Current Events > 93% of Black Lives Matter Protests Have Been Peaceful, New Report Finds

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FursonaNonGrata posted...

Yes, like Kyle Rittenhouse and other right wing/white supremacist militias who brandish weapons at peaceful protestors. Did you ignore that part of my post?

no, i'm just ignoring the fact you're trying to pick a fight for no good reason. i dont feel the need to virtue signal all the time. i can accept that we've had bad actors from both parties, i'm sorry you cant. surprisingly, some people dont go to these BLM rallies to actually support that cause...

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Yeah I don't really believe that number. I'm not saying its significantly higher or a majority of the protests, I just don't believe that 93% of them are peaceful.

Besides who gives a shit if a 20 person protest is peaceful if the 5,000 person protest resorts to violence and results in millions of dollars worth of property damage and numerous injuries?

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Over 30 people have died during these protest riots, blm doesn't get any of that blame?

monkmith posted... i dont feel the need to virtue signal all the time

Except you did.

monkmith posted...

jackasses from out of state just looking to rabble rouse or steal shit?

I'm not trying to start anything, just pointing out that you're conveniently handwaving those who perpetrate most of the violence at these protests in favor of people who "rabble rouse" or "steal shit." Language is important and it's pretty clear that you're using coded language here.

I think it's always worth noting when users here will carry water for white supremacist militias. Other users need to know who they're interacting with.

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monkmith posted...

of that 7% that wasn't, what's the percentage caused by jackasses from out of state

Probably not many, given how much of that narrative was bullshit.
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the legitimacy of the protests is not dependent on remaining peaceful

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grand reminder that the majority demo often overestimates crime stats involving anything Black to almost comical degrees, these studies won't do much to change their/y'alls minds.

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averagejoel posted...

the legitimacy of the protests is not dependent on remaining peaceful

This is true, and was not the purpose of this topic.

The purpose was to silence the popular narrative that the protests are majority violent in order to distract from the goals and causes of them in the first place.

But it seems there are still grifters who come in this topic with their "Here's how it's still a bad thing!" and "all violence is bad!" shit-talking rhetoric.

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ZMythos posted...

But it seems there are still grifters who come in this topic with their "Here's how it's still a bad thing!" and "all violence is bad!" shit-talking rhetoric.

They're not grifters, they're just right-wing shitposters

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My main question with how other people view protests in general is, will any percentage of looting make people dismiss the whole movement? What amount of negativity can be allowed? How much condemnation is needed? Is 7% too much?

If literally every BLM protest devolved into burned cars, burned premises, stabbed and shot people, and fourteen gang rapes, a pro-BLM politician saying "Yeah things could be better" is obviously not enough.

On the other side if a few of the protests had a few broken windows, upturned rubbish bins, and one burning car, and some anti-BLM politician would claim it's like civil war in the streets, that would clearly be ridiculous.
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Already knew they were gonna memory hole these protests as peaceful and there's nothing anyone can do about it.

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viewmaster_pi posted...

so there's been like 540 violent ones?

Yeah. In 3 months... five hundred and fucking forty... but no biggie....

these fuckin loons

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emblem boy posted...

My main question with how other people view protests in general is, will any percentage of looting make people dismiss the whole movement? What amount of negativity can be allowed? How much condemnation is needed? Is 7% too much?

If literally every BLM protest devolved into burned cars, burned premises, stabbed and shot people, and fourteen gang rapes, a pro-BLM politician saying "Yeah things could be better" is obviously not enough.

On the other side if a few of the protests had a few broken windows, upturned rubbish bins, and one burning car, and some anti-BLM politician would claim it's like civil war in the streets, that would clearly be ridiculous.

I think the issue is that some people aren't comfortable condemning the bad parts (aka the riots). Any good movement should distance itself from it's bad elements but instead the movement itself seems to be often embracing the rioting/looting.

https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2020/08/27/906642178/one-authors-argument-in-defense-of-looting

There is a large part that literally wants to abolish the police, not restructure or improve or supplement with more social services.

Endorsing rioting, removing law and order, are bad ideas, and they are horrible ideas if you have no replacement strategy.

Helping equality in the world is gonna be a lot easier if you disavow anybody looking to fundamentally destroy society itself.

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The biggest democratic names, including the presidential candidate has been condemning the violence since like June. Biden has said he's against defunding the police.
Why should people care what a random author says regarding looting?

joe40001 posted...

There is a large part that literally wants to abolish the police, not restructure or improve or supplement with more social services.

Outside of leftist twitter, I'm going to say this isn't true. Most people saying defunding mean a reform to more social services. Yes, their hashtag and framing of what they want is stupid and counter productive. But no, I wouldn't say most of the movement legitimately wants to abolish the police.
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Rebel_Patriot posted...

Yeah. In 3 months... five hundred and fucking forty... but no biggie....

these fuckin loons

Its 220, out of 2,400, and they classified things like toppling Confederate statues as violent

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Is this supposed to be an accomplishment or something?

If I go 93% of my workdays without punching a coworker or destroying company property, should I still be employed, yet alone celebrated?
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emblem boy posted...

The biggest democratic names, including the presidential candidate has been condemning the violence since like June. Biden has said he's against defunding the police.
Why should people care what a random author says regarding looting?

Outside of leftist twitter, I'm going to say this isn't true. Most people saying defunding mean a reform to more social services. Yes, their hashtag and framing of what they want is stupid and counter productive. But no, I wouldn't say most of the movement legitimately wants to abolish the police.

Not most, but an unfortunately non-trivially large amount. I'd guess like 5-10%

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Kazi1212 posted...

What if I said 93% of all cop interactions end nonviolently, would that make you feel better about cops?

I'm glad you finally understand why there are protests.

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Even 1 is bad

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joe40001 posted...

I'm hearing mixed things, so I don't know what to think.

I see shit like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcGXlHfEnZg

And definitely have my concerns. But if things like this are extremely rare that is some condolence.

I think most of us are on the same page with "the protests are largely good and with overall good goals, they should absolutely be allowed to continue. The destructive or violent actions/riots are bad and should stop, for many reasons including that they undermine the goals of the protests."

Damn she really thought they wouldnt bust her shit lmao

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ReturnOfThaJedi posted...

Yeah, but some people will say you are against BLM if you even point this out.

What sad is you can tell some of the rioting is from people who are just bored and annoyed they can't go to parties so they are taking part in this because it's kinda fun/exciting.

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BTW Riots are the direct response to a population's voice not being heard and continued to be oppressed.

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ZMythos posted...

BTW Riots are the direct response to a population's voice not being heard and continued to be oppressed.

Ok
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