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LethalAffinity
09/01/20 1:47:58 AM
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The protagonist himself and you play as one of the other main characters to stop them?

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scar the 1
09/01/20 1:50:32 AM
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LethalAffinity posted...
The protagonist himself and you play as one of the other main characters to stop them?
Bloodstained, the 8-bit style platformer

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Onepunch-Man
09/01/20 1:50:39 AM
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g0ldie
09/01/20 1:50:56 AM
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sorry, I think I misread the OP

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LethalAffinity
09/01/20 1:52:05 AM
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Has this ever been done in a JRPG? I think it's a cool concept

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Zeeak4444
09/01/20 1:52:52 AM
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Onepunch-Man posted...
Eternal Sonata

this is the best that came to my mind too.

also phenomenal game, at its time at least, not sure how it aged.

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Tyranthraxus
09/01/20 1:53:14 AM
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LethalAffinity posted...
The protagonist himself and you play as one of the other main characters to stop them?

Not 100% exactly but

There's no way to say what game it is without spoiling everything so I'll just say SNES RPG spoilers.

In Lufia 1 she leaves your party and you have to fight her and the rest of the final bosses with just 3 people. She eventually rejoins for the last second.

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YugiNoob
09/01/20 1:53:19 AM
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Does Nier Automata count?

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BakonBitz
09/01/20 1:57:26 AM
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LethalAffinity posted...
Has this ever been done in a JRPG? I think it's a cool concept

It's actually an idea I've been cooking up for a while. I've been trying to flesh out the party members so they all have their own arc. And no, I'm not pulling a cop-out that the protagonist is under the influence of some dark power. He turns on his own accord.

It's technically not a jRPG I'm working on since I have zero programming skills, it's just a story and characters. But it's meant to be for a jRPG.
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Ving_Rhames
09/01/20 1:58:05 AM
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Didn't Baten Kaitos do this?

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Delta_Force
09/01/20 1:58:05 AM
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Does Heavy Rain count?

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Aressar
09/01/20 2:00:23 AM
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Soul Reaver 2

Raziel (who is a being 'beyond death') travels back in time and ends up fighting and killing his human self as the final boss.

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LethalAffinity
09/01/20 2:00:46 AM
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BakonBitz posted...
It's actually an idea I've been cooking up for a while. I've been trying to flesh out the party members so they all have their own arc. And no, I'm not pulling a cop-out that the protagonist is under the influence of some dark power. He turns on his own accord.

It's technically not a jRPG I'm working on since I have zero programming skills, it's just a story and characters. But it's meant to be for a jRPG.

Cool idea. You should make it where the more you min-max'd the character the harder the fight would be. They'd the stats, items, etc. would all be variables

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Guerrilla Soldier
09/01/20 2:04:16 AM
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not the same but in one of the streets of rage games, you can choose to side with the final boss and you fight your partner

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Kelystic
09/01/20 2:04:23 AM
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HBO Game of Thrones
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St0rmFury
09/01/20 2:05:44 AM
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Breath of Fire IV's bad ending.
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BakonBitz
09/01/20 2:05:44 AM
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LethalAffinity posted...


Cool idea. You should make it where the more you min-max'd the character the harder the fight would be. They'd the stats, items, etc. would all be variables

I did kinda have that idea. The character himself doesn't have any "unique" gameplay gimmicks, his thing is learning skills from his other party members and retrofitting them in his own methods. A jack-of-all-trades. I even made it so that his girlfriend (one of the party members) is actually a master at using weaponry due to being part of the military guard, and she taught him battle skills. So he's more clunky at it than her but he still gets the job done and finds his own methods to make up for it.
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GiftedACIII
09/01/20 2:07:51 AM
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Kircheis
09/01/20 2:16:13 AM
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Kind of a reverse example, but you basically become the final boss in Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World. Emil tricks the party into thinking that he's been possessed by Ratatosk again and gone crazy so that they have to put him down, and you're fought by Lloyd and Marta. If you win the fight you get a bad ending.
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apocalyptic_4
09/01/20 2:20:04 AM
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baiten katos on the gamecube. Great Rpg that twist came from left field probably one of my favorite moments in gaming.

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gunplagirl
09/01/20 2:20:07 AM
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One of the endings in Disgaea 2 and 3 have this happen

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Shadowplay
09/01/20 2:22:02 AM
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apocalyptic_4 posted...
baiten katos on the gamecube. Great Rpg that twist came from left field probably one of my favorite moments in gaming.
Yeah this, except it wasn't the final boss. You also take control of the secondary, with her becoming the leader of the party until the main character inevitably rejoins.

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Killmonger
09/01/20 2:27:21 AM
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Does Prince of Persia: The Two Thrones count?

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Middle hope
09/01/20 2:28:31 AM
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Manhunt 2 spoilers

Manhunt 2

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bigtiggie23
09/01/20 2:28:54 AM
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Star Ocean: The Last Hope

While not the main protagonist the final boss is one of your party members for most of the game.
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Questionmarktarius
09/01/20 2:29:16 AM
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Eternal Darkness.

Also there's the Darkwitch games, where the party in the RPG spinoffs are all antagonists from various games, and the (final) endboss is the series protagonist.
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Middle hope
09/01/20 2:34:13 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Eternal Darkness.

Also there's the Darkwitch games, where the party in the RPG spinoffs are all antagonists from various games, and the (final) endboss is the series protagonist.
I wouldnt say eternal darkness. You play as pious for 1 mission and you see his corruption at the start of the game. Alex is the main protag

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bnui_ransder
09/01/20 2:35:26 AM
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Dragons Dogma

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iPhone_7
09/01/20 2:43:05 AM
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Kelystic posted...
HBO Game of Thrones


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AvantgardeAClue
09/01/20 2:58:08 AM
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https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DuelingPlayerCharacters

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Holy_Cloud105
09/01/20 3:00:10 AM
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Does Tales of Xillia 2 count? You murder the entire main cast of the first game in one of the bad ends.

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BakonBitz
09/01/20 3:06:14 AM
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apocalyptic_4 posted...
baiten katos on the gamecube. Great Rpg that twist came from left field probably one of my favorite moments in gaming.

I feel like I should play Baten Kaitos at some point. I love the Xenoblade games and it's made by the same dev...and also I swear my idea wasn't stolen from BK but it's starting to sound like it, lol.
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andri_g
09/01/20 3:16:28 AM
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IIRC, Spec-Ops: The Line (I prefer to leave some room for doubt...).

bnui_ransder posted...
Dragons Dogma
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SuperShake666
09/01/20 3:18:10 AM
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Detroit can end this way, depending on your choices.

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MagnusDJL
09/01/20 3:22:14 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
Bloodstained, the 8-bit style platformer

Bloodstained: Curse of the Moon to be precise.
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scar the 1
09/01/20 3:53:03 AM
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MagnusDJL posted...
Bloodstained: Curse of the Moon to be precise.
I always mix it up with Castlevania: Circle of the Moon so I was afraid to say it

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Endgame
09/01/20 3:58:06 AM
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The Wonderswan version of Mega Man & Bass. The whole story is about Quint (The same one from MM2 GB that's Mega Man from the future that Dr. Wily reprogrammed. So basically evil Mega Man from the future.) trying to take over the world. And if I recall correctly there was no "Wily was behind it again." twist.

Other than that, Shadow Link from AoL is the closest thing I can think of. It's technically a reflection of Link. So..... it is Link in a sense.
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TheFuriousInch
09/01/20 4:03:01 AM
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Double Dragon, but I forget which one.

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Hambo the Hog
09/01/20 4:35:55 AM
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Shadow of the Colossus: The protagonist turns into a giant monster much like the ones you fight throughout the game. But you still play as him as the antagonists(?) attempt to fight you off and they eventually manage to subdue you. So it's not actually what you're describing.

Kingdom Hearts DDD: One of the two playable characters gets possessed or whatever and the other needs to fight him to free him. So that one is closer.

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j_coat
09/01/20 4:42:33 AM
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Star Wars Kotor

Castlevania Aria of Sorrow
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UnfairRepresent
09/01/20 4:45:38 AM
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Well sort of

A Way Out
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AlmightyCheeks
09/01/20 4:47:04 AM
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Dark Souls 3

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Smackems
09/01/20 4:50:02 AM
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bnui_ransder posted...
Dragons Dogma
Ooo that's a good one

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Hambo the Hog
09/01/20 5:24:42 AM
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mattymad posted...
Did we play the same game? That sounds nothing like I remember... I only played the original PS2 verison though
It's not like a big battle or anything. It's practically an interactive cutscene and it's over pretty quickly, so I could imagine forgetting the segment entirely.

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Ilishe
09/01/20 5:32:12 AM
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Not quite but the final boss in Valkyrie Profile 2 was a party member for a long time.

Anyone who played the first game saw it coming though.

Breath of Fire 4 has two endings. You fight one of the two protagonists (deuterogonists?) in one and your party becomes the final boss against both of them in the other.

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UnfairRepresent
09/02/20 4:28:39 PM
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mattymad posted...


Did we play the same game? That sounds nothing like I remember... I only played the original PS2 verison though


Not quite.

But I get why he said it
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gamepimp12
09/02/20 4:31:51 PM
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attack on Titan

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