Current Events > This will go well. CDC says to not argue with anti-maskers.

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https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/25/business/cdc-antimask-guidance-retail-employees/index.html

It's probably better that neither side argues with the other over the issue of wearing masks tbh...

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its not cashiers' job to enforce the law. they can call the cops if they want. better not to argue with people for everyone's benefits. Ask them to do so, and if they don't report if you want to, but leave them alone imo.

it's really not worth getting shot/stabbed/assaulted for

I don't disagree with the above posts.

I'm suggesting that now anti-maskers will use this to fuel their motives.

but are they still allowed to go inside any building requiring the use of masks?

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I've never met an anti-mask person irl. They are fortunate for that.

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No shirt, no shoes, no mask, no service.

Don't let someone shop without clothes, don't let them shop without a mask.

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Machete posted...

I've never met an anti-mask person irl. They are fortunate for that.

Same, I'm really, extremely, excessively non-confrontational but I don't think I could handle someone being such an asshole and disregarding other peoples' health like that.

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Machete posted...

I've never met an anti-mask person irl. They are fortunate for that.

I deal with them at work. Our security team is now telling us that the local police is enforcing mask regulations.

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The-Apostle posted...

It's probably better that neither side argues with the other over the issue of wearing masks tbh...

There is the correct side and stupid people who should shut up

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Safer to not go near them, but the more there are, the harder that will be.

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It isn't smart to be within 6 feet of someone who is an anti masker for a prolonged period of time. I'd recommend getting away from them.

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This is for the best. Just stay away from those psychos if you can. Fuck them. Too many of them have attacked innocent people for asking them to have some common decency.

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These same ass clowns were saying we didnt need masks and people were clowning on me when i was promoting masks using mental gymnastics to justify "how they dont do anything" despite health care professionals using them and the fact its a highly contageious disease

Fuck outta here CDC.

If you argue with an anti-maskers, or soeone who doesn't have a mask on, that means their gonna yell at you, thus spreading more droplets your way and may even fight you and your mask will get taken off your face.


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mandated masks are unconstitutional anyway

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Technically, arguing with anti-maskers is just plain riskier for you. They'll be fine though, which is the funny part

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Hexenherz posted...

Same, I'm really, extremely, excessively non-confrontational but I don't think I could handle someone being such an asshole and disregarding other peoples' health like that.

The 2nd sentence in my post is the key one. If I'm involved in a confrontation, I don't look like the one who initiated it. Anti-mask people show their cards straight up. In front of me, that's the end for them. The lucky ones might cough in my face or something but that just means more mutual damage when all is said and done...

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I've turned into a public jerk toward these people at this point, not words, just actions. If i'm going into a building and someone is walking in behind me not wearing a mask, i'm no longer holding the door for that person, I just let it go. If i'm in line and I have like 25-30 items and the person behind me has one or two and not wearing a mask, i'm not offering to let them go ahead of me. If they are going to be disrespectful and not show common courtesy to help protect people around them, i'm not giving them any respect.

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MabusIncarnate posted...

I've turned into a public jerk toward these people at this point, not words, just actions. If i'm going into a building and someone is walking in behind me not wearing a mask, i'm no longer holding the door for that person, I just let it go. If i'm in line and I have like 25-30 items and the person behind me has one or two and not wearing a mask, i'm not offering to let them go ahead of me. If they are going to be disrespectful and not show common courtesy to help protect people around them, i'm not giving them any respect.

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Manager at a Panera. Official policy is wear a mask or no service but if they're not you ask once and if they don't you still serve them. They want the money.

Oh, and if you live in the tri-state area of NewJersey Delaware Pennsylvania, whatever bread, bagels, and pastries you get from us are stale yesterday shit so we can save on food cost.


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Hexenherz posted...

Same, I'm really, extremely, excessively non-confrontational but I don't think I could handle someone being such an asshole and disregarding other peoples' health like that.

Have you seen someone not wear a mask? Did you do anything or say anything to them?

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If I see someone not wearing a mask, I make no assumptions or judgments about them. Maybe they can't wear one (my dad can't) or maybe they forgot it, maybe they just feel like they won't be there long enough for it to matter. Almost everyone else is wearing one anyway, which is more than enough to suppress the virus. Making a scene isn't worth it unless you're just a petty belligerent little prick who finds it too hard to just let people exist.

Annihilated posted...

my dad can't

yes he can. Stop fucking lying.

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Machete posted...

yes he can. Stop fucking lying.

No he fucking can't because he has a pacemaker and told me he has trouble breathing when he wears one. Now you stop fucking lying.

Annihilated posted...

No he fucking can't because he has a pacemaker and told me he has trouble breathing when he wears one. Now you stop fucking lying.

"waaaaahhh I believe full on bullshit and I'm going to try to convince other people to as well"

Don't.

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Houston posted...

Have you seen someone not wear a mask? Did you do anything or say anything to them?

Thankfully I have not yet encountered anyone like this in any of the stores I've gone to, no.

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Annihilated posted...

If I see someone not wearing a mask, I make no assumptions or judgments about them. Maybe they can't wear one (my dad can't) or maybe they forgot it, maybe they just feel like they won't be there long enough for it to matter. Almost everyone else is wearing one anyway, which is more than enough to suppress the virus. Making a scene isn't worth it unless you're just a petty belligerent little prick who finds it too hard to just let people exist.

The highlighted is where you, or "they", are factually wrong.

All it takes is one person to spread a virus. All it takes is them breathing in the general direction of an object or person.

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Annihilated posted...

No he fucking can't because he has a pacemaker and told me he has trouble breathing when he wears one. Now you stop fucking lying.

Sounds like he is the exact kind of person who should be staying home so the rest of the world can get back to normal. Isn't that the anti-COVID logic?

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Guide posted...

The highlighted is where you, or "they", are factually wrong.

All it takes is one person to spread a virus. All it takes is them breathing in the general direction of an object or person.

Neither the CDC nor any health professional says that COVID is spread by breathing, except mouthbreathing possibly. It's usually by talking, coughing, or sneezing. And mask wearing is basically the equivalent of herd immunity for transmission, as the proposed vaccine is not suggested to be much more effective.

hockeybub89 posted...

Sounds like he is the exact kind of person who should be staying home so the rest of the world can get back to normal. Isn't that the anti-COVID logic?

He is and he has been staying home for months. He's over 70 now and has had to close his business because he couldn't take the risk.

hockeybub89 posted...

There is the correct side and stupid people who should shut up

I'd rather the other side not kill me so I leave them alone.

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Annihilated posted...

Neither the CDC nor any health professional says that COVID is spread by breathing, except mouthbreathing possibly. It's usually by talking, coughing, or sneezing.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7205645/

The study reported that even breathing or talking could possibly release tiny particles (Bioaerosols) carrying the SARS-CoV-2 virus which causes COVID 19. The team explained that the virus can stay suspended in the air in the ultrafine mist that is produced when infected people exhale. They recommended wearing masks while going out in public places.

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Antimask people have a very real record of shooting or attacking employees so....

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Machete posted...

yes he can. Stop fucking lying.

"waaaaahhh"

Guide posted...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7205645/

Different sources I guess. There are some that say certain types of masks (neck gaiters and such) are actually worse than wearing no mask at all.

Picking arguements with strangers is a pretty bad idea all around

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Annihilated posted...

Different sources I guess. There are some that say certain types of masks (neck gaiters and such) are actually worse than wearing no mask at all.

I haven't seen any say their worse, but several sources have said they do nothing. I respect when people have legitimate sauce, if you ever want to trade more links.

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myzz7 posted...

mandated masks are unconstitutional anyway

No they arent. Also its irrelevant in the context of businesses enforcing mask mandates(whether government imposed or not) because a business has every right to deny you entry for any reason that isnt about you being in a protected class.

If I told a guy to get the fuck outta my store for not weraing a mask his rights are irrelevant.


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Fam_Fam posted...

its not cashiers' job to enforce the law. they can call the cops if they want. better not to argue with people for everyone's benefits. Ask them to do so, and if they don't report if you want to, but leave them alone imo.

it's really not worth getting shot/stabbed/assaulted for

No but it should be illegal to fire or discipline someone for refusing to service or be near someone not wearing a mask.


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Guide posted...

I haven't seen any say their worse, but several sources have said they do nothing. I respect when people have legitimate sauce, if you ever want to trade more links.

It was a Duke study. Here's a couple that cover it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/wellness/mask-test-duke-covid/2020/08/10/4f2bb888-db18-11ea-b205-ff838e15a9a6_story.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9xCDo1TaZE

Machete posted...

I've never met an anti-mask person irl. They are fortunate for that.

Lmao, your baby back bitch ass wouldnt do shit anyways

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myzz7 posted...

mandated masks are unconstitutional anyway

No they aren't. These stores are owned by people who can tell you not to enter, so unless you think anyone should be allowed to enter your house without pants on you can at least understand why mask policies are in fact constitutional.

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Annihilated posted...

It was a Duke study. Here's a couple that cover it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/wellness/mask-test-duke-covid/2020/08/10/4f2bb888-db18-11ea-b205-ff838e15a9a6_story.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9xCDo1TaZE

The high droplet count observed in the study could be linked to the porous fabric of the neck gaiter that was tested breaking up bigger particles into many little ones that are more likely to hang around in the air longer, Fischer said in the video. This effect makes wearing some gaiters possibly counterproductive, he added.

I hadn't considered that. It says they're updating with experiments that may provide some counterclaims, but the light displacement test seems pretty solid.

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