Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 326: Quarantine Vogue

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Jakyl25
10/03/20 12:34:54 PM
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AKA Burn After Walter Reeding
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LordoftheMorons
10/03/20 12:45:46 PM
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Here is the completely damning Trump covid timeline (unless we believe the White House that two separate doctors referred to Thursday night as 72 hours ago and 48 hours ago, respectively):

https://twitter.com/dkthomp/status/1312428988212678656?s=21

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Peace___Frog
10/03/20 12:47:01 PM
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If only this administration had any historical goodwill from being transparent in the past, huh

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NFUN
10/03/20 12:52:38 PM
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ahahahahhaha christie has it too?? excellent

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Dancedreamer
10/03/20 1:33:52 PM
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I wouldn't be surprised if the Trump team hoped Biden would get it, and then they would've held off and said that Biden gave Trump the virus.

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UshiromiyaEva
10/03/20 1:43:40 PM
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So rather than being too late (or being intentionally too late) to get tested, it's now looking like Trump went out of his way to avoid the test knowing he would test positive because he didn't want to appear like a coward and back out.

Wonderful.

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Jakyl25
10/03/20 2:17:41 PM
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Corrik posted...
Isn't it pretty much confirmed he went to the debate with it?


Yes, but theres no evidence he went KNOWING he had it

I see no reason for a doctor to admit he knew on Wednesday morning, which is bad enough, if even thats a lie and he knew on Tuesday
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KamikazePotato
10/03/20 2:52:11 PM
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Trump going to a debate with COVID is absolutely on brand

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Suprak the Stud
10/03/20 3:00:05 PM
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Trump going to the debate with COVID is borderline assault.

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Grimlyn
10/03/20 3:04:50 PM
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https://twitter.com/NBC12/status/1312265647326457857

Virginia bans cops from raping detainees

only 34 states to go!

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HeroDelTiempo17
10/03/20 3:10:08 PM
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carnal knowledge, huh

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Not_an_Owl
10/03/20 3:21:55 PM
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Jakyl25 posted...
AKA Burn After Walter Reeding
This would have been a better topic title tbqh

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ChaosTonyV4
10/03/20 3:39:31 PM
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https://twitter.com/cnnbrk/status/1312188613015203842?s=21

haha, incredible

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ChaosTonyV4
10/03/20 4:05:01 PM
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https://twitter.com/davebautista/status/1311942527390494720?s=21

Dave Bautista rules

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kevwaffles
10/03/20 4:05:49 PM
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Grimlyn posted...
https://twitter.com/NBC12/status/1312265647326457857

Virginia bans cops from raping detainees

only 34 states to go!
I'm pretty sure no state allows cops to rape detainees, but if you don't make sexual contact of any type just as harsh a punishment it's basically impossible to prove.

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Inviso
10/03/20 4:12:15 PM
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...
https://twitter.com/davebautista/status/1311942527390494720?s=21

Dave Bautista rules

Unfortunately, Democrats are held to a much higher standard than Republicans ever are. If they're too conciliatory and nice, they're wusses. But when they go on the attack and wish him ill, they're attacked as being too mean and impolite in a way no one gives a shit about when the GOP does it.

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Jakyl25
10/03/20 4:54:17 PM
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HeroDelTiempo17
10/03/20 5:17:56 PM
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Who could have possibly predicted that Trump being soft on white supremacist groups would embolden them?

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FFDragon
10/03/20 5:33:53 PM
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https://twitter.com/joncoopertweets/status/1312479314831523840?s=20

uhhhh

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Paratroopa1
10/03/20 5:36:37 PM
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FFDragon posted...
https://twitter.com/joncoopertweets/status/1312479314831523840?s=20

uhhhh
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Jakyl25
10/03/20 5:39:06 PM
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The thing is, once he showed any symptoms at all, that was pretty much a given, that we wouldnt know if hell pull through until next week
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colliding
10/03/20 5:43:28 PM
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FFDragon posted...
https://twitter.com/joncoopertweets/status/1312479314831523840?s=20

uhhhh

yeah this is why they have English 101, so that people know not to get their news from random tweets

trump's going to be just fine, I promise you.
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Jakyl25
10/03/20 5:43:43 PM
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Jakyl25
10/03/20 5:45:05 PM
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colliding posted...


yeah this is why they have English 101, so that people know not to get their news from random tweets

trump's going to be just fine, I promise you.


I agree not to take the tweet as gospel, but why do you believe that?
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Runemistress
10/03/20 5:45:18 PM
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Inviso posted...
Unfortunately, Democrats are held to a much higher standard than Republicans ever are. If they're too conciliatory and nice, they're wusses. But when they go on the attack and wish him ill, they're attacked as being too mean and impolite in a way no one gives a shit about when the GOP does it.

While this is true, there's certainly more that the current Democratic Presidential Candidate could've said. He could've taken a swing, while still being classy about it.

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colliding
10/03/20 5:51:27 PM
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Jakyl25 posted...
I agree not to take the tweet as gospel, but why do you believe that?

1) Most people who get Covid recover just fine.

2) Presidential health care is literally the best in the world. There's a reason we have HW living to be 94 and Jimmy Carter building houses when he's 96.

edit: I know Trump is obese and generally unfit, but he has doctors on standby with IV cocktails and super secret nanomachines that most people don't.
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StealThisSheen
10/03/20 5:52:43 PM
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colliding posted...
1) Most people who get Covid recover just fine.

I mean this feels like it's ignoring a hell of a lot of details and also belittling the seriousness of it at the same time.

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xp1337
10/03/20 5:53:49 PM
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Biden going high was the right move in the moment, I think.

But given that the Trump campaign has already said they don't intend to the same when asked (and lied that Biden was attacking them still) and have, in fact, already attacked Biden directly repeatedly since he pulled negative ads I think he can go back on offense.

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UshiromiyaEva
10/03/20 5:53:54 PM
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Neither Carter nor Bush were obese mules who refused typical treatments.

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Jakyl25
10/03/20 5:55:52 PM
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colliding posted...


1) Most people who get Covid recover just fine.

2) Presidential health care is literally the best in the world. There's a reason we have HW living to be 94 and Jimmy Carter building houses when he's 96.

edit: I know Trump is obese and generally unfit, but he has doctors on standby with IV cocktails and super secret nanomachines that most people don't.


Its really not that uncommon for people to live into their 90s if they can afford even decent health care. Thats not special
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Jakyl25
10/03/20 5:57:20 PM
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Also DO most people who get COVID recover fine? Especially if you filter out people who are completely asymptomatic
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colliding
10/03/20 5:57:55 PM
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StealThisSheen posted...
I mean this feels like it's ignoring a hell of a lot of details and also belittling the seriousness of it at the same time.

I'm not saying it isn't dangerous. It definitely kills lots of people and you don't want to get it and be a spreader. But if you're just looking at Covid from an individual lethality perspective, if you contract it you're probably going to have a mild case.

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colliding
10/03/20 6:01:38 PM
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Jakyl25 posted...
Also DO most people who get COVID recover fine? Especially if you filter out people who are completely asymptomatic

Why would you filter those people out? If you're asking "do people who get hospitalized for Covid recover fine" then that's a different question. I agree that it is unclear if most people who are hospitalized for it recover completely. But Trump being hospitalized is just a precaution; I don't think he has shown serious symptoms. It's not like Trump is in a hospital bed and on a ventilator like a normal person. The presidential suite at Walter Reed is basically like a hotel room.
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Paratroopa1
10/03/20 6:04:53 PM
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Do most 70+ year olds who require hospitalization recover fine?
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StealThisSheen
10/03/20 6:05:40 PM
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colliding posted...
But Trump being hospitalized is just a precaution; I don't think he has shown serious symptoms.

The presidents vitals over the last 24 hours were very concerning and the next 48 hours will be critical in terms of his care, Mr. Meadows told reporters outside Walter Reed National Military Medical Center, where the president was flown on Friday evening and will remain for at least a few days. Were still not on a clear path to a full recovery.

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colliding
10/03/20 6:08:16 PM
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Paratroopa1 posted...
Do most 70+ year olds who require hospitalization recover fine?

I don't believe Trump "required" hospitalization. I think they moved him there to be safe.

This is where dude's staying.

https://twitter.com/richard680news/status/1312413225061961728?s=19&fbclid=IwAR1Ps4vmbqhygfSTaHKlDVlu5J0yr-MMHnkfeSURdvr7x1VCgG6uZwVBJzk
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StealThisSheen
10/03/20 6:09:55 PM
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I'm confused why you think Trump would allow himself to be moved there "just to be safe" given how stupidly important image is to him.

Like, you seem to be just looking at the images of the suite and glossing over that the first thing it says it includes is an intensive care unit.

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Paratroopa1
10/03/20 6:12:03 PM
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colliding posted...
I don't believe Trump "required" hospitalization. I think they moved him there to be safe.

This is where dude's staying.

https://twitter.com/richard680news/status/1312413225061961728?s=19&fbclid=IwAR1Ps4vmbqhygfSTaHKlDVlu5J0yr-MMHnkfeSURdvr7x1VCgG6uZwVBJzk
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colliding
10/03/20 6:14:19 PM
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Feel free to worry about the President if you want, but this doesn't change the fact that he's going to receive much better care than anyone else on the planet. Just because one doctor says his figures were "concerning" and that the next "48 hours will be critical" doesn't mean Trump has a serious case, especially when another doctor says he's doing fine. He's not on intensive care. He's not on oxygen.
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LordoftheMorons
10/03/20 6:14:55 PM
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Another piece of evidence that makes me heavily doubt that two doctors misspoke is that they hid Hope Hicks positive test and we only found out because a reporter broke the news. It sure seems like they wouldnt have ever told us if everyones cases were mild.

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StealThisSheen
10/03/20 6:15:45 PM
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Basically, we have the White House press staff going "HE'S FINE HONEST HAHA NOTHING TO SEE HERE"

And then we have the Chief of Staff going "Shit's serious."

Obviously chances are still better that he won't die, but completely dismissing it with a condescending post and saying stuff like "Look how nice his room is" and "Most people recover from Covid" seems silly.

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Paratroopa1
10/03/20 6:16:35 PM
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StealThisSheen posted...
Basically, we have the White House press staff going "HE'S FINE HONEST HAHA NOTHING TO SEE HERE"

And then we have the Chief of Staff going "Shit's serious."

Obviously chances are still better that he won't die, but completely dismissing it with a condescending post and saying stuff like "Look how nice his room is" and "Most people recover from Covid" seems silly.
Agreed, except I have less nice words than silly
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LordoftheMorons
10/03/20 6:16:58 PM
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colliding posted...
Feel free to worry about the President if you want, but this doesn't change the fact that he's going to receive much better care than anyone else on the planet. Just because one doctor says his figures were "concerning" and that the next "48 hours will be critical" doesn't mean Trump has a serious case, especially when another doctor says he's doing fine. He's not on intensive care. He's not on oxygen.
We dont have a cure for covid so getting better care doesnt buy you much. You get access to all of the experimental treatments, but since those havent been proven safe and effective they could even make things worse.

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Paratroopa1
10/03/20 6:19:05 PM
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StealThisSheen
10/03/20 6:20:42 PM
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colliding posted...
Feel free to worry about the President if you want, but this doesn't change the fact that he's going to receive much better care than anyone else on the planet. Just because one doctor says his figures were "concerning" and that the next "48 hours will be critical" doesn't mean Trump has a serious case, especially when another doctor says he's doing fine. He's not on intensive care. He's not on oxygen.

I doubt any of us are worrying about this President.

We just think it's dumb that you basically called FFD stupid because "Well I think he's fine because look at these pictures of his room, and honestly Covid's nbd people recover from it all the time!"

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red13n
10/03/20 6:21:55 PM
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From what I've been reading on the experimental treatment Trump received here, little chance of it being harmful to him. Whether it has any benefits is definitely up for debate.

But there is no cure, we've gotten better at treating the symptoms of covid, which does prolong life, but if your body doesn't fight it off there is nothing science has to save you right now.

I definitely find it funny that now that the situation is serious Trump isn't turning to Hydroxychloroquine.

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colliding
10/03/20 6:22:15 PM
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StealThisSheen posted...
Basically, we have the White House press staff going "HE'S FINE HONEST HAHA NOTHING TO SEE HERE"

And then we have the Chief of Staff going "Shit's serious."

Obviously chances are still better that he won't die, but completely dismissing it with a condescending post and saying stuff like "Look how nice his room is" and "Most people recover from Covid" seems silly.

First, I didn't mean for my post to be condescending to anyone or the disease itself. So I'm sorry if it came across that way.

Secondly, I'm just saying that my read on the situation is that Trump got Covid and since he's the President of the United States, his team convinced him to go to Walter Reed just to be cautious, on the off chance it turns into a serious case. Nothing has been reported so far that leads me to believe it's serious. If he was any other person beside the President, he wouldn't be going to a hospital.

Thirdly, the reason we think differently is probably based on how we interpret the Chief of Staff's words: I just hear a doctor doing what a doctor should do: taking the situation seriously and saying the right things. I don't see his comments as an indication that Trump himself is seriously sick, just again, someone preaching caution.

Finally, I posted the images of the Walter Reed room just to show that people shouldn't hear "Trump's been hospitalized" and think that he's actually in an Emergency Room situation or something.
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LordoftheMorons
10/03/20 6:23:34 PM
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Sooo this memo supposedly from Dr. Conley doesnt make sense:

https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1312450472511303682?s=21

He was the one who said 72 hours, but another doctor was the one who said that Trump started the experimental treatment 48 hours ago

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colliding
10/03/20 6:24:18 PM
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StealThisSheen posted...
I doubt any of us are worrying about this President.

We just think it's dumb that you basically called FFD stupid because "Well I think he's fine because look at these pictures of his room, and honestly Covid's nbd people recover from it all the time!"

Again, sorry if it came across like I was calling FFD stupid. I was calling the tweet stupid! It provides no evidence or sources and basically is just some dude saying "I heard someone say Trump might DIE in THREE DAYS!"
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StealThisSheen
10/03/20 6:24:39 PM
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colliding posted...
Thirdly, the reason we think differently is probably based on how we interpret the Chief of Staff's words: I just hear a doctor doing what a doctor should do: taking the situation seriously and saying the right things.

It's not a doctor. It's Mark Meadows. He's the White House Chief of Staff. He has no reason to say things are worse than they are.

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