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toyota
09/26/20 3:23:48 AM
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It benefits them too. Why are they so against it?
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au_gold
09/26/20 3:26:48 AM
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Because the free market.

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bknight
09/26/20 3:27:46 AM
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Probably same reason why poor white people hate Obamacare but love the Affordable Care Act.
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dcn2424
09/27/20 10:49:11 AM
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toyota posted...
Why are they so against it?

Because they are not very bright.
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Southernfatman
09/27/20 10:50:05 AM
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Because they've been tricked by rich people into screwing themselves over and the fact that people they don't like getting the same benefits enrages them. Basically, they're stupid and bigoted.

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monkmith
09/27/20 10:50:35 AM
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hatred of anything they consider weakness.

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ZevLoveDOOM
09/27/20 10:51:24 AM
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cause you might be a commie or something, i dunno...
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g980
09/27/20 10:53:01 AM
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It would be a great exercise for CE to actually try to understand opposition stances in good faith every so often

Presumably they are concerned about the cost, quality of care/wait times, and have a principled aversion to nationalizing any industry

None of those arguments particularly convince me not to support medicare for all, but i can at least address those objections directly rather than drop smarmy one liners
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Unknown361
09/27/20 10:59:21 AM
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A lot of Trump supporters are low educated so they tend to be ignorant about a lot of things.

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Cornhuskers
09/27/20 11:00:30 AM
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bknight posted...
Probably same reason why poor white people hate Obamacare but love the Affordable Care Act.

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Foppe
09/27/20 11:01:06 AM
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Helping is socialism, socialism is communism, communism is bad.

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ThunderTrain
09/27/20 11:01:57 AM
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They think it would cost so much money and yet it would actually reduce costs. Oh by the way here's hundreds of billions of dollars to the military to build things that will never be used.

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monkmith
09/27/20 11:08:41 AM
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g980 posted...
It would be a great exercise for CE to actually try to understand opposition stances in good faith every so often

Presumably they are concerned about the cost, quality of care/wait times, and have a principled aversion to nationalizing any industry

None of those arguments particularly convince me not to support medicare for all, but i can at least address those objections directly rather than drop smarmy one liners
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there's their "reasons against".

http://www.cc.com/video-clips/mo2m0f/key-and-peele-heart-transplant

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KiwiTerraRizing
09/27/20 11:13:21 AM
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Their opinions are whatever their masters tell them. They dont think, they take what they are told to think as truth and work backwards to justify it.

Notice how the Democrats are having ideological battles between the centrists and the progressives? Republicans have no divisions because they have no morals or standards, whatever the party says everyone goes along with even if it changes the next day.

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hockeybub89
09/27/20 11:18:52 AM
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Because people love to pretend they are better off than they really are. Part of that is denying others handouts and blaming everything on the poor. "Fuck me because fuck you"

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harley2280
09/27/20 11:21:37 AM
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Because a ton of them are already on Medicare or medicaid, and they're the fuck you I got mine generation.
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hockeybub89
09/27/20 11:23:39 AM
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harley2280 posted...
Because a ton of them are already on Medicare or medicaid, and they're the fuck you I got mine generation.
I laugh on the inside when a MAGA cap gets prescriptions filled through Medicare

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Unknown5uspect
09/27/20 11:24:58 AM
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g980 posted...
It would be a great exercise for CE to actually try to understand opposition stances in good faith every so often
It would be great if chuds could argue anything in good faith. Their opposition to everything is because "fuck the libs."

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Annihilated
09/27/20 11:34:20 AM
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g980 posted...
It would be a great exercise for CE to actually try to understand opposition stances in good faith every so often

You do realize they do this intentionally because that's the only way they can get anyone to agree with them.
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Cheater87
09/27/20 11:38:20 AM
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Because they think it is socialism.

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g980
09/27/20 12:25:27 PM
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About the reaction i expected, but i gotta try every so often
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Damn_Underscore
09/27/20 12:37:58 PM
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I think people are massively overlooking the public option idea because that is how you get to universal health care in America. Start with a public option, and in a few decades or so there will be enough support for true universal health care. Non-single payer universal health care seems much more realistic than single payer in a culture like America's. Americans don't even understand health care that well, a lot of them literally think that Obamacare is socialism. They just aren't educated about it.

Going for single payer right away AND promising to ban private health insurance is how you get nothing done. At least you get to complain about how stupid Americans are, though.

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harley2280
09/27/20 3:17:44 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
I think people are massively overlooking the public option idea because that is how you get to universal health care in America. Start with a public option, and in a few decades or so there will be enough support for true universal health care. Non-single payer universal health care seems much more realistic than single payer in a culture like America's. Americans don't even understand health care that well, a lot of them literally think that Obamacare is socialism. They just aren't educated about it.

Going for single payer right away AND promising to ban private health insurance is how you get nothing done. At least you get to complain about how stupid Americans are, though.

The public and private option is literally how Medicare is currently handled so there's already a framework to build off of. Its also what the ACA originally aimed to create.
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Pitlord_Special
09/27/20 3:22:42 PM
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Democrats want it so it has to be bad.

Blows my mind how other developed nations have already solved this problem but we can't even follow an established example.

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mach25687
09/27/20 3:24:34 PM
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Cornhuskers posted...
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