Current Events > Without COVID and the Floyd protests does Trump win reelection?

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Doom_Art
10/15/20 2:21:45 PM
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I'm gonna go against the grain here and say he probably wouldn't though he probably wouldn't have imploded quite as spectacularly

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gamer167
10/15/20 2:23:50 PM
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Considering how badly Trump botched both responses Id say he had a much better chance at winning before.

Biden also would have no one to pander too.
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Frogles
10/15/20 2:26:00 PM
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without covid they'd have to come up with another nonsense story like the russia crap. it would all depend on how well it sticks.

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SomeLikeItHoth
10/15/20 2:27:04 PM
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He will win regardless.

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CableZL
10/15/20 2:27:48 PM
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Frogles posted...
without covid they'd have to come up with another nonsense story like the russia crap. it would all depend on how well it sticks.

I'm curious as to why people still refer the Russia story as fake news, crap, etc. when the Republican senate intelligence report confirmed the Trump campaign did have ties to Russia.

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Giant_Aspirin
10/15/20 2:27:55 PM
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SomeLikeItHoth posted...
He will win regardless.

wanna bet accounts on that?

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UnfairRepresent
10/15/20 2:29:38 PM
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Sort of

his base wouldn't be any different

but I think covid has made more people politically active and willing to vote due to having nothing else to do

And more votes by default is bad for the right wing who only win based on the fact hardly anyone voted
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Theon_Greyjoy
10/15/20 2:31:21 PM
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Probably. Before COVID, every time there was a poll on this board, people thought Trump was going to win.

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Zikten
10/15/20 2:32:02 PM
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Maybe. Apparently usually sitting presidents get reelected. 1 termers are rare in history

It was the protests and the virus that made me start thinking he might lose. So yea. Without that he could have won
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nativengine
10/15/20 2:32:07 PM
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Hes still gonna win

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PatrickMahomes
10/15/20 2:37:59 PM
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without covid, his re-election was a lock.

i dont think floyd impacted anything one way or the other tbh; the same crowds were still going to vote the way they were with or without floyd and the events that transpired

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I Like Toast
10/15/20 2:52:15 PM
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Without covid, it's 2016 again. But this time the candidate has a penis. So it comes down to do you believe hillary being a women cost her more votes then it gained her. Given trump won, i'm inclined to believe it hurt her more. I think trump would get a little less "troll" votes, but without covid there wouldn't be the rallying cry to actually vote. There wouldn't be the need and push for mail in votes which helps combat an extent of voter apathy by reducing the effort (i voted by mail for the first time despite the fact i could have the previous 2 elections).

So, Biden should have won either way, likely would have polled better (i believe he was pre covid?), he probably wouldn't repeat Hillary's mistakes of not going to Wisconsin to campaign, and Joe at least seems to be smart enough to not drag down to trump with his, "Would you just shut up man?". He has the same problems as hillary otherwise. A status quo candidate with no real message offering no major reform.

PatrickMahomes posted...


i dont think floyd impacted anything one way or the other tbh; the same crowds were still going to vote the way they were with or without floyd and the events that transpired

and biden's response is to give the police even more money because if they keep hiring the same people who train cops to treat every situation like it's life or death and be ready to kill, surely they will stop killing innocent minorities

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s0nicfan
10/15/20 2:54:00 PM
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Without both of those he would have a significantly better chance. He would be sitting on the best economy and unemployment numbers the country has ever seen. Whether you believe his policies have anything to do with that or not, that is an incredibly good position for incumbent president to be in for an election.

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Poop2
10/15/20 2:59:25 PM
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he had a better chance prior.
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sktgamer_13dude
10/15/20 3:00:41 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...


wanna bet accounts on that?

Hothlin will just welch.
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JBaLLEN66
10/15/20 3:02:45 PM
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He was behind Biden before the these

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SomeLikeItHoth
10/15/20 3:05:09 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
wanna bet accounts on that?
Sure.

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Giant_Aspirin
10/15/20 3:07:28 PM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
Hothlin will just welch.

has he welched before? i dont follow that stuff much

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RchHomieQuanChi
10/15/20 3:11:39 PM
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Sadly, I think he could have won re-election.

The main strategy the Democrats have been using against Trump is his poor response to Coronavirus, which they obviously wouldn't be able to use in this hypothetical. Outside of that, the Democrats didn't really have much to offer to undecided/apathetic voters and I doubt they would have gone a different route from Biden.

But this pandemic and everything that followed has pretty much given every non-Republican American a common enemy to fight against. It sounds fucked up to say this, but in a roundabout way, the pandemic might have been necessary to get Trump out of office.

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JBaLLEN66
10/15/20 3:16:15 PM
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Sadly, I think he could have won re-election.

The main strategy the Democrats have been using against Trump is his poor response to Coronavirus, which they obviously wouldn't be able to use in this hypothetical. Outside of that, the Democrats didn't really have much to offer to undecided/apathetic voters and I doubt they would have gone a different route from Biden.

But this pandemic and everything that followed has pretty much given every non-Republican American a common enemy to fight against. It sounds fucked up to say this, but in a roundabout way, the pandemic might have been necessary to get Trump out of office.

lmao the botched coronavirus isnt the only thing the democrats have on trump

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SmidgeIsntBack
10/15/20 3:19:15 PM
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Absolutely.

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RchHomieQuanChi
10/15/20 3:23:23 PM
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JBaLLEN66 posted...
lmao the botched coronavirus isnt the only thing the democrats have on trump

It's the only thing they could pin on him that wouldn't just be swept under the rug in a week though

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