Poll of the Day > If I ever have a son, I want him to be just like Kyle Rittenhouse

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Joker_X_II posted...

He lost the bottom half of his right bicep; to the bone too.

I meant Kyle

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Joker_X_II posted...

If the kid is going to claim self-defense in his trial, he's going to point out that the "one-armed man" had a weapon, and was well within his rights to take him out.

The kid had already murdered someone, so the other guy was well within his rights to take him out.
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kangolcone posted...

By asking whats the thugs excuse you are trying to justify a minor carrying an illegal firearm across state lines.

Again, literally trying to say two wrongs make a right.

By asking what's the kid's excuse you are trying to justify a thug carrying an illegal firearm across state line for a "peaceful protest". (cuz IIRC, the one-armed thug wasn't a local either)

See it yet?...the hypocrisy?

What if the positions was reversed, and the thug shot the kid dead with his glock? .... how would the narrative go?...oh wait, that already did happen elsewhere...

I don't care if we don't see eye to eye on this, just understand your position is less righteous and more hypocritical if you think the kid was wrong at all, and the thug was innocent.


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Entity13 posted...

I know that multiple people have reported it, even. Like I had said in another thread, the stupidest, pettiest thing gets hit after one or two people marking it, but something that clearly goes against the actual rules can take forever, and usually even then happen after people stop posting in such a topic as this.

I've been modded for suggesting nazis deserve to be punched in the face before. And this is still up.

Metalsonic66 posted...

I meant Kyle

numerous bruises on his head in the shape of fists, skateboards and 1 inch soles....

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GanonsSpirit posted...

The kid had already murdered someone, so the other guy was well within his rights to take him out.

The kid defended him self....it's not murder.

EDIT:.....special message from the kids lawyer....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJ8HukJGIp0&list=WL&index=49&t=0s

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Joker_X_II posted...

numerous bruises on his head in the shape of fists, skateboards and 1 inch soles....

Pics.
A bruise in the shape of a skateboard sounds pretty badass TBH

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Metalsonic66 posted...

Pics.

Accounts say he was punched and got a skateboard across the head.... So obviously that's going to leave a mark; common sense.

as for pics, nothing I can find has leaked.

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Joker_X_II posted...

By asking what's the kid's excuse you are trying to justify a thug carrying an illegal firearm across state line for a "peaceful protest". (cuz IIRC, the one-armed thug wasn't a local either)

See it yet?...the hypocrisy?

What if the positions was reversed, and the thug shot the kid dead with his glock? .... how would the narrative go?...oh wait, that already did happen elsewhere...

I don't care if we don't see eye to eye on this, just understand your position is less righteous and more hypocritical if you think the kid was wrong at all, and the thug was innocent.

Answer me this: Is it legal for a 17 year old to cross state lines with a gun?

And heres the fun part. Show me my post where I said the thug was innocent. I will wait for your reply.

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Joker_X_II posted...

as for pics, nothing I can find has leaked.

Lame. You got my hopes up.

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Joker_X_II posted...

Accounts say he was punched and got a skateboard across the head.... So obviously that's going to leave a mark; common sense.

as for pics, nothing I can find has leaked.

President Trump punched my mother in the mouth. I don't have pics or evidence of any kind, but it absolutely happened just take my word for it

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kangolcone posted...

By asking whats the thugs excuse you are trying to justify a minor carrying an illegal firearm across state lines.

Again, literally trying to say two wrongs make a right.

That's only relevant to that particular gun law. Self defense claims would have nothing to do with the firearm being illegal or not.
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Revelation34 posted...

That's only relevant to that particular gun law. Self defense claims would have nothing to do with the firearm being illegal or not.

Fuck that

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kangolcone posted...

Answer me this: Is it legal for a 17 year old to cross state lines with a gun?

Answer me this: Is it legal for a convicted felon to cross state lines with a gun he was not allowed to carry?

That is how the law is written (funny how you fail to see how precedence can make exceptions to those petty laws)

But the bigger picture says "Does it matter?" .....see you people can't understand your own narrative......

The question isn't why he should or shouldn't have a gun, the question is was Kyle in mortal danger to use any means necessary to defend himself....

Rittenhouse went to Kenosha to help defend his family's business during a riot, when all the 'rules' are thrown out the window regardless. No one has time to observe the anal-retentive letter of the law, because it's "do or die". Put the gun in his hand, and defend yourselves.... You think settlers observed the law when the natives circled their wagons?....no different here.

However, understand too that Rittenhouse was just a much a resident in Kenosha than the majority of the rioters who were there. He lived 30 mins away from Kenosha, but he worked and volunteered in the city too and had very close ties in the community. An argument can (and most likely be made) that he was more of a resident than you refuse to acknowledge.

As for being underage? Again, semantics. A few months shy of being 'legal', and you think the rioters are going to wait? When life and limb and livelhood are at stake, the courts will see exceptions had to be made

You're whole argument is based on a 30 minute daily commute to work and a month or two away from being an adult.....the courts will make that exception, just like differentiating between "murder" and "self-defense".

nice try.

kangolcone posted...

And heres the fun part. Show me my post where I said the thug was innocent. I will wait for your reply.

Doesn't matter, because it's about the narrative that is being portrayed.

You think this kid is some kid of Incel looking to shoot up a crowd of people? When he's just a typical apple-pie red blooded 2A American doing what they do.....

This thug already has Twitter calling him a hero, yet he fell into the same fallacies as the kid too.

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Far-Queue posted...

President Trump punched my mother in the mouth. I don't have pics or evidence of any kind, but it absolutely happened just take my word for it

You obvious didn't see the video where the dead wife-beater took a skateboard to his head, before getting shot point blank in the chest.....

Again, common sense dictates getting a skateboard to the head leaves a mark.....

...but no, please, continue to play Judge Judy....

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Revelation34 posted...

That's only relevant to that particular gun law. Self defense claims would have nothing to do with the firearm being illegal or not.

If your shoot somebody with an illegal firearm and claim self-defense, you are in fact in possession of an illegal firearm.

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I dunno what he was doing rushing into the riot with an AR-15(?) in the first place, but I saw the video and he was definitely defending himself.

Rifle > skateboard
Antifa is dumb.

Joker_X_II posted...

Answer me this: Is it legal for a convicted felon to cross state lines with a gun he was not allowed to carry?

That is how the law is written (funny how you fail to see how precedence can make exceptions to those petty laws)

But the bigger picture says "Does it matter?" .....see you people can't understand your own narrative......

The question isn't why he should or shouldn't have a gun, the question is was Kyle in mortal danger to use any means necessary to defend himself....

Rittenhouse went to Kenosha to help defend his family's business during a riot, when all the 'rules' are thrown out the window regardless. No one has time to observe the anal-retentive letter of the law, because it's "do or die". Put the gun in his hand, and defend yourselves.... You think settlers observed the law when the natives circled their wagons?....no different here.

However, understand too that Rittenhouse was just a much a resident in Kenosha than the majority of the rioters who were there. He lived 30 mins away from Kenosha, but he worked and volunteered in the city too and had very close ties in the community. An argument can (and most likely be made) that he was more of a resident than you refuse to acknowledge.

As for being underage? Again, semantics. A few months shy of being 'legal', and you think the rioters are going to wait? When life and limb and livelhood are at stake, the courts will see exceptions had to be made

You're whole argument is based on a 30 minute daily commute to work and a month or two away from being an adult.....the courts will make that exception, just like differentiating between "murder" and "self-defense".

nice try.

Doesn't matter, because it's about the narrative that is being portrayed.

You think this kid is some kid of Incel looking to shoot up a crowd of people? When he's just a typical apple-pie red blooded 2A American doing what they do.....

This thug already has Twitter calling him a hero, yet he fell into the same fallacies as the kid too.

I have a serious question. Are you unable to have a discussion without assigning the beliefs and thoughts you think I hold?

Can you show me anywhere that I said anything about Kyle Rittenhouse being an incel? Can you show me my post where I call the other guy a hero?

And, yes, it actually does make a difference because its not semantics. Its actually the law. The law states you cannot legally own a firearm until 18. The law also states you cannot cross state lines while in possession of a gun that is not licensed to you.

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kangolcone posted...

If your shoot somebody with an illegal firearm and claim self-defense, you are in fact in possession of an illegal firearm.

So what?

At best, he doesn't get charged with such a minor gun offense because self-defense was an issue.

At worse, he'll get a $1000 fine, or some kind of probation involving an ankle bracelet and endless hours couch-surfing and playing all the Call of Duty he wants.

kangolcone posted...

Its actually the law.

And you think that's iron clad?


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Joker_X_II posted...

So what?

At best, he doesn't get charged with such a minor gun offense because self-defense was an issue.

At worse, he'll get a $1000 fine, or some kind of probation involving an ankle bracelet and endless hours couch-surfing and playing all the Call of Duty he wants.

And you think that's iron clad?

Im still waiting for the parts of my argument where I said he was an incel and the other guy is a hero. I dont feel the need to respond to your questions until youve shown me where I said those things.


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Mead posted...

Fuck that

Fuck what the law actually is?

kangolcone posted...

If your shoot somebody with an illegal firearm and claim self-defense, you are in fact in possession of an illegal firearm.

You don't say.
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Joker_X_II posted...

Rittenhouse went to Kenosha to help defend his family's business

You keep saying this, but it wasn't his family's business. Just like it wasn't his business to be there.
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Revelation34 posted...

Fuck what the law actually is?

You don't say.

I do say. I had to say because apparently that was unclear before as you felt the need to comment.

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kangolcone posted...

I do say. I had to say because apparently that was unclear before as you felt the need to comment.

Because you missed the point. It would be an illegal gun charge which has no bearing on if he murdered somebody or not.
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GanonsSpirit posted...

You keep saying this, but it wasn't his family's business. Just like it wasn't his business to be there.

Even if it was a 'just a friend's' business, he'd still have every right to be there; if the owner gave permission to Kyle to be there and defend his property.

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kangolcone posted...

Im still waiting for the parts of my argument where I said he was an incel and the other guy is a hero. I dont feel the need to respond to your questions until youve shown me where I said those things.

Don't flip-flop, and don't hide behind your intentions.... If you're going to cloud the BIG PICTURE with petty law infractions over the "god-given" federal laws on self-defense, you've obvious exposed your bias.

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Revelation34 posted...

Because you missed the point. It would be an illegal gun charge which has no bearing on if he murdered somebody or not.

Can you show me anywhere that I said differently? I simply stated he had an illegal firearm. Do you people not know how to read or are you incapable of arguing without assumption?

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Joker_X_II posted...

Don't flip-flop, and don't hide behind your intentions.... If you're going to cloud the BIG PICTURE with petty law infractions over the "god-given" federal laws on self-defense, you've obvious exposed your bias.

How am I flip flopping? Can you show me any post where Ive talked about things other than his illegal firearm?

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Joker_X_II posted...

Even if it was a 'just a friend's' business, he'd still have every right to be there; if the owner gave permission to Kyle to be there and defend his property.

A business owner does not have the authority to state a minor can travel across state lines with a gun.

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kangolcone posted...

Do you people not know how to read or are you incapable of arguing without assumption?

Because this topic is so divisive there are only two types of people making judgments on Kyle

1) He's some brainwashed white-supremacist 2A nutting Incel looking to legitimately gun down "leftist liberals".

2) He's an American hero, being righteous in doing what real Americans do when defending themselves.

...flip-flopping on petty infractions like "state-lines" and "being underage carrying a rifle" is just proving how weak the Antifa-types are getting, when there is a real legit case for Kyle being cleared of his charges.

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kangolcone posted...

A business owner does not have the authority to state a minor can travel across state lines with a gun.

Again, semantics.....

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Joker_X_II posted...

Because this topic is so divisive there are only two types of people making judgments on Kyle

1) He's some brainwashed white-supremacist 2A nutting Incel looking to legitimately gun down "leftist liberals".

2) He's an American hero, being righteous in doing what real Americans do when defending themselves.

...flip-flopping on petty infractions like "state-lines" and "being underage carrying a rifle" is just proving how weak the Antifa-types are getting, when there is a real legit case for Kyle being cleared of his charges.

Im neither of those and Im sorry that you only know people like that.

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