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JBaLLEN66
09/19/20 12:29:58 PM
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I ain't talking to the Bernie Supporters that voted Hillary, I'm talking to the ones that didn't vote or voted Jill Stein and the crypto fascists that voted Trump lol

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MuayThai85
09/19/20 12:31:41 PM
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The DNC is for running Hilary of Bernie in the first place. Everything happening now can be blamed on the DNC.

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lilORANG
09/19/20 12:32:57 PM
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Yes. We killed RBG. How did you figure it out?
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JBaLLEN66
09/19/20 12:34:21 PM
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MuayThai85 posted...
The DNC is for running Hilary of Bernie in the first place. Everything happening now can be blamed on the DNC.

The DNC did nothing, Hillary won the primary

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Gamerguymass
09/19/20 12:35:20 PM
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MuayThai85 posted...
The DNC is for running Hilary of Bernie in the first place. Everything happening now can be blamed on the DNC.

Bernue was never going to beat Trump in the first place. So instead now we would have people blaming the DNC for running Bernie instead of Hillary.

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Timohtep
09/19/20 12:35:48 PM
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CommonStar
09/19/20 12:36:29 PM
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No, because the amount of Sanders supporters that you specifically mention are insignificant compared to the number of non-voters the DNC and Hillary could've swayed to vote for them by offering them something tangible.

But for some reason, it's much easier to blame voters/non-voters who have very little power than the actual people in power that can do shit about it.
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CruelBuffalo
09/19/20 12:37:38 PM
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Its not their fault but Susan Sarandon got what she wanted
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JBaLLEN66
09/19/20 12:38:18 PM
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CommonStar posted...
No, because the amount of Sanders supporters that you specifically mention are insignificant compared to the number of non-voters the DNC and Hillary could've swayed to vote for them by offering them something tangible.

But for some reason, it's much easier to blame voters/non-voters who have very little power than the actual people in power that can do shit about it.

how are you supposed to reason with a bernie supporter that goes and votes Trump though, that's the most illogical thing there is lmao

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1337toothbrush
09/19/20 12:38:23 PM
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No, the fault lies on dumbass democrats nominating the heap of garbage known as Hillary Clinton. They were telling everyone that Clinton was guaranteed to win.

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MuayThai85
09/19/20 12:38:37 PM
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Gamerguymass posted...
Bernue was never going to beat Trump in the first place. So instead now we would have people blaming the DNC for running Bernie instead of Hillary.
Bernie had a better chance of beating Trump than Hilary or Biden. The DNC had literally chosen the 2 worst candidates to get behind. Hilary is an evil shrew and everyone knows it. Biden is failing mentally.

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CruelBuffalo
09/19/20 12:39:45 PM
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MuayThai85 posted...
Bernie had a better chance of beating Trump than Hilary or Biden. The DNC had literally chosen the 2 worst candidates to get behind. Hilary is an evil shrew and everyone knows it. Biden is failing mentally.
DNC chose? Pretty sure Biden and Clinton won the most delegates via votes from people

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Kaiganeer
09/19/20 12:39:51 PM
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the thing about bernie bros is that they talk about some lofty shit but the time comes to actually make a difference, they either don't show up or throw a tantrum because they couldn't get exactly what they wanted

trump cultists are bad, but bernie bros are the spoiled white kids that have never experienced a singular second of adversity in their lives
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scar the 1
09/19/20 12:40:23 PM
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The fault lies with Hillary for being a crappy candidate who couldn't attract enough voters

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1337toothbrush
09/19/20 12:42:13 PM
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Crono99 posted...
Nader cost Gore New Hampshire as well. Gore lost by about 6k votes and Nader had 22k. Winning New Hampshire would've also given Gore the presidency even if he lost Florida
That's not how any of this works. Why not look at the millions of people who don't vote? Democrats could be doing a lot more to entice them. Hell, it falls on democrats to appeal to those who vote for third parties as well. Votes are not owed. Democrats have to convince people to vote for them, not shame them for not voting for their garbage candidate.

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JBaLLEN66
09/19/20 12:43:30 PM
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MuayThai85 posted...
Bernie had a better chance of beating Trump than Hilary or Biden. The DNC had literally chosen the 2 worst candidates to get behind. Hilary is an evil shrew and everyone knows it. Biden is failing mentally.

Bernie couldn't beat either of two, so what makes you think Bernie stood a chance against Trump. Wait, he didnt!

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Broseph_Stalin
09/19/20 12:44:46 PM
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MuayThai85 posted...
Bernie had a better chance of beating Trump than Hilary or Biden. The DNC had literally chosen the 2 worst candidates to get behind. Hilary is an evil shrew and everyone knows it. Biden is failing mentally.

I couldn't even be this clueless if I tried.
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iPhone_7
09/19/20 12:45:39 PM
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I blame the DNC, Hillary, & Bernie

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CruelBuffalo
09/19/20 12:45:54 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Arguing hypothetical elections is just fanfic for people who cant move on

very much agreed
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scar the 1
09/19/20 12:46:51 PM
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Crono99 posted...
I don't think Hillary was all that bad. She probably would've won against McCain in 2008. She was just unable to face the pressure from Trump's character assassination campaign.
Sadly for her she didn't run against McCain in 2008. She was too bad to win

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Shablagoo
09/19/20 12:46:54 PM
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JBaLLEN66 posted...
Bernie couldn't beat either of two, so what makes you think Bernie stood a chance against Trump. Wait, he didnt!

Dang, so youre saying a bunch of Clinton/Biden supporters would have voted Trump or not voted had Bernie won the nomination?

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ButteryMales
09/19/20 12:48:13 PM
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JBaLLEN66 posted...
Bernie couldn't beat either of two, so what makes you think Bernie stood a chance against Trump.
Bernie didn't try to kill me.
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Broseph_Stalin
09/19/20 12:48:38 PM
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Also for the millionth time, Bernie or busters didn't cost Hillary the election. They're not a large enough demographic to do such a thing.
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Southernfatman
09/19/20 12:49:01 PM
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Only right wingers trying to stir up division and Democrat fanboys who think they can do no wrong would blame Bernie supporters.

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ToPoPO
09/19/20 12:50:24 PM
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TC voted for Trump, it's his fault and he's trying to shift blame
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Gamerguymass
09/19/20 12:52:10 PM
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MuayThai85 posted...
Bernie had a better chance of beating Trump than Hilary or Biden. The DNC had literally chosen the 2 worst candidates to get behind. Hilary is an evil shrew and everyone knows it. Biden is failing mentally.

Why do progressives always think they are some vast group with tens of millions of voters? You people aren't. You are a tiny minority, one that liberals generally don't like, and while you always yammer on about change when it actually comes time to make that change you refuse if you don't get your exact way instead of learning to compromise like everyone else.

I suppose the plus side is you people will dissappear within a few years when Bernie finally kicks the bucket.

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Shablagoo
09/19/20 12:52:25 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
Also for the millionth time, Bernie or busters didn't cost Hillary the election. They're not a large enough demographic to do such a thing.

Yeah, only ~12% of Bernie supporters voted Trump. More than double that percentage of Clinton supporters (~25%) voted McCain in 08 and that didnt stop Obama.

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Shablagoo
09/19/20 12:54:00 PM
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Gamerguymass posted...
Why do progressives always think they are some vast group with tens of millions of voters? You people aren't. You are a tiny minority, one that liberals generally don't like, and while you always yammer on about change when it actually comes time to make that change you refuse if you don't get your exact way instead of learning to compromise like everyone else.

I suppose the plus side is you people will dissappear within a few years when Bernie finally kicks the bucket.

You must not be paying attention, progressive politicians have been winning elections left and right lately.

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JBaLLEN66
09/19/20 12:54:37 PM
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Shablagoo posted...
Dang, so youre saying a bunch of Clinton/Biden supporters would have voted Trump or not voted had Bernie won the nomination?

It's hard to say because a Bernie Sanders that appeals to Clinton/Biden voters isn't Bernie Sanders. We are assuming in 2008, Hillary just suddenly drops her campaign due to some random circumstance and Bernie is nominated. You have to realize 2008 Trump doesn't carry the baggage he does now, so he will have that optimism appeal to him. He will immediately label Bernie a communist and his hardcore supporters will embrace it more than fight it turning away any moderate democrats. Bernie Sanders failed to win the minority support in the primaries, so what makes you think he would win them against Trump despite even Hillary under-performing Obama's support with them. Trump would've most likely won by far.

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1337toothbrush
09/19/20 12:59:43 PM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
DNC chose? Pretty sure Biden and Clinton won the most delegates via votes from people
You're delusional if you think the party has no say in the process. The fact that a bunch of candidates magically dropped out and endorsed Biden right before Super Tuesday shows that the process is not impartial.

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1337toothbrush
09/19/20 1:01:07 PM
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JBaLLEN66 posted...
Bernie couldn't beat either of two, so what makes you think Bernie stood a chance against Trump. Wait, he didnt!
primaries =/= general

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Broseph_Stalin
09/19/20 1:01:13 PM
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Who is the party exactly
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Broseph_Stalin
09/19/20 1:01:52 PM
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1337toothbrush posted...
primaries =/= general

ah yes all those general voters who don't vote in the primaries because the Democratic party just isn't socialist enough
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monkmith
09/19/20 1:10:06 PM
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if you didn't vote in 2016 because "THE DNC STOLE THE PRESIDENCY FROM BERNIE", then yes.

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JBaLLEN66
09/19/20 1:10:14 PM
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1337toothbrush posted...
You're delusional if you think the party has no say in the process. The fact that a bunch of candidates magically dropped out and endorsed Biden right before Super Tuesday shows that the process is not impartial.

cause this is the first time in US presidential election history that this has happened watttt

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ButteryMales
09/19/20 1:18:11 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
But who did people vote for?
People voted for Trump.
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ButteryMales
09/19/20 1:21:01 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
So the issue is about getting people, rather than complaining that politicians politicked
Porque no los dos?
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