zero aggression, and just stepped into the car. Also, if this was true, the cops would be saying this, and not just "we're investigating." There is no way the cop can justify fearing for his life because the guy was getting in his car. I highly doubt the cops are allowed to shoot just because he thinks the guy might have a gun. And the victim's actions should not be the focus here. The cop's action was a much greater "poor decision" here. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Patchwork 08/24/20 7:20:56 PM #82: |
Saw some murmurings about him having a knife, and that being the reason they were called in the first place. Also some versions have him talking about going to his car to get a gun.
Not sure if these guys had body cams or not. Obviously Im not stating this as factual information, just things Ive seen starting to circulate. Well see, because from this angle, it looks real terrible. --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cornhuskers 08/24/20 7:26:17 PM #83: |
If you want to share an unedited, non trolling comments version of the shooting...
Warning: contains violent images. . https://www.youtu.be/K0DSTV7XT1E RAW VIDEO: Jacob Blake police shooting 13,581 views / Aug 24, 2020 So it looks like a YouTube URL can't be put into spoiler comments? Huh!! --- I don't reap the corn. Gluten intolerance :( ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TopKekBro 08/24/20 7:51:03 PM #84: |
Patchwork posted...
Saw some murmurings about him having a knife, and that being the reason they were called in the first place. Also some versions have him talking about going to his car to get a gun. come on man. Youre better than this, youre the good cop, youre no DP --- Are you worthy enough of getting a top kek? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Patchwork 08/24/20 8:02:15 PM #85: |
TopKekBro posted...
come on man. Youre better than this, youre the good cop, youre no DP Im just relaying what Ive seen start to emerge. Ive stated more than once in here already it looks like a horrendously unjustified shooting. --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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monkeysRfunny 08/24/20 8:49:48 PM #86: |
Wait I thought it was another guy with a knife who got tased? I read an article where people were protesting a shooting where a guy with a knife caused a disturbance in a convenience store, was tased to no effect, then was shot when he tried to go in another store.
But here the guy was just going to his car. --- The story of your fighting is a poem of two words: you suck. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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s0nicfan 08/25/20 10:31:23 AM #87: |
For anyone still tracking this, the BBC posted an update which includes testimony from the person who filmed the incident.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53908303 The person who shot the video, Raysean White, said that before he began taking it, he saw police wrestle with Mr Blake. He said police punched and Tasered Mr Blake. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Patchwork 08/25/20 12:28:23 PM #88: |
monkeysRfunny posted...
Wait I thought it was another guy with a knife who got tased? I read an article where people were protesting a shooting where a guy with a knife caused a disturbance in a convenience store, was tased to no effect, then was shot when he tried to go in another store. Two separate incidents, I believe. I heard about the one youre describing, too. Theyre similar, but yes, the other one involved a male armed with a knife attempting to re-enter a convenience store. --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blightzkrieg 08/25/20 12:31:37 PM #89: |
tm315 posted...
I highly doubt the cops are allowed to shoot just because he thinks the guy might have a gun.Cops are allowed to shoot for any reason at all Remember that cop that shot a whole family at Costco because he fell down? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Patchwork 08/25/20 5:00:27 PM #90: |
Blightzkrieg posted...
Cops are allowed to shoot for any reason at all Cops are not allowed to shoot for any reason at all, but the problem in some of these instances is that the legal standard lies with a reasonableness that has to take into account what the officer saw, felt, and knew at the time. That leaves no clear-cut definition as to when lethal force is allowed, and it would be very difficult to legislate an across-the-board point at which lethal force is authorized because of the fluidity of these interactions. None of us want to see people dying. No cop I know wants to have to pull the trigger on another human being. We all know we may have to, and some of us are better equipped physically, mentally, and emotionally to deal with certain situations that might help prevent the escalation to lethal force. However, it is sometimes an unavoidable point, and there have been plenty of shootings on video that can attest to the inescapable nature of a fatal confrontation on the right (or wrong) day, night, etc. My issues with this shooting are extensive.
This is not an exhaustive list of my issues with this, as Im typing this on my phone while pumping gas, but you get the gist. --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ruvan22 08/25/20 10:24:11 PM #91: |
Patchwork posted...
Cops are not allowed to shoot for any reason at all, but the problem in some of these instances is that the legal standard lies with a reasonableness that has to take into account what the officer saw, felt, and knew at the time. I am very impressed with this reasonable, balanced, thought out post - kudos Patchwerk ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cornhuskers 08/26/20 3:33:36 AM #92: |
This man has done a very good analysis of the cellphone video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDRspoyVa_I Now it's time for bed, I pray for America and for the family of Jacob. Make he recover and walk again. --- I don't reap the corn. Gluten intolerance :( ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Teh_Dr_Phil 08/26/20 3:39:49 AM #93: |
s0nicfan posted...
The issue isn't the cameras. It's that only a handful of companies offer body camera data storage as a service, and since police with body cameras are required to keep their footage for certain amount of time it's literally bankrupting smaller Police departments.Maybe if they spent less purchasing surplus military-grade hardware and more on initiatives that ensure they are held accountable for actions like this, people might not be as upset as they are........ --- Yep. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bloodydeath0 08/26/20 12:18:56 PM #94: |
Teh_Dr_Phil posted...
surplus military-grade hardwarelike what? --- https://imgur.com/xHbbYI6 http://cdn1.sbnation.com/assets/3386905/G2-Ortiz-Slam.gif Anything too hard in life is not worth doing. -John McGuirk ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DirkDiggles 08/26/20 12:25:26 PM #95: |
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FursonaNonGrata 08/26/20 12:26:23 PM #96: |
DirkDiggles posted...
Who trains these cops? Barney Fief? This guy https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.insider.com/bulletproof-dave-grossman-police-trainer-teaching-officers-how-to-kill-2020-6%3famp --- I fought the Mods and I won ~The Outlaw Country of Posting~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Teh_Dr_Phil 08/26/20 1:58:26 PM #97: |
bloodydeath0 posted...
like what?lol my man, the surplus program isnt anything new or hidden. take a quick trip over to google and do some homework if youd like to learn more --- Yep. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bloodydeath0 08/26/20 2:08:16 PM #98: |
Teh_Dr_Phil posted...
lol"The 1033 program was instituted in 1997 under the Clinton administration amid pressure to bolster police forces ability to fight the war on drugs. It transfers the militarys extra or outdated gear to state and local authorities who apply for it, who are responsible only for the cost of shipping." this? --- https://imgur.com/xHbbYI6 http://cdn1.sbnation.com/assets/3386905/G2-Ortiz-Slam.gif Anything too hard in life is not worth doing. -John McGuirk ... Copied to Clipboard!
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