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FortuneCookie
08/29/20 3:26:45 PM
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If the entirety of people's suspension of disbelief rests upon a character's appearance remaining unchanged from sequel to sequel, then we needn't have sequels in the first place.

Imagine if Back to the Future ended in an unresolved cliffhanger because Jennifer was never recast. What if The Godfather: Part II never happened? What if You Only Live Twice was the final James Bond movie until the reboot and Iron Man 2 began with Rhodes's funeral?

Warner Bros. is throwing away the entire DC Cinematic Universe over the fact that Superman and Batman won't look the same as they did in the couple of movies. And now people are saying that Black Panther, a recent mainstay in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, should be killed off-screen and replaced by a supporting character.

That's not out of respect for the late Chadwick Boseman. That's out of an absolutely obsessive need for strict continuity. That's like letting a movie be ruined for you because a character eats a peanut butter and jelly sandwich in the third movie after stating they have a peanut allergy in the first movie. A little continuity is fine, but the needs of the story take priority over literally everything else.

Chadwick Boseman, rest in peace. Wakanda forever. Marvel should 100% recast the character rather than make "Black Panther" a legacy character.

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s0nicfan
08/29/20 3:27:28 PM
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I'm pretty sure they're throwing out the entire cinematic universe because Zack Snyder is a hack that ruined their plans.

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RedJackson
08/29/20 3:28:41 PM
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Didn't you make a topic complaining about some lady's boob change? >_>
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FortuneCookie
08/29/20 3:31:36 PM
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There's a difference between not liking the redesign of a fictional character and not allowing a new actor to replace an old actor when circumstance makes it impossible for said actor to return.

I'm annoyed when an attractive woman returns with her hair cut short or when an animated character is redrawn in a less sexy fashion. And no point though would I be like, "Hmm... They should kill her between sequels/seasons because it's inappropriate that she looks as good as she does."

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nemu
08/29/20 3:32:47 PM
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It depends on the actor's weight of impact on the character. Trying to replace Iron Man had RDJ died would have been near impossible. Replacing the Hulk was easy because the movie bombed by association with the 2003 one so Avengers was the first time a lot of people were seeing the Hulk in that franchise. Black Panther has way more weight due to the success of the movie, so same character, different actor would be more of a slap in the face than anything.
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ReignFury
08/29/20 3:36:28 PM
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We got a joker recast 8 years after Heath Ledger died, there just has to be an appropriate amount of time before moving on.

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FortuneCookie
08/29/20 3:37:33 PM
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It's losing Boseman which is the slap in the face. And that can't be helped. That's not scripted, that's not a creative decision, that's real life getting in the way of a good time.

Black Panther 2 is going to be jarring no matter what. That pain can be eased if the next Black Panther actor has cameo roles in other Marvel movies before Black Panther 2 comes out. That's a rare opportunity which not many studios have in these kinds of circumstances.

They can't just write out Black Panther or give the title to a new character (Shuri, Killmonger, etc.). Black Panther, T'challa, needs to be there.

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Bananana
08/29/20 3:38:43 PM
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FortuneCookie posted...
They can't just write out Black Panther or give the title to a new character (Shuri, Killmonger, etc.)
Why? In the comics there are other Black Panthers. Its a title, not a character

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s0nicfan
08/29/20 3:40:12 PM
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FortuneCookie posted...
They can't just write out Black Panther or give the title to a new character (Shuri, Killmonger, etc.)

Yes they can, and that would be entirely consistent with the comic book character. Black Panther is a title, one that has been handed down through many generations. His power comes from the magical water that makes him strong and a suit made of indestructible material, neither of which were of his invention.

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s0nicfan
08/29/20 3:41:07 PM
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For example:


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radical rhino
08/29/20 3:44:26 PM
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The Back to the Future comparison would only work if Michael J. Fox died between films. And I couldnt even tell you who was recast for Godfather 2. Surely youre not referring to Vito Corleone, since its not a recast to have a different actor play a character in a 40 years ago prequel.

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nemu
08/29/20 3:44:57 PM
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FortuneCookie posted...
Black Panther 2
Filming hasn't even begun on it, so, if they even plan on moving ahead with it, they can easily change things around to a new Black Panther influenced by the loss of the original. I'd bet on them just shelving the project, introducing the successor, and then later on maybe giving them their own film. That's if the MCU isn't forever scarred by COVID.
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FortuneCookie
08/29/20 4:22:23 PM
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Bananana posted...
Why? In the comics there are other Black Panthers. Its a title, not a character

Because T'challa has a prominent role in the Marvel universe now. It'd be like if Robert Downey Jr. passed away after the first Avengers movie. You couldn't have just said, "He died from his injuries sustained in the Battle of New York. Steve Rhodes is the new Iron Man."

The T'challa character himself needs to be around a little while longer even if they are interested in eventually having him succeeded.

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skermac
08/29/20 4:25:26 PM
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FortuneCookie posted...
If the entirety of people's suspension of disbelief rests upon a character's appearance remaining unchanged from sequel to sequel, then we needn't have sequels in the first place.

Imagine if Back to the Future ended in an unresolved cliffhanger because Jennifer was never recast. What if The Godfather: Part II never happened? What if You Only Live Twice was the final James Bond movie until the reboot and Iron Man 2 began with Rhodes's funeral?

Warner Bros. is throwing away the entire DC Cinematic Universe over the fact that Superman and Batman won't look the same as they did in the couple of movies. And now people are saying that Black Panther, a recent mainstay in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, should be killed off-screen and replaced by a supporting character.

That's not out of respect for the late Chadwick Boseman. That's out of an absolutely obsessive need for strict continuity. That's like letting a movie be ruined for you because a character eats a peanut butter and jelly sandwich in the third movie after stating they have a peanut allergy in the first movie. A little continuity is fine, but the needs of the story take priority over literally everything else.

Chadwick Boseman, rest in peace. Wakanda forever. Marvel should 100% recast the character rather than make "Black Panther" a legacy character.


nveevuse a different actor for a beloved character!

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FortuneCookie
08/29/20 4:26:45 PM
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skermac posted...
nveevuse a different actor for a beloved character!


FortuneCookie posted...
If the entirety of people's suspension of disbelief rests upon a character's appearance remaining unchanged from sequel to sequel, then we needn't have sequels in the first place.


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SwayM
08/29/20 4:34:13 PM
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I appreciate your arguments TC.

Dont know how I feel about it yet. Too soon. We werent getting a BP2 for a long time anyway so we have time.

But whatever they do I just hope the fans are cool with it too.

If they do end up recasting I can picture the outrage engine fuelling up already. And I dont necessarily think it needs to be a fight like that.

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