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JimmyFraska 10/14/20 4:03:41 PM #51:	Malcrasternus posted... Hell, just look at this current presidency. People are talking about literal fascism in the party, then without a shred of self awareness want to vote in someone looking for actual disarmament. By the standards of most of the users in this topic, this is fascist speak and shouldn't be tolerated. How dare you critique both sides. Choose one or the other! Damn_Underscore posted... I don't think it makes sense to not vote for Biden because of this one issue when you agree with him on many other issues, especially if you think he would be the perfect candidate besides this one issue. A lot of people consider that their biggest issue, so I wouldn't blame someone for that stance if so. <cite>JimmyFraska posted [p:945852923] in I keep up ... [t:79040165]...</cite> <quote>Malcrasternus posted... </cite> <quote>Hell, just look at this current presidency. People are talking about literal fascism in the party, then without a shred of self awareness want to vote in someone looking for actual disarmament.</quote>By the standards of most of the users in this topic, this is fascist speak and shouldn't be tolerated. How dare you critique both sides. Choose one or the other! Damn_Underscore posted... </cite> <quote>I don't think it makes sense to not vote for Biden because of this one issue when you agree with him on many other issues, especially if you think he would be the perfect candidate besides this one issue.</quote>A lot of people consider that their biggest issue, so I wouldn't blame someone for that stance if so. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthVader95 10/14/20 4:04:19 PM #52:	Enlightened centrists are such as bad as trump supporters. <cite>DarthVader95 posted [p:945852945] in I keep up ... [t:79040165]...</cite> <quote>Enlightened centrists are such as bad as trump supporters. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JimmyFraska 10/14/20 4:05:22 PM #53:	DarthVader95 posted... Enlightened centrists are such as bad as trump supporters. I think the same. I'd rather they jump out of the middle and just not participate. Don't vote 3rd party, just don't vote! <cite>JimmyFraska posted [p:945852984] in I keep up ... [t:79040165]...</cite> <quote>DarthVader95 posted... </cite> <quote>Enlightened centrists are such as bad as trump supporters.</quote>I think the same. I'd rather they jump out of the middle and just not participate. Don't vote 3rd party, just don't vote! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 10/14/20 4:05:26 PM #54:	Well grats on staying neutral in the most important election in this nations history to decide if we stay a democracy or turn into an empire <cite>Zikten posted [p:945852987] in I keep up ... [t:79040165]...</cite> <quote>Well grats on staying neutral in the most important election in this nations history to decide if we stay a democracy or turn into an empire</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JimmyFraska 10/14/20 4:07:17 PM #55:	Zikten posted... Well grats on staying neutral in the most important election in this nations history to decide if we stay a democracy or turn into an empire @Zikten It is crazy, where I get tempted to jump in. I mean, after all, the media is saying Trump is the only hope and if the Democrats win they'll turn this into an evil socialists empire.... ..the conservative media I mean. Oh wait, are you talking about the liberal media that says the reverse? Which one should I believe! (I can't be neutral if I'm against both of your sides. I'm not neutral, get that out of your head) <cite>JimmyFraska posted [p:945853076] in I keep up ... [t:79040165]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite> <quote>Well grats on staying neutral in the most important election in this nations history to decide if we stay a democracy or turn into an empire</quote>@Zikten It is crazy, where I get tempted to jump in. I mean, after all, the media is saying Trump is the only hope and if the Democrats win they'll turn this into an evil socialists empire.... ..the conservative media I mean. Oh wait, are you talking about the liberal media that says the reverse? Which one should I believe! (I can't be neutral if I'm against both of your sides. I'm not neutral, get that out of your head) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Malcrasternus 10/14/20 4:07:58 PM #56:	Damn_Underscore posted... Thankfully there's the 2nd Amendment and a whole bunch of Republicans (and probably conservative Democrats as well) that won't let actual forced disarmament get anywhere. I don't think it makes sense to not vote for Biden because of this one issue when you agree with him on many other issues, especially if you think he would be the perfect candidate besides this one issue. Not saying I'm not voting, it's just that my state votes blue no matter who it is. I'm still going to vote for local reps. --- 4/15/1951 - 3/18/2014 <cite>Malcrasternus posted [p:945853105] in I keep up ... [t:79040165]...</cite> <quote>Damn_Underscore posted... </cite> <quote>Thankfully there's the 2nd Amendment and a whole bunch of Republicans (and probably conservative Democrats as well) that won't let actual forced disarmament get anywhere. I don't think it makes sense to not vote for Biden because of this one issue when you agree with him on many other issues, especially if you think he would be the perfect candidate besides this one issue.</quote> Not saying I'm not voting, it's just that my state votes blue no matter who it is. I'm still going to vote for local reps. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 10/14/20 4:11:13 PM #57:	I'm saying Donald Trump might end democracy in America. He's already done damage. Biden is not going to make himself an Emperor but Trump might <cite>Zikten posted [p:945853234] in I keep up ... [t:79040165]...</cite> <quote>I'm saying Donald Trump might end democracy in America. He's already done damage. Biden is not going to make himself an Emperor but Trump might</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phynaster 10/14/20 4:15:00 PM #58:	I dont care about politics so both sides are equally bad and I wont do anything to reduce harm to my fellow human beings is such a disgustingly privileged position to take. --- Rebel <cite>Phynaster posted [p:945853373] in I keep up ... [t:79040165]...</cite> <quote>I dont care about politics so both sides are equally bad and I wont do anything to reduce harm to my fellow human beings is such a disgustingly privileged position to take. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthVader95 10/14/20 4:15:35 PM #59:	Phynaster posted... I dont care about politics so both sides are equally bad and I wont do anything to reduce harm to my fellow human beings is such a disgustingly privileged position to take. Tru <cite>DarthVader95 posted [p:945853397] in I keep up ... [t:79040165]...</cite> <quote>Phynaster posted... </cite> <quote>I dont care about politics so both sides are equally bad and I wont do anything to reduce harm to my fellow human beings is such a disgustingly privileged position to take.</quote>Tru </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mc Poottie 10/14/20 4:21:08 PM #60:	JimmyFraska posted... If I vote Trump, the left hates me. If I vote Biden, the right hates me. At this point, I would rather be hated by both sides. You do realize that you can vote without disclosing who or what you voted for...right? --- Go Pack! <cite>Mc Poottie posted [p:945853613] in I keep up ... [t:79040165]...</cite> <quote>JimmyFraska posted... </cite> <quote>If I vote Trump, the left hates me. If I vote Biden, the right hates me. At this point, I would rather be hated by both sides.</quote> You do realize that you can vote without disclosing who or what you voted for...right? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
harley2280 10/14/20 4:23:15 PM #61:	This is as bad as the "I was just following orders" defense. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.6.0_B3 <cite>harley2280 posted [p:945853700] in I keep up ... [t:79040165]...</cite> <quote>This is as bad as the "I was just following orders" defense.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hornezz 10/14/20 4:25:24 PM #62:	--- In dentibus anticis frustum magnum spinaciae habes. <cite>Hornezz posted [p:945853782] in I keep up ... [t:79040165]...</cite> <quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JimmyFraska 10/14/20 4:25:30 PM #63:	Zikten posted... I'm saying Donald Trump might end democracy in America. He's already done damage. Biden is not going to make himself an Emperor but Trump might According to the Trump supporters, all the previous administrations had done a ton of damage and were about to lock down on tyranny, so those supporters voted in Trump. Is that what I believe? No. But it sounds an awful lot like what you're saying, in reverse. If you're only response is "Well that's just stupid do research!" Guess what? THat's exactly what they would tell me. <cite>JimmyFraska posted [p:945853788] in I keep up ... [t:79040165]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite> <quote>I'm saying Donald Trump might end democracy in America. He's already done damage. Biden is not going to make himself an Emperor but Trump might</quote>According to the Trump supporters, all the previous administrations had done a ton of damage and were about to lock down on tyranny, so those supporters voted in Trump. Is that what I believe? No. But it sounds an awful lot like what you're saying, in reverse. If you're only response is "Well that's just stupid do research!" Guess what? THat's exactly what they would tell me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JimmyFraska 10/14/20 4:27:39 PM #64:	Phynaster posted... I dont care about politics so both sides are equally bad and I wont do anything to reduce harm to my fellow human beings is such a disgustingly privileged position to take. @Phynaster Trump supporters say the best way to reduce harm is to vote for Trump. That's why they did it in the first place. Their whole thing was "The country is about to go down the drain and instill tyranny, Trump is the last chance." Are they right? I suspect not, and I doubt you think so either. But if your argument is exactly the same as theirs, how do I know to believe you either? And I do care about politics. It's the most interesting thing to follow. It's why I made this topic, it's why I have this stance. <cite>JimmyFraska posted [p:945853889] in I keep up ... [t:79040165]...</cite> <quote>Phynaster posted... </cite> <quote>I dont care about politics so both sides are equally bad and I wont do anything to reduce harm to my fellow human beings is such a disgustingly privileged position to take.</quote>@Phynaster Trump supporters say the best way to reduce harm is to vote for Trump. That's why they did it in the first place. Their whole thing was "The country is about to go down the drain and instill tyranny, Trump is the last chance." Are they right? I suspect not, and I doubt you think so either. But if your argument is exactly the same as theirs, how do I know to believe you either? And I do care about politics. It's the most interesting thing to follow. It's why I made this topic, it's why I have this stance. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bluezero 10/14/20 4:59:02 PM #65:	JimmyFraska posted... According to the Trump supporters, all the previous administrations had done a ton of damage and were about to lock down on tyranny, so those supporters voted in Trump. Is that what I believe? No. But it sounds an awful lot like what you're saying, in reverse. If you're only response is "Well that's just stupid do research!" Guess what? THat's exactly what they would tell me. Trump is actively limiting resources to or not supporting Democratic-run states He attempted to shut down the post office so that people couldn't vote by mail (while himself voting by mail) He won't commit to a peaceful transfer of power, should he lose the election He's rushing through a supreme court justice so he can have a conservative majority before the election, so that... He can claim fraud if he does lose the election, which would be decided by the supreme court He's claimed his first 4 year term doesn't count, so he thinks he should be in office another 8, 12, 16 years If none of this scares you or brings our democracy into question, I almost have to think you haven't thought it through. Is this what a President is supposed to do? Only take care of Republicans? Or is the job really meant to take care of the whole country? --- https://imgur.com/fEXUeBi <cite>bluezero posted [p:945855106] in I keep up ... [t:79040165]...</cite> <quote>JimmyFraska posted... </cite> <quote>According to the Trump supporters, all the previous administrations had done a ton of damage and were about to lock down on tyranny, so those supporters voted in Trump. Is that what I believe? No. But it sounds an awful lot like what you're saying, in reverse. If you're only response is "Well that's just stupid do research!" Guess what? THat's exactly what they would tell me.</quote>Trump is actively limiting resources to or not supporting Democratic-run states He attempted to shut down the post office so that people couldn't vote by mail (while himself voting by mail) He won't commit to a peaceful transfer of power, should he lose the election He's rushing through a supreme court justice so he can have a conservative majority before the election, so that... He can claim fraud if he does lose the election, which would be decided by the supreme court He's claimed his first 4 year term doesn't count, so he thinks he should be in office another 8, 12, 16 years If none of this scares you or brings our democracy into question, I almost have to think you haven't thought it through. Is this what a President is supposed to do? Only take care of Republicans? Or is the job really meant to take care of the whole country? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JimmyFraska 10/14/20 5:29:21 PM #66:	bluezero posted... Trump is actively limiting resources to or not supporting Democratic-run states He attempted to shut down the post office so that people couldn't vote by mail (while himself voting by mail) He won't commit to a peaceful transfer of power, should he lose the election He's rushing through a supreme court justice so he can have a conservative majority before the election, so that... He can claim fraud if he does lose the election, which would be decided by the supreme court He's claimed his first 4 year term doesn't count, so he thinks he should be in office another 8, 12, 16 years If none of this scares you or brings our democracy into question, I almost have to think you haven't thought it through. Is this what a President is supposed to do? Only take care of Republicans? Or is the job really meant to take care of the whole country? It absolutely scares me, and our democracy was already in question in my eyes. Here's a list of bad things Joe Biden did while in office, and other racist and scandalous events. Looking at your list, and this list, I'm very concerned https://www.pastemagazine.com/politics/joe-biden/the-10-worst-things-joe-biden-has-done-in-his-poli/ <cite>JimmyFraska posted [p:945856268] in I keep up ... [t:79040165]...</cite> <quote>bluezero posted... </cite> <quote>Trump is actively limiting resources to or not supporting Democratic-run states He attempted to shut down the post office so that people couldn't vote by mail (while himself voting by mail) He won't commit to a peaceful transfer of power, should he lose the election He's rushing through a supreme court justice so he can have a conservative majority before the election, so that... He can claim fraud if he does lose the election, which would be decided by the supreme court He's claimed his first 4 year term doesn't count, so he thinks he should be in office another 8, 12, 16 years If none of this scares you or brings our democracy into question, I almost have to think you haven't thought it through. Is this what a President is supposed to do? Only take care of Republicans? Or is the job really meant to take care of the whole country?</quote>It absolutely scares me, and our democracy was already in question in my eyes. Here's a list of bad things Joe Biden did while in office, and other racist and scandalous events. Looking at your list, and this list, I'm very concerned https://www.pastemagazine.com/politics/joe-biden/the-10-worst-things-joe-biden-has-done-in-his-poli/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BurmesePenguin 10/14/20 5:30:53 PM #67:	Irony posted... That's a dumb take Possibly the dumbest one. And obviously racist. <cite>BurmesePenguin posted [p:945856326] in I keep up ... [t:79040165]...</cite> <quote>Irony posted... </cite> <quote>That's a dumb take</quote>Possibly the dumbest one. And obviously racist. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RchHomieQuanChi 10/14/20 5:32:04 PM #68:	JimmyFraska posted... It absolutely scares me, and our democracy was already in question in my eyes. Here's a list of bad things Joe Biden did while in office, and other racist and scandalous events. Looking at your list, and this list, I'm very concerned https://www.pastemagazine.com/politics/joe-biden/the-10-worst-things-joe-biden-has-done-in-his-poli/ Everything Biden has done, Trump has done or wants to do, but ten times worse. --- I have nothing else to say <cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted [p:945856364] in I keep up ... [t:79040165]...</cite> <quote>JimmyFraska posted... </cite> <quote>It absolutely scares me, and our democracy was already in question in my eyes. Here's a list of bad things Joe Biden did while in office, and other racist and scandalous events. Looking at your list, and this list, I'm very concerned https://www.pastemagazine.com/politics/joe-biden/the-10-worst-things-joe-biden-has-done-in-his-poli/</quote> Everything Biden has done, Trump has done or wants to do, but ten times worse. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JimmyFraska 10/14/20 6:02:23 PM #69:	RchHomieQuanChi posted... Everything Biden has done, Trump has done or wants to do, but ten times worse. I'm not voting for Trump, I don't support him. Did you read the list bluezero showed me? BurmesePenguin posted... Possibly the dumbest one. And obviously racist. As I said, I understand I will be blamed by both sides. I accept I will be blamed. It doesn't make sense that I'm being blamed, but it is what it is. <cite>JimmyFraska posted [p:945857455] in I keep up ... [t:79040165]...</cite> <quote>RchHomieQuanChi posted... </cite> <quote>Everything Biden has done, Trump has done or wants to do, but ten times worse.</quote>I'm not voting for Trump, I don't support him. Did you read the list bluezero showed me? BurmesePenguin posted... </cite> <quote>Possibly the dumbest one. And obviously racist.</quote>As I said, I understand I will be blamed by both sides. I accept I will be blamed. It doesn't make sense that I'm being blamed, but it is what it is. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phynaster 10/14/20 6:20:51 PM #70:	This is the problem with thinking all opinions are equally valid. --- Rebel <cite>Phynaster posted [p:945858052] in I keep up ... [t:79040165]...</cite> <quote>This is the problem with thinking all opinions are equally valid. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smackems 10/14/20 6:25:28 PM #71:	Tc are you getting the hate you wanted --- Common sense is stupid - some dude <cite>Smackems posted [p:945858226] in I keep up ... [t:79040165]...</cite> <quote>Tc are you getting the hate you wanted </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 10/14/20 6:26:09 PM #72:	Is this that enlightened centrism I hear so much about --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:945858251] in I keep up ... [t:79040165]...</cite> <quote>Is this that enlightened centrism I hear so much about </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JimmyFraska 10/14/20 6:26:40 PM #73:	Phynaster posted... This is the problem with thinking all opinions are equally valid. Not all are. And the opinion that says, "The other people are wrong cause they're on the other side." are not. That's what the conservatives say about you, and I don't see you saying any differently about them. <cite>JimmyFraska posted [p:945858277] in I keep up ... [t:79040165]...</cite> <quote>Phynaster posted... </cite> <quote>This is the problem with thinking all opinions are equally valid.</quote>Not all are. And the opinion that says, "The other people are wrong cause they're on the other side." are not. That's what the conservatives say about you, and I don't see you saying any differently about them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JimmyFraska 10/14/20 6:32:42 PM #74:	MC_BatCommander posted... Is this that enlightened centrism I hear so much about I guess this is CE's new trend cause they keep saying "Enlightened Centrist" like six times and I've never even heard that before I made this topic. A centrist wants to be neutral t avoid responsibility and criticism, I don't want to be neutral. I don't want hate exactly, as I'm not doing anything worthy of hate, but I don't want to be neutral. Smackems posted... Tc are you getting the hate you wanted I don't want hate. I do want Republicans to know I'm not on their side. However that means little, they'll still call me a baby killer for not voting Trump. They get more upset with me than they do Democrats <cite>JimmyFraska posted [p:945858502] in I keep up ... [t:79040165]...</cite> <quote>MC_BatCommander posted... </cite> <quote>Is this that enlightened centrism I hear so much about</quote>I guess this is CE's new trend cause they keep saying "Enlightened Centrist" like six times and I've never even heard that before I made this topic. A centrist wants to be neutral t avoid responsibility and criticism, I don't want to be neutral. I don't want hate exactly, as I'm not doing anything worthy of hate, but I don't want to be neutral. Smackems posted... </cite> <quote>Tc are you getting the hate you wanted</quote>I don't want hate. I do want Republicans to know I'm not on their side. However that means little, they'll still call me a baby killer for not voting Trump. They get more upset with me than they do Democrats </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 10/14/20 7:14:56 PM #75:	JimmyFraska posted... I guess this is CE's new trend cause they keep saying "Enlightened Centrist" like six times and I've never even heard that before I made this topic. The very idea of being dispassionate about politics is nigh blasphemous to CE. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:945859993] in I keep up ... [t:79040165]...</cite> <quote>JimmyFraska posted... </cite> <quote>I guess this is CE's new trend cause they keep saying "Enlightened Centrist" like six times and I've never even heard that before I made this topic.</quote>The very idea of being dispassionate about politics is nigh blasphemous to CE. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EffectAndCause 10/14/20 7:16:07 PM #76:	Donald Trump thanks you for your non-vote. --- "WWE decisions make me root for AEW, AEW fans make me root for WWE." - EffectAndCause, 2019 https://imgur.com/wMshiEN <cite>EffectAndCause posted [p:945860022] in I keep up ... [t:79040165]...</cite> <quote>Donald Trump thanks you for your non-vote. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JimmyFraska 10/14/20 7:16:51 PM #77:	EffectAndCause posted... Donald Trump thanks you for your non-vote. He didn't though. He said I really need to get out there and vote for him to not let Biden win. <cite>JimmyFraska posted [p:945860048] in I keep up ... [t:79040165]...</cite> <quote>EffectAndCause posted... </cite> <quote>Donald Trump thanks you for your non-vote.</quote>He didn't though. He said I really need to get out there and vote for him to not let Biden win. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Malcrasternus 10/14/20 7:32:18 PM #78:	EffectAndCause posted... Donald Trump thanks you for your non-vote. Unless you're in a blue state. Then thank you for your bravery. --- 4/15/1951 - 3/18/2014 <cite>Malcrasternus posted [p:945860625] in I keep up ... [t:79040165]...</cite> <quote>EffectAndCause posted... </cite> <quote>Donald Trump thanks you for your non-vote.</quote> Unless you're in a blue state. Then thank you for your bravery. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Delirious_Beard 10/14/20 7:35:40 PM #79:	guys why are you taking such obvious bait --- https://imgur.com/hLHUnOI You act like I don't know my own way home <cite>Delirious_Beard posted [p:945860747] in I keep up ... [t:79040165]...</cite> <quote>guys why are you taking such obvious bait </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JimmyFraska 10/14/20 7:36:54 PM #80:	Delirious_Beard posted... guys why are you taking such obvious bait It's cause they are offended that I'm not helping them. Not helping their opposition isn't good enough, I must actively help them. It's like when George W said "You're either with us, or against us." <cite>JimmyFraska posted [p:945860788] in I keep up ... [t:79040165]...</cite> <quote>Delirious_Beard posted... </cite> <quote>guys why are you taking such obvious bait</quote>It's cause they are offended that I'm not helping them. Not helping their opposition isn't good enough, I must actively help them. It's like when George W said "You're either with us, or against us." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BaphometFlux 10/16/20 1:00:44 AM #81:	Lol this is one of the stupidest topics Ive ever read here and thats saying something :p --- "Shisaanputa" <cite>BaphometFlux posted [p:945911287] in I keep up ... [t:79040165]...</cite> <quote>Lol this is one of the stupidest topics Ive ever read here and thats saying something :p </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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