Current Events > Chicago cops respond to mayor's reform proposals by requesting 17% raise

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Antifar
09/25/20 6:56:21 PM
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https://chicago.suntimes.com/city-hall/2020/9/24/21455073/police-union-fraternal-order-contract-pay-raise-reform?
The Fraternal Order of Police is demanding a 17% pay raise over four years and half that amount for officers who are allowed to live outside the city in a financial-only deal that includes none of the 40 disciplinary reforms demanded by Mayor Lori Lightfoot.

Last week, Fraternal Order of Police President John Catanzara stormed out of negotiations after Mayor Lori Lightfoots team offered his members the same 10% pay raise over four years awarded to Chicago firefighters in exchange for higher health care contributions, but tacked on 17 pages including 40 disciplinary reforms.

Catanzara was so insulted by the citys offer and the conditions Lightfoot attached to it, he vowed to make a financial-only counter-offer and demand an up-or-down vote by the City Council.

Now, Catanzara has a new offer minus the demand for an up-or-down Council vote.

His new offer would give a choice to Chicago police officers who have long chafed at the citys residency rule: Take the full 17% with all but 3% retroactive and continue to live in the city. Or, accept half that amount and be free to move to the suburbs.

We want to be treated the same as the sergeants, Catanzara said, noting that union settled on the financial aspect before ending up in arbitration over disciplinary changes.

When do we get our life back? If they want to treat us like rented mules, well then, start paying us like rented mules. Were not gonna sit there and just be slaves.

Catanzara said the citys chief labor negotiator Jim Franczek told him he could not go to the City Council and argue for a financial-only package that did not also include disciplinary changes in response to the demand for police reform in Chicago and across the nation that followed the deaths of George Floyd and Breonna Taylor.

Which was baloney. He was too afraid to do it. ... They dont want to get yelled at by the aldermen. Oh, boo-hoo-hoo. They always try to take the easiest path thinking like theres no other options. Well, were not rolling over and playing dead anymore, he said.

The mayors office issued a statement in response to Catanzaras comments. It read, in part:

Since their very first meeting, Mayor Lightfoot has been emphatically clear to President Catanzara that any agreement with the union even a short-term agreement must include the Citys accountability and reform proposals. This administration has concluded collective bargaining agreements with every single union except the FOP, who have now gone 1,182 days without a contract for their members up through and including today. We are not going to be baited into negotiating in the press, nor will we entertain political stunts and false narratives. ... Following their proposal, the Citys negotiating team has reached out to the FOP for a date to continue negotiations and we have yet to hear back.

Michael Frisch, senior advisor and legal counsel to Lightfoot, fired off a letter to Catanzara after last weeks negotiating session, accusing the FOP president of sabotaging the talks with unreasonable financial demands and a tone-deaf response on police reform.

We remain committed to working together towards a fair contract, but will never retreat from the reforms that are essential to restoring legitimacy and accountability, Frisch wrote.

It is clear that you are totally misreading this moment, the demands of the consent decree and the needs of the public.

On Thursday, Catanzara said if Lightfoot wants to get rid of sworn affidavits and pave the way for anonymous complaints against police officers, she can seek those changes through arbitration.

You can get your discipline conversation after we get our money, he said.

She doesnt desperately need [reforms]. She desperately wants it because shes trying to capitulate to the loud voices.That doesnt necessarily mean its the majority voices because I can tell you the silent majority is getting louder and louder, Catanzara said.

People are sick and tired of this lawlessness. They think the police are doing a damn good job. Theyre not the criminals that the mayor and other politicians in this city want to try and make them out to be.

Last week, Lightfoots budget director told aldermen the Chicago Police Department has 847 sworn vacancies that could be reduced to chip away at a $1.25 billion shortfall in the citys 2021 budget.

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Doe
09/25/20 7:01:55 PM
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Police shouldn't have a fraternal order wtf

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LightningAce11
09/25/20 7:02:30 PM
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cops need to get paid less.
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Poop2
09/25/20 7:02:52 PM
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fucking Pig shit
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Medussa
09/25/20 7:03:22 PM
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"you're all fired"


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DeadBankerDream
09/25/20 7:03:47 PM
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Antifar posted...
and half that amount for officers who are allowed to live outside the city

Wat.
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Antifar
09/25/20 7:04:36 PM
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DeadBankerDream posted...


Wat.

Chicago has a residency requirement for its cops, not that that has improved them.
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Kolibri X
09/25/20 7:04:38 PM
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They deserve it after all they've been through. Being a Chicago cop. Yeesh. Can you imagine?

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SomeLikeItHoth
09/25/20 7:05:03 PM
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Sounds fair to me.

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DeadBankerDream
09/25/20 7:06:18 PM
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Antifar posted...


Chicago has a residency requirement for its cops, not that that has improved them.

Okay, but why would cops living outside the city get less of a raise?
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iPhone_7
09/25/20 7:06:39 PM
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How about those police unions go **** themselves instead

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The23rdMagus
09/25/20 7:07:05 PM
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No.

Negotiation over.

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Antifar
09/25/20 7:07:24 PM
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DeadBankerDream posted...


Okay, but why would cops living outside the city get less of a raise?

The idea being, I believe, that it's a compromise, incentivizing living in the city rather than requiring it
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Bio1590
09/25/20 7:09:20 PM
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DeadBankerDream posted...


Okay, but why would cops living outside the city get less of a raise?

Because it's cheaper
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Poop2
09/25/20 7:09:31 PM
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Have they stop the illegal rendition sites that they set up throughout the city and literally illegal by not only are federal laws but international laws as well
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CableZL
09/25/20 7:10:54 PM
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Medussa
09/25/20 7:15:20 PM
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typically, raises happen when you do a good job...

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COVxy
09/25/20 7:38:42 PM
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Thanks, I hate it.

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Cobalt_Wasps
09/25/20 7:40:24 PM
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FTP

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KiwiTerraRizing
09/25/20 7:42:00 PM
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Antifar posted...
The idea being, I believe, that it's a compromise, incentivizing living in the city rather than requiring it

This, the issue is cops in big cities tend to live in all white suburbs and have no involvement with the communities they police.

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Poop2
09/25/20 7:43:11 PM
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KiwiTerraRizing posted...
This, the issue is cops in big cities tend to live in all white suburbs and have no involvement with the communities they police.
Does the New York require the police to live in the bureaus the police? Every big city should have the same policy
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uwnim
09/25/20 7:44:37 PM
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In all honesty, the best thing to have possibly done when Catanzara presented that counter-offer would have been to laugh. He's being ridiculous.

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Antifar
09/25/20 7:45:09 PM
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Poop2 posted...

Does the New York require the police to live in the bureaus the police? Every big city should have the same policy

NYC does. There's no real evidence it makes them less violent.
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Cornmuffins
09/25/20 7:45:51 PM
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A raise for doing a shitty job. Sounds great.
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KiwiTerraRizing
09/25/20 7:53:59 PM
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Antifar posted...
NYC does. There's no real evidence it makes them less violent.

Only civilian employees are required to live in the city, uniformed officers are not.

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