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MachineJaipur
08/28/20 1:53:50 PM
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tivated?







The new guidelines saying even if you have been around a confirmed/suspected case for more than 15 minutes, if you are asymptomatic then you don't need to get tested.

Do you believe these changes are political and designed to help DJT's reelection campaign?
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StarReaper13
08/28/20 1:55:01 PM
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Probably.

No reason not to get tested if you've spent time around a confirmed case because you can still fucking carry it and give it to others. What the fuck is wrong with the CDC? Who got replaced with a figurehead?

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Rathinor
08/28/20 1:55:26 PM
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Guaranteed. Trump has been saying for months that less testing would equal less cases.

This is so he can (falsely) claim going into election season that COVID-19 is going away
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UnholyMudcrab
08/28/20 1:56:22 PM
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It's difficult to imagine how this administration could possibly be handling the pandemic any worse
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philsov
08/28/20 2:04:26 PM
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Current admin stupidly thinks that cases (and deaths) stop when the testing stops.

In reality, increased testing leads to less spread and less death.

The current admin does not value human welfare.
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EvalAngell
08/28/20 2:07:21 PM
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philsov posted...
Current admin stupidly thinks that cases (and deaths) stop when the testing stops.

In reality, increased testing leads to less spread and less death.

The current admin does not value human welfare.

Obama literally did the same thing with H1N1. But hey - who's counting?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/swine-flu-cases-overestimated/

"In late July, the CDC abruptly advised states to stop testing for H1N1 flu, and stopped counting individual cases," CBS News reported in 2009. "The rationale given for the CDC guidance to forego testing and tracking individual cases was: why waste resources testing for H1N1 flu when the government has already confirmed there's an epidemic?"

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Rathinor
08/28/20 2:10:02 PM
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You know Trumpists have no excuse when they start comparing this to swine flu.
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StarReaper13
08/28/20 2:10:40 PM
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EvalAngell posted...
Obama literally did the same thing with H1N1. But hey - who's counting?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/swine-flu-cases-overestimated/

"In late July, the CDC abruptly advised states to stop testing for H1N1 flu, and stopped counting individual cases," CBS News reported in 2009. "The rationale given for the CDC guidance to forego testing and tracking individual cases was: why waste resources testing for H1N1 flu when the government has already confirmed there's an epidemic?"
Compare the death tolls and the length each had for their quarantines for me while you're at it.

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EvalAngell
08/28/20 2:12:26 PM
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Rathinor posted...
You know Trumpists have no excuse when they start comparing this to swine flu.

those pesky facts right?


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Rathinor
08/28/20 2:14:17 PM
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EvalAngell posted...
those pesky facts right?

StarReaper13 posted...
Compare the death tolls and the length each had for their quarantines for me while you're at it.

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EvalAngell
08/28/20 2:15:29 PM
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StarReaper13 posted...
Compare the death tolls and the length each had for their quarantines for me while you're at it.

Ah yes, the great quarantine of 2009...guess Obama didn't "value human welfare" either right? Go look up how many cases of Swine Flu there were in the U.S. Compare it to the current COVID total. Or do we not care about cases? And only deaths? which is it?

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StarReaper13
08/28/20 2:19:12 PM
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EvalAngell posted...
Ah yes, the great quarantine of 2009...guess Obama didn't "value high welfare" either right? Go look up how many cases of Swine Flu there were in the U.S. Compare it to the current COVID total. Or do we not care about cases? And only deaths? which is it?
What's the death count. This isn't a request.

At this current moment, that's what I care about.

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EvalAngell
08/28/20 2:20:55 PM
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StarReaper13 posted...
What's the death count. This isn't a request.

At this current moment, that's what I care about.

so now we don't care about case counts? That metric no longer matters? The hypocrisy is THICK.

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monkmith
08/28/20 2:21:24 PM
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its delicious irony that trump spent months blasting the WHO for acting as a puppet to china while he's spent his whole term in office turning all the federal agencies into puppets for hm...

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MachineJaipur
08/28/20 2:21:52 PM
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EvalAngell posted...
so now we don't care about case counts? That metric no longer matters? The hypocrisy is THICK.
I've only really seen people talk about the death count tbh.

Once we passed a million, total cases seemed to fall by the wayside in terms of discussion
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kyujo
08/28/20 2:23:05 PM
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Speaking of fun facts, we were also into clinical trials for the H1N1 vaccine in July

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EvalAngell
08/28/20 2:23:20 PM
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MachineJaipur posted...
I've only really seen people talk about the death count tbh.

Once we passed a million, total cases seemed to fall by the wayside in terms of discussion

you can't be serious. You can't eat indoors in some states still all because of case counts...meanwhile these same states have gone several days with 0 deaths. So yes - cases apparently matter. They're also the driving force behind said states pushing for mail-in voting.

Additionally you also have people in the official coronavirus topic still freaking out when there's "spikes" anywhere. So again, cases are still apparently a big deal.

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The23rdMagus
08/28/20 2:24:07 PM
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Definitely seems suspect when they were changed while the government's leading expert on infectious disease was unable to object.

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UnholyMudcrab
08/28/20 2:24:10 PM
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Bunch of missing posts starting to pop up. I don't know who you guys are feeding, but I can tell you that it's not worth your time.
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Rathinor
08/28/20 2:25:22 PM
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EvalAngell posted...
you can't be serious. You can't eat indoors in some states still all because of case counts...meanwhile these same states have gone several days with 0 deaths. So yes - cases apparently matter. They're also the driving force behind said states pushing for mail-in voting.
The fatality rate of COVID-19 is far, far greater than H1N1 though. You literally can't argue with that.
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DarkRoast
08/28/20 2:30:55 PM
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Trump is clearly trying to discredit the CDC and FDA, which he can conveniently do why manipulating them from within.

Dude's a sociopath.


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LightHawKnight
08/28/20 2:31:51 PM
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Of course it is. They literally straight out lied and said Fauci agreed with it and was part of the process when he said he wasn't even conscious during it.

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Rathinor
08/28/20 2:37:34 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
Bunch of missing posts starting to pop up. I don't know who you guys are feeding, but I can tell you that it's not worth your time.
@UnholyMudcrab is EvalAngell a COVID denier troll? He's spouting off false comparisons between H1N1 and COVID-19
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Questionmarktarius
08/28/20 2:40:13 PM
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"If you're not showing symptoms, don't worry about it - but stay away from your grandma for a couple or three weeks" should be the advice.
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kyujo
08/28/20 2:40:53 PM
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Rathinor posted...
UnholyMudcrab is EvalAngell a COVID denier troll? He's spouting off false comparisons between H1N1 and COVID-19
He is - had him tagged for that for a while. People are welcome not to engage but I disagree that posting correct information is any more of a waste than posting in general

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Alteres
08/28/20 2:41:25 PM
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Eh, only 75,000 for h1n1, but thats in 8 years.

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StarReaper13
08/28/20 2:42:30 PM
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EvalAngell posted...
so now we don't care about case counts? That metric no longer matters? The hypocrisy is THICK.
still waiting for the death count

plz keep moving goal posts and back pedaling though

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UnholyMudcrab
08/28/20 2:43:57 PM
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kyujo posted...
Rathinor posted...
UnholyMudcrab is EvalAngell a COVID denier troll? He's spouting off false comparisons between H1N1 and COVID-19
He is - had him tagged for that for a while. People are welcome not to engage but I disagree that posting correct information is any more of a waste than posting in general

Eh, I suppose that's true
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EvalAngell
08/28/20 2:49:52 PM
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StarReaper13 posted...
still waiting for the death count

plz keep moving goal posts and back pedaling though

the point in my original post was to show the hypocrisy in claiming that Trump/CDC are doing anything wrong by stopping testing when the Obama administration did the same thing. No one was moving any goalposts. In fact that term doesn't even apply to this discussion.

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EvalAngell
08/28/20 2:50:48 PM
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Rathinor posted...
@UnholyMudcrab is EvalAngell a COVID denier troll? He's spouting off false comparisons between H1N1 and COVID-19

says the kid posting on an alt.

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Alteres
08/28/20 2:50:49 PM
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StarReaper13 posted...
still waiting for the death count

plz keep moving goal posts and back pedaling though
Right above you, though its a little outdated now.

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DarkRoast
08/28/20 2:51:49 PM
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COVID19 deniers should come work with me for a day and reassess their Dunning-Kruger-ism.

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philsov
08/28/20 2:52:26 PM
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EvalAngell posted...
Obama literally did the same thing with H1N1.


In order to test positive for Swine Flu, one already had to be displaying symptoms. This is not the case with Covid 19.

With Covid 19, early and more frequent testing allows the individual to minimize its spread by going into quarantine before symptoms arise.

Different diseases require different protocol. Reduction of tests can lead to increased covid cases and covid-related deaths.
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EvalAngell
08/28/20 2:52:32 PM
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kyujo posted...
e is - had him tagged for that for a while. People are welcome not to engage but I disagree that posting correct information is any more of a waste than posting in general

I'm not denying the existence of the virus you dope. and have never done so.

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monkmith
08/28/20 3:27:45 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
COVID19 deniers should come work with me for a day and reassess their Dunning-Kruger-ism.
think they'd rather follow random staff around and ask why all the covid patients aren't being kept in the entrance hall...

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DarkRoast
08/28/20 7:12:21 PM
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EvalAngell posted...
I'm not denying the existence of the virus you dope. and have never done so.

Let me guess

1) People dying of other things are counted as COVID deaths (Wrong)
2) They're actually flu deaths (Wrong)
3) It's actually Fauci's fault (Wrong)
4) HCQ works and doctors are playing politics (Wrong)
5 It's a plandemic (Wrong)

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hockeybub89
08/28/20 7:13:52 PM
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It has to be because it literally makes no sense. Asymptomatic carriers are the most prone to spread the goddamn thing


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MachineJaipur
08/29/20 8:04:42 AM
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80% of CE thinks it was politically motivated
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nfearurspecimn
08/29/20 8:08:44 AM
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I might as well live it up, since I don't know if I'll have a tomorrowyear.

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Thompson
08/29/20 8:12:39 AM
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Nobody:

EvalAngell: But Obama!

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ssjevot
08/29/20 8:28:56 AM
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A lot of you think the CDC wasn't already gutted and run by Trumpers for some reason. I posted back here in February from.CDC quarantine after I was evacuated from China. They told us we didn't need to wear masks, the kept adding in new evacuation groups to our same hotel without extending our quarantine time, they let us and even encouraged us to hang out in groups, they tested absolutely no one (despite my nextdoor neighbor coughing non-stop, no idea how they got out of China) and they constantly suggested that people dying from coronavirus in the US was extremely unlikely. I never took my mask off and had my meals delivered to my door because I knew it would be a disaster. The next time I saw someone else with a mask on was my flight back to Japan. Even the CDC guy in charge of our quarantine didn't wear a mask.

The CDC has been garbage from the start, this isn't new.

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MachineJaipur
08/29/20 1:45:06 PM
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Thompson posted...
Nobody:

EvalAngell: But Obama!
Obama still living rent free in conservatives head
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Rathinor
08/29/20 1:46:22 PM
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Looks like EvalAngell got suspended for his COVID denying
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DarkRoast
08/29/20 2:46:00 PM
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Rathinor posted...
Looks like EvalAngell got suspended for his COVID denying

It's ****ing irritating what COVID deniers have done to this country. They're quite literally endangering my life personally as I have to admit these people daily.

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kyujo
08/29/20 4:17:20 PM
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I'm sure a nice suspension will keep them from doing it again

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